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So true. Jesus is showing us the way, not only in teachings but how He lived. Follow Him, He will lead us on the narrow path and back to reconciliation Rev 22:14
Revelation 22:14 "Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city."

1 John 3:22 "And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment."

God just wants to spend time with His children on the day He set aside sanctified to spend holy time with us.
Imagine, believing with sincerity, that a perfect Father wants 1/7th of our time with Him. Only 1/7th!
 
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you argued that the ceremonial sabbath observation law wasn't "added because of transgression" per Galatians 3.

i pointed out that the scripture has no record of it being commanded until Exodus 16 and Exodus 16 takes place because of transgression.
This was what you said:
the sabbath was added in Exodus 16 after they transgressed the word of faith in Exodus 14.

And through scripture I showed you that the Sabbath started at Creation.
Exo 20:11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Sin is the transgression of God's law 1 John 3:4 an both Jesus and Paul point to the Ten Commandments to define sin Romans 7:7 Mat 5:19-30. Where there is no law there is no transgression Romans 4:15 therefore God's Ten Commandments started in heaven because Lucifer sinned in heaven 1 John 3:8 which is what separated him from God. The same thing that separated Adam and Eve from God, they sinned i.e. broke God's law.

So back to my question. Are you suggesting Adam and Eve fell the day after they were created in the image of God and God hallowed the Sabbath day as we are told from Creation Exo 20:11 but Adam and Eve rebelled and said no thanks I am not going to spend time with you on your holy Sabbath day, I am going to do my own thing instead after you made the Sabbath for us to spend time with us and so we can be sanctified as man can't sanctify themselves only God can. Eze 20:12. Is this what you're suggesting man fell on day 1 because of their rebellion against the Sabbath? So God hallowed the Sabbath, man did their own thing despite the Sabbath being made for them Mark 2:27
 
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the rest described in Hebrews 4 is Christ, not ceremonial weekly cessation of activity.

just as under the Law sin is never ultimately dealt with, but the priest must continually make offering year after year, there is no rest from endless ceremony.
but as Christ offered Himself once for all, in Him also is true rest, as the passage says, He spoke. of another day calling it "Today"
Do you mind if I bring context into this passage? It's often misquoted as a way to get out of Sabbath-keeping but the warning in this passage is actually the opposite.

Lets start with Hebrews 3 as it sets up the background for Hebrews 4

7 Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says:

“Today, if you will hear His voice,
8 Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion,
In the day of trial in the wilderness,

9 Where your fathers tested Me, tried Me,
And saw My works forty years.
10 Therefore I was angry with that generation,
And said, ‘They always go astray in their heart,
And they have not known My ways.’
11 So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest.’ ”

12 Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God; 13 but [b]exhort one another daily, while it is called “Today,” lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end, 15 while it is said:

“Today, if you will hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.”

16 For who, having heard, rebelled? Indeed, was it not all who came out of Egypt, led by Moses? 17 Now with whom was He angry forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose corpses fell in the wilderness? 18 And to whom did He swear that they would not enter His rest, but to those who did not obey? 19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

Please note the rest in these verses is not the seventh day Sabbath. It is this rest:

katapausis: rest
Original Word: κατάπαυσις, εως, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: katapausis
Phonetic Spelling: (kat-ap'-ow-sis)
Definition: rest
Usage: (in the Old Testament of the rest attained by the settlement in Canaan), resting, rest, dwelling, habitation.

You have to be familiar with the story of Moses and what the Israelite's disobeyed due to their unbelief/disobedience.

Ezekiel tells us what the Israelites disobeyed in the wilderness and why some who did never entered into their Promised rest

Ezekiel 20:12 Moreover I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between them and Me, that they might know that I am the Lord who sanctifies them. 13 Yet the house of Israel rebelled against Me in the wilderness; they did not walk in My statutes; they despised My judgments, ‘which, if a man does, he shall live by them’; and they greatly defiled My Sabbaths. Then I said I would pour out My fury on them in the wilderness, to consume them.

Ezekiel 20:20
20 hallow My Sabbaths, and they will be a sign between Me and you, that you may know that I am the Lord your God.’ 21 “Notwithstanding, the children rebelled against Me; they did not walk in My statutes, and were not careful to observe My judgments, ‘which, if a man does, he shall live by them’; but they profaned My Sabbaths. Then I said I would pour out My fury on them and fulfill My anger against them in the wilderness.

Also keep in mind Moses reviewed the Ten Commandments which includes the Sabbath commandment 40 years after they were given by God and right before entering into the Promises Land (their rest) and told them to diligently keep, so it would be a dangerous mistake to think we can follow their same example of disobedience Hebrews 4:11 to receive our rest in Christ Heb 4:10

So with this background it should make understanding Hebrews 4 easier. This whole passage is about how we are not to follow their same example of disobedience Heb 4:6 Heb 4:11 and why the Sabbath-rest (keeping) remains (not changed) for God's people. Hebrews 4:9 NIV and the rest in this verse literally translates into Sabbath-keeping

sabbatismos: a sabbath rest
Original Word: σαββατισμός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
Definition: a sabbath rest
Usage: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.

Hebrews 4:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.

Those who enter into His rest ALSO cease from his works as God did from His.

When does God cease from His works?

This very passage tells us.....

Hebrews 4:4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”; Which is a direct quote from the 4th commandments Exo 20:8-11 and Creation Gen 2:1-3

Those who enter His rest also rest on the seventh day (Sabbath keeping) just as God did Exo 20:11. Man is made in the image of God to follow Him.

Sabbath keeping never ended for the people of God, but remains which is why we are not to follow the same path of disobedience of the Israelites. Heb 4:11 In God's rest there is no rebellion to Him or His commandments and the Sabbath is a commandments of God that remains for His people.

Oh, that you had heeded My commandments!
Then your peace would have been like a river,
And your righteousness like the waves of the sea.
Isa 48:18

I pray this helps.
 
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Revelation 22:14 "Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city."
Actually Rev 22:15 answers what commandments Rev 22:14 is referring to. Which is why context is always so important.

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 But outside are dogs and sorcerers (Breaking commandment #1 Exodus 20:3) and sexually immoral (breaking commandment #7 Exodus 20:14) and murderers (breaking commandment #6 Exodus 20:13) and idolaters (breaking commandment #2 Exodus 20:4-6), and whoever loves and practices a lie (breaking # 9 Exodus 20:16 or any of them 1 John 2:4).


1 John 3:22 "And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment."

Imagine, believing with sincerity, that a perfect Father wants 1/7th of our time with Him. Only 1/7th!
God wants us to worship Him daily, but that does not take away our moral obligation to keep the Sabbath commandment. God gives us 6 days to do all our work and labors and only asks for one day back to spend the entire day with Him through rest and worship. If every day was the Sabbath we would all starve as no work would get done. There is a deeper meaning behind the Sabbath, just like there was a deeper meaning behind the tree of knowledge. It's about our allegiance to God obeying Him the way He asks verse on our terms.

Let me add in some context to 1 John 3:22

John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”

Here John makes the clear distinction that believing in Jesus is related to our obedience to Him. Those who choose to do evil (sin) does not come to the light because their deeds are evil, but we are called to come to the truth (light) so our deeds can be exposed. This is what the Ten Commandments does- it shows us our sin just like a mirror. When we bury our sins (stay in darkness) we don't confess or forsake them and therefore God can't give us His mercy and grace and give us the power to help overcome. Proverbs 28:13 Those who seek God want to come to the Truth so Jesus can help us overcome our sins. Our salvation is from sin Mat 1:21 not in sin.

Jesus in His own Words tells us that it's more than just believing...

Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord [believer],’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
 

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PSS For what it is worth I also believe that the Sabbath was never changed to Sunday, and I would like to point out that I am not trying to enter the larger discussion you are having since I am not qualified to do so; I am only asking questions about the arguments concerning the sign of Jonas. Remember also that although this was a specific sign to the unbelieving scribes and Pharisees, they spoke the ancient language and not modern English just as Jesus did.
The Sabbath always pointed to the rest we find in God. In creation, rest was found from labor. In the re-creation, rest is found from the work of or burden of the law. Rest is found in this way in Christ. He is our Sabbath.
 

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Actually Rev 22:15 answers what commandments Rev 22:14 is referring to. Which is why context is always so important.

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 But outside are dogs and sorcerers (Breaking commandment #1 Exodus 20:3) and sexually immoral (breaking commandment #7 Exodus 20:14) and murderers (breaking commandment #6 Exodus 20:13) and idolaters (breaking commandment #2 Exodus 20:4-6), and whoever loves and practices a lie (breaking # 9 Exodus 20:16 or any of them 1 John 2:4).




God wants us to worship Him daily, but that does not take away our moral obligation to keep the Sabbath commandment. God gives us 6 days to do all our work and labors and only asks for one day back to spend the entire day with Him through rest and worship. If every day was the Sabbath we would all starve as no work would get done. There is a deeper meaning behind the Sabbath, just like there was a deeper meaning behind the tree of knowledge. It's about our allegiance to God obeying Him the way He asks verse on our terms.

Let me add in some context to 1 John 3:22

John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”

Here John makes the clear distinction that believing in Jesus is related to our obedience to Him. Those who choose to do evil (sin) does not come to the light because their deeds are evil, but we are called to come to the truth (light) so our deeds can be exposed. This is what the Ten Commandments does- it shows us our sin just like a mirror. When we bury our sins (stay in darkness) we don't confess or forsake them and therefore God can't give us His mercy and grace and give us the power to help overcome. Proverbs 28:13 Those who seek God want to come to the Truth so Jesus can help us overcome our sins. Our salvation is from sin Mat 1:21 not in sin.

Jesus in His own Words tells us that it's more than just believing...

Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord [believer],’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

You're not being honest with yourself or with us.
 
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The Sabbath always pointed to the rest we find in God. In creation, rest was found from labor. In the re-creation, rest is found from the work of or burden of the law. Rest is found in this way in Christ. He is our Sabbath.
I have heard this teaching before and know its popular but I have yet to find one scripture in God's Word that says He is the Sabbath.

God said the Sabbath is a commandment Exodus 20:8-11 Exo 20:6 which means it's not a suggestion or optional. Jesus is the Creator, not the creation i.e. Sabbath day or commandment. Jesus did not give Himself a commandment to give us rest, the commandment is for us to keep the seventh day holy Exo 2:8 resting from works and labors Exo 20:10 so we can spend time with God doing His ways on His holy day Isa 58:13 God wants to spend time with us and set aside the seventh day to do so to bless and sanctify as we can't sanctify ourselves Eze 20:12 we should always obey God the way He asks, this scenario time and time again in scripture played out people obeying Him the way they wanted verses on God's terms, seems like a bad idea to follow their same mistakes.
 
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You're not being honest with yourself or with us.
Feel free to make a biblical argument against the scriptures I posted. I am open, but when we pull the context out of the scriptures, and insert our own ideas, seems like we are placing trust in us over God's Word. God's Word will interpret itself if we allow it to, it doesn't need our help, but it does require lots of prayerful study.
 

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Feel free to make a biblical argument against the scriptures I posted. I am open, but when we pull the context out of the scriptures, and insert our own ideas, seems like we are placing trust in us over God's Word. God's Word will interpret itself if we allow it to, it doesn't need our help, but it does require lots of prayerful study.
If you ask, there is help for what ails you.
 

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I have heard this teaching before and know its popular but I have yet to find one scripture in God's Word that says He is the Sabbath.

God said the Sabbath is a commandment Exodus 20:8-11 Exo 20:6 which means it's not a suggestion or optional. Jesus is the Creator, not the creation i.e. Sabbath day or commandment. Jesus did not give Himself a commandment to give us rest, the commandment is for us to keep the seventh day holy Exo 2:8 resting from works and labors Exo 20:10 so we can spend time with God doing His ways on His holy day Isa 58:13 God wants to spend time with us and set aside the seventh day to do so to bless and sanctify as we can't sanctify ourselves Eze 20:12 we should always obey God the way He asks, this scenario time and time again in scripture played out people obeying Him the way they wanted verses on God's terms, seems like a bad idea to follow their same mistakes.
Read Hebrews 4:1-11. Hopefully, you to will enter into His rest offered in Matthew 11:28-30.
 

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I have heard this teaching before and know its popular but I have yet to find one scripture in God's Word that says He is the Sabbath.

God said the Sabbath is a commandment Exodus 20:8-11 Exo 20:6 which means it's not a suggestion or optional. Jesus is the Creator, not the creation i.e. Sabbath day or commandment. Jesus did not give Himself a commandment to give us rest, the commandment is for us to keep the seventh day holy Exo 2:8 resting from works and labors Exo 20:10 so we can spend time with God doing His ways on His holy day Isa 58:13 God wants to spend time with us and set aside the seventh day to do so to bless and sanctify as we can't sanctify ourselves Eze 20:12 we should always obey God the way He asks, this scenario time and time again in scripture played out people obeying Him the way they wanted verses on God's terms, seems like a bad idea to follow their same mistakes.
Something that might also be helpful is to read what is recorded before the commandments are given the first time and the second time. Something has changed. See if you can figure out what.
 

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I have prayerfully read this passage many times. Please show me where in this passage says Jesus is our Sabbath.
Our rest is found in Him. His work is what created the rest. The offer to enter His rest is in Matthew 11:28.
Did you check the difference between the Sabbath commandments in Exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5? It's important.
If you are wanting to find a verse that says Jesus is our Sabbath rest you won't find it. But if you want to understand the significance of the Sabbath and how it was a shadow of things to come, you will have to do a little bit of searching out a matter. Something about the glory of kings and all.
 
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Our rest is found in Him. His work is what created the rest. The offer to enter His rest is in Matthew 11:28.
Did you check the difference between the Sabbath commandments in Exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5? It's important.
If you are wanting to find a verse that says Jesus is our Sabbath rest you won't find it. But if you want to understand the significance of the Sabbath and how it was a shadow of things to come, you will have to do a little bit of searching out a matter. Something about the glory of kings and all.
I would not make a doctrine out of something you can't find in scripture and especially when its something in direct conflict with one of His commandments. We enter into Christ rest through faith, and those who enter in His rest ALSO cease from their works as God did from His, on the seventh day. Hebrews 4:10, Hebrews 4:4 In Christ rest there is no rebellion to Him or His commandments, just peace Isa 48:18

In Exodus 20 it is God speaking here. Not only did He speak His holy commandments He wrote them with His own finger. No greater authority than this! In Deut 5 it is 40 years later before entering into Canaan and Moses repeated the Ten Commandments. He paraphrased some, but all basic principles are there.

The weekly Sabbath is not a shadow of anything it points us back to Creation before the fall of man "Remember" as it started at Creation Exo 20:11 Gen 2:1-3 and will continue on for eternity Isa 66:22-23 thus saith the Lord. If one does not want to keep the Sabbath now, would they really be happy in heaven where every Sabbath the saints will come before the Lord to worship. Sin separated us from God Isa 59:2 but once sin and sinners are no more, we will be back in His presence for worship just like in the garden. Now we worship Him in His spirit on His holy Sabbath day, but soon it will be before the Lord!
 

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Our rest is found in Him. His work is what created the rest. The offer to enter His rest is in Matthew 11:28.
Did you check the difference between the Sabbath commandments in Exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5? It's important.
If you are wanting to find a verse that says Jesus is our Sabbath rest you won't find it. But if you want to understand the significance of the Sabbath and how it was a shadow of things to come, you will have to do a little bit of searching out a matter. Something about the glory of kings and all.
Never argue with a person who says they already "prayerfully considered" your point but still disagrees with you. It's like people who use "God showed me"... their position is immovable. It's self-insulation from scrutiny. This is especially true with legalists: in their rationale they did the work required of them (prayed) and now may ignore all dissenters. It's okay to, like Paul, wish that they would go all the way and castrate themselves with the garbage they preach.

Aaron56

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Never argue with a person who says they already "prayerfully considered" your point but still disagrees with you. It's like people who use "God showed me"... their position is immovable. It's self-insulation from scrutiny. This is especially true with legalists: in their rationale they did the work required of them (prayed) and now may ignore all dissenters. It's okay to, like Paul, wish that they would go all the way and castrate themselves with the garbage they preach.

Aaron56

Oh, I forgot: Merry Christmas!
I am assuming you are referring to me, so for the record I never said I prayerfully considered their point; I said I have prayerfully read Hebrews 4 many times. I am open to other views of scripture, but I do not accept others' opinions over scripture. I asked for this poster to provide scripture to prove their position and they admitted there wasn't any. I will stick with God's Word it is to be the light to our path. Psa 119:105
 

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I would not make a doctrine out of something you can't find in scripture and especially when its something in direct conflict with one of His commandments. We enter into Christ rest through faith, and those who enter in His rest ALSO cease from their works as God did from His, on the seventh day. Hebrews 4:10, Hebrews 4:4 In Christ rest there is no rebellion to Him or His commandments, just peace Isa 48:18

In Exodus 20 it is God speaking here. Not only did He speak His holy commandments He wrote them with His own finger. No greater authority than this! In Deut 5 it is 40 years later before entering into Canaan and Moses repeated the Ten Commandments. He paraphrased some, but all basic principles are there.

The weekly Sabbath is not a shadow of anything it points us back to Creation before the fall of man "Remember" as it started at Creation Exo 20:11 Gen 2:1-3 and will continue on for eternity Isa 66:22-23 thus saith the Lord. If one does not want to keep the Sabbath now, would they really be happy in heaven where every Sabbath the saints will come before the Lord to worship. Sin separated us from God Isa 59:2 but once sin and sinners are no more, we will be back in His presence for worship just like in the garden. Now we worship Him in His spirit on His holy Sabbath day, but soon it will be before the Lord!
Everything is about Christ in the Bible...John 5:39. You can try to find life in something else, but life is only found in Him. Welcome to the new covenant.
In Exodus 20, the Sabbath is related to God's rest in creation...verse 11. In Deuteronomy 5, the Sabbath is linked to deliverance or salvation...verse 15.
You can get your doctrine any way you choose. The full counsel of God is best. Perhaps you will prayerfully consider the difference between the reasons God gave for keeping the Sabbath before entering the desert and the promise land. Maybe even why the difference.
 

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Never argue with a person who says they already "prayerfully considered" your point but still disagrees with you. It's like people who use "God showed me"... their position is immovable. It's self-insulation from scrutiny. This is especially true with legalists: in their rationale they did the work required of them (prayed) and now may ignore all dissenters. It's okay to, like Paul, wish that they would go all the way and castrate themselves with the garbage they preach.

Aaron56

Oh, I forgot: Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas, brother. While I agree with your sentiments, others may share our beliefs and not really understand why. So sometimes it's good to share to help others in the faith. Also, you are actually one of the best teachers on this site and I have profited more than a few times by your thorough examination of a subject. So don't grow weary in your well doing. Your labor is not in vain.
 
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Everything is about Christ in the Bible...John 5:39. You can try to find life in something else, but life is only found in Him. Welcome to the new covenant.
In Exodus 20, the Sabbath is related to God's rest in creation...verse 11. In Deuteronomy 5, the Sabbath is linked to deliverance or salvation...verse 15.
You can get your doctrine any way you choose. The full counsel of God is best. Perhaps you will prayerfully consider the difference between the reasons God gave for keeping the Sabbath before entering the desert and the promise land. Maybe even why the difference.
Agreed, no one is arguing about Christ not being in the bible.

The Sabbath is a commandment of God, just like thou shalt not worship other gods, thou shalt not murder or commit adultery etc.. Jesus quotes from the Ten Commandments often teaching us not to break or teach others to break the least of these commandments. Mat 5:19-30 breaking one is like breaking them all. James 2:10-12. All the Ten Commandments do is point out sin Romans 3:20 Rom 7:7 Mat 5:19-30 and our need for Jesus so we can go to Him when we sin (break God's law) for repentance and sanctification. If we cover our sins, we cannot prosper as we will not confess or forsake our sins therefore can't receive His mercy and grace. Proverbs 28:13

I do find it a bit odd you think the Sabbath is linked to deliverance or salvation but yet do not turn to the way God explicitly tells us how to keep the Sabbath commandment, in the same verse!
 

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We enter into Christ rest through faith, and those who enter in His rest ALSO cease from their works as God did from His, on the seventh day.
That is NOT at all what that verse is teaching. Here is that verse say: For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

That verse says nothing about the seventh day, but it does say something about people (especially Jews) expecting THEIR OWN WORKS to save them. The entire passage is about faith vs unbelief. And this is supported by what Christ said to the Jews who wanted to know what works they must do in order to be saved. Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

I'll tell you what. You can go on pushing your Sabbatarian nonsense while twisting verses, but genuine Christians worship on the Lord's Day. So you are in fact mocking Christ who established the Lord's Day.