Who said Abraham was a "Jew"? Abraham was a Hebrew, descended from Seth and Eber.
The evil rapture and the evil evangelists. 👍
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better still who said Ismael was a Muslim,
Not me.
I always believes Ismael was a Jewish.
Now I have spent 3 weeks researching crap
no you haven't watched the videos if you had you would of noticed they are related to an ideology of someone who believes in pre trib rapture John Hague
In the second video John Hague claimed God used Hitler to bring the Jews back home
So what do you think of this pre trib belief now
I posted the videos for many reasons
Now I have to escape back to my truck away from the blind
again, you resort to insults. The video I saw did have clips of John Hagee and others speaking of supporting Israel and God's chosen people. If not agreeing with you is blind, Yep, I am. we're done.
You @CS1 said that the videos where not about the rapture.
And you sir have chose to say this.
And you sir have gone on for thee pages making me out to be a Muslim or not a Christian.
You sir have a problem.
I posted the video because at the end of video 2 it's shows how the pre trib rapture belief has contributed to there being no Palestinian Christian left in Bethlehem.
From 60 percent to 2 percent .
Now thats why I posted the video.
So no your insults have been noted good day sir
And you sir have chose to say this.
And you sir have gone on for thee pages making me out to be a Muslim or not a Christian.
You sir have a problem.
I posted the video because at the end of video 2 it's shows how the pre trib rapture belief has contributed to there being no Palestinian Christian left in Bethlehem.
From 60 percent to 2 percent .
Now thats why I posted the video.
So no your insults have been noted good day sir
You seem to have the bad habit of seeking out your info from all the wrong places. Look to the Word, my friend.
Like the little old lady in the second viddy says, "Listen to what God says, not what man says." Let Him lift you from your pit of crap. Jacob is the Father of the 12 Tribes of Israel. God gave them the Land... to specific Tribes.
Yes.
1 Peter 2:8
“And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.”
well I was going there with Ismael descendants possibly mixing with Jacob's sons.
And then of course a mixed bag within the 12 tribes of Isreal.
Well at least that's how I started the discussion 3 weeks ago but it got laughed at
I said Islam recognises the midianites as Jews and that got laughed at.
At no point did I say 3 weeks ago Ismael was a Muslim.
I wouldn't spend to long on the watch for trolls,
You may develop a suspicious mind if you haven't already.
You may even become a troll yourself who wrongly accuses people, all tho I bet you have your elephant nose shoved so far in the air you wouldn't notice.
Tell me do you spend each day on the troll watch here.
You know when you have an argument do you call your self a troll.
yes well what does the bible say about Muslims ?
I found this out on Ismael
So it looks like theres Ishmaelite Arabs as well as Ishmaelite Jews.
See all I ever hear in here is bad things said about Islam
But here we see there love for Abraham
thanks brother I'm listening to you, and I appreciate your knowledge.
So 3 weeks ago on theese forums I was told Ismael son of Abraham started the Muslims, this disturbed me greatly because nobody corrected him,
When I read that Islam is always fighting over first rights then I feal that must be investigated
So now you see why I research this.
But then I see Muslims are not mentioned in the bible at all you are correct sir So now I don't know what to believe.
But what about Arabs are they in the bible
This is the information I have so far
Geshem the Arabian (or Geshem the Arab; Hebrew: גֶשֶׁם הָעַרְבִי) is an Arab man mentioned in the Hebrew Bible. He was an ally of Sanballat and Tobiah and adversary of Nehemiah (Neh. 2:19, 6:1).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki
Geshem the Arabian - Wikipedia
Geshem the Arabian (or Geshem the Arab; Hebrew: גֶשֶׁם הָעַרְבִי) is an Arab man mentioned in the Hebrew Bible. He was an ally of Sanballat and Tobiah and adversary of Nehemiah (Neh. 2:19, 6:1).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki
Geshem the Arabian - Wikipedia
So here we see Arabs or are they Muslims ?
Nehemiah 2:19
New International Version
19 But when Sanballat the Horonite, Tobiah the Ammonite official and Geshem the Arab heard about it, they mocked and ridiculed us. “What is this you are doing?” they asked. “Are you rebelling against the king?”
Nehemiah 2:19
New International Version
19 But when Sanballat the Horonite, Tobiah the Ammonite official and Geshem the Arab heard about it, they mocked and ridiculed us. “What is this you are doing?” they asked. “Are you rebelling against the king?”
perhaps I should state my view.
There are many post trib believers who believe they will all face the great tribulation
But yet Jesus says no one will know the hour or the day
So the question I have which is puzzling me
How would post trib believers know the great tribulation had started
