The Last Dalai Lama?

[Digital_Angel_316]

The Last Dalai Lama?
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Why the 14th Dalai Lama May Be the Last -
By Barbara O'Brien

In November 2007, the 14th Dalai Lama suggested he might not be reborn, or else he
might choose the next Dalai Lama while he is still alive. That really would not be
completely unheard of, since in Buddhism linear time is considered a delusion, and since
rebirth is not really of one individual. I understand there have been other circumstances
in which a new high lama was born before the former one died.

His Holiness is concerned that the Chinese will choose and install the 15th Dalai Lama, as
they have done with the Panchen Lama. The Panchen Lama is the second-highest spiritual
leader of Tibet.

On May 14, 1995, the Dalai Lama identified a six-year-old boy named Gedhun Choekyi
Nyima as the 11th reincarnation of the Panchen Lama. By May 17 the boy and his parents
had been taken into Chinese custody. They have not been seen or heard from since. The
Chinese government named another boy, Gyaltsen Norbu, as the official 11th Panchen
Lama and had him enthroned in November 1995. See also “The Tragedy of the Panchen
Lama.”

No decisions have been made at this time, I don’t believe. But given the situation in Tibet,
it is entirely possible the institution of Dalai Lama will come to an end when the 14th Dalai
Lama dies.

Link -- >> The Last Dalai Lama? Why the 14th Dalai Lama May Be the Last

From Wikipedia:

The government of the People's Republic of China (PRC) has claimed the power to
approve the naming of "high" reincarnations in Tibet, based on a precedent set by the
Qianlong Emperor of the Qing Dynasty.

During September 2007 the Chinese government said all high monks must be approved
by the government, which would include the selection of the 15th Dalai Lama after the
death of Tenzin Gyatso. Since by tradition, the Panchen Lama must approve the
reincarnation of the Dalai Lama, that is another possible method of control.

In response to this scenario, Tashi Wangdi, the representative of the 14th Dalai Lama,
replied that the Chinese government's selection would be meaningless. "You can't impose
an Imam, an Archbishop, saints, any religion...you can't politically impose these things on
people," said Wangdi. "It has to be a decision of the followers of that tradition. The
Chinese can use their political power: force. Again, it's meaningless. Like their Panchen
Lama. And they can't keep their Panchen Lama in Tibet. They tried to bring him to his
monastery many times but people would not see him. How can you have a religious
leader like that?"

Link -- >> Dalai Lama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[FSUBoy966]

Even on a Christian site, we can appreciate how horrible this is. Buddhism is one of the only religions in history that has completely gotten along with our beliefs, as they too are peaceful, loving people. The Chinese government is an enemy to freedom and religions of all kinds, especially ones like Buddhism and Christianity that don't accept their blind loyalty. We as Christians should stand up against tyranny wherever it is and help our Buddhist brothers and sisters in China, speaking out against their oppression by these hateful communists.

 

[Scotth1960]

Even on a Christian site, we can appreciate how horrible this is. Buddhism is one of the only religions in history that has completely gotten along with our beliefs, as they too are peaceful, loving people. The Chinese government is an enemy to freedom and religions of all kinds, especially ones like Buddhism and Christianity that don't accept their blind loyalty. We as Christians should stand up against tyranny wherever it is and help our Buddhist brothers and sisters in China, speaking out against their oppression by these hateful communists.
AMEN.

 

[Digital_Angel_316]

Even on a Christian site, we can appreciate how horrible this is. Buddhism is one of the only religions in history that has completely gotten along with our beliefs, as they too are peaceful, loving people. The Chinese government is an enemy to freedom and religions of all kinds, especially ones like Buddhism and Christianity that don't accept their blind loyalty. We as Christians should stand up against tyranny wherever it is and help our Buddhist brothers and sisters in China, speaking out against their oppression by these hateful communists.

FSUBoy and Scott, I respectfully disagree. The Mahayana Buddha sects are cults, protecting
an evil system. While we are certainly not against persons, and certainly are not for
oppression and persecution of persons, we cannot stand for falseness. Jesus is THE WAY and
says so, no others come to, or come to be, the Authority apart from his teachings. There are
such deceivers among us, trained by the Mahayana in Buddhist discourse and debate --
deception and illusion. We must call them to the TRUE WAY, THE WAY of Jesus, the Nazarene
Essene. "Hollywood Buddhism" is not really Buddhism at all. I will post more on the
Mahayana sects in future posts.

 

[FSUBoy966]

FSUBoy and Scott, I respectfully disagree. The Mahayana Buddha sects are cults, protecting
an evil system. While we are certainly not against persons, and certainly are not for
oppression and persecution of persons, we cannot stand for falseness. Jesus is THE WAY and
says so, no others come to, or come to be, the Authority apart from his teachings. There are
such deceivers among us, trained by the Mahayana in Buddhist discourse and debate --
deception and illusion. We must call them to the TRUE WAY, THE WAY of Jesus, the Nazarene
Essene. "Hollywood Buddhism" is not really Buddhism at all. I will post more on the
Mahayana sects in future posts.

Mahayana isn't a cult of Buddhism. It's one of the three main paths of buddhism. I'm a religion major and know a great deal about Buddhism. While Buddhists do not believe that Jesus is their savior, they are a peaceful people that have no reason to be oppressed. the Chinese government is the enemy of all religious groups that preach peace and loyalty to things other than the government. Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, etc. should come together to fight religious oppression. As an America, I cannot stand back while people's religious ideas are being oppressed, even if they are not the same beliefs I have.

 

[Digital_Angel_316]

Mahayana isn't a cult of Buddhism. It's one of the three main paths of buddhism. I'm a religion major and know a great deal about Buddhism. While Buddhists do not believe that Jesus is their savior, they are a peaceful people that have no reason to be oppressed. the Chinese government is the enemy of all religious groups that preach peace and loyalty to things other than the government. Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, etc. should come together to fight religious oppression. As an America, I cannot stand back while people's religious ideas are being oppressed, even if they are not the same beliefs I have.

You should study Mahayana a bit more. The cult that elevates a magic leader as 'head'
does so to hide behind the image of a system, whilst pursuing it's own ends. This is why
scripture tells us there is one name, one head -- Jesus - THE WAY.

This is also why the current Dalai Lama has been saying for almost 40 years now, that
such a cult will not work, and has said so again and again -- he can't cover the cult under
him, using him as a figure head, whilst they prance about in all manners of feigned
righteousness pursuing selfish gain. It doesn't matter if the 'head' is a lama or a pope,
president or king, prime minister or potentate.

Islam, Mahayana Buddhism, Baptists, Mormons and Africans all would love Sharia law and
free alms from those forced to worship them whilst they preach their falseness. We need
to see above and beyond this, and not acquiesce to falseness, but call to truth and
righteousness.

Check out this thread on the christian chat Forum:

SEALED TIL THE END - BEL AND THE DRAGON
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/26842-sealed-til-end-bel-dragon.html

 

[FSUBoy966]

You should study Mahayana a bit more. The cult that elevates a magic leader as 'head'
does so to hide behind the image of a system, whilst pursuing it's own ends. This is why
scripture tells us there is one name, one head -- Jesus - THE WAY.

This is also why the current Dalai Lama has been saying for almost 40 years now, that
such a cult will not work, and has said so again and again -- he can't cover the cult under
him, using him as a figure head, whilst they prance about in all manners of feigned
righteousness pursuing selfish gain. It doesn't matter if the 'head' is a lama or a pope,
president or king, prime minister or potentate.

Islam, Mahayana Buddhism, Baptists, Mormons and Africans all would love Sharia law and
free alms from those forced to worship them whilst they preach their falseness. We need
to see above and beyond this, and not acquiesce to falseness, but call to truth and
righteousness.

Check out this thread on the christian chat Forum:

SEALED TIL THE END - BEL AND THE DRAGON
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/26842-sealed-til-end-bel-dragon.html

Oh... See, you're not just not knowledable, you're kinda crazy... Baptists? really? Africans? As in ALL Africans? Sharia law is Islam. it has NOTHING to do with ANY other religion. And you need to learn respect for other religions. There's no reason to be rude to people b/c you disagree with them on a very heavy issue. Yes, I believe Jesus is my savior, but I'm not going to bash ANYONE's beliefs b/c I happen to not agree with them. That's just ignorance.

 

[AnandaHya]

i find it ironic that no one has mentioned the Bible verses that say men are alloted to live and die ONCE and therefore there is no reincarnation.

which would make this conversation mote.

 

[FSUBoy966]

i find it ironic that no one has mentioned the Bible verses that say men are alloted to live and die ONCE and therefore there is no reincarnation.

which would make this conversation mote.

No, it doesn't matter if it actually exists. the problem is that the Chinese government wants to install a fake religious leader into Buddhism. A leader that would be more loyal to the Chinese government than to his faith or his people. It's the equivalent of the Italian government forcing their own Pope onto the Catholic church.

 

[Digital_Angel_316]

Oh... See, you're not just not knowledable, you're kinda crazy... Baptists? really? Africans? As in ALL Africans? Sharia law is Islam. it has NOTHING to do with ANY other religion. And you need to learn respect for other religions. There's no reason to be rude to people b/c you disagree with them on a very heavy issue. Yes, I believe Jesus is my savior, but I'm not going to bash ANYONE's beliefs b/c I happen to not agree with them. That's just ignorance.

Yes, Baptists. Rick Warren - Baptist Pastor, Calvinist Wolf, CFR Member, NWO, New Age
Luciferian is one example, a high level one due to the influence of his books and speeches.
His membership in the Council of Foreign Relations and support of "Chrislam" the merging
of Christianity and Islam, the doing away of many christian fundamental principles and
practices so as not to offend Islam and other religions, AND, the support of -- you guessed
it --- SHARIA LAW.

A part of Sharia Law is a form of Welfare, to support the supposed leaders of the system.
It is why I referred to the Welfare system of the US, and many who abuse it. I am not
attempting to offend the many persons who rely on supplemental or emergency income
or support. I am saying, that many people use the Welfare System to continue a system
that can't be, no matter their race or religion. I also mentioned Mormons - take a note.
Another part of Sharia law is about divorce and remarriage - a doctrine on which many
religions are not sound, and certainly the US government is not - be forewarned, about
She-ites (sic).

This brings it back to Mahayana Buddhism and to my reference to "Sealed til the end - Bel
and the Dragon'. Check it out, contemplate it. It is about false use of almsgiving or from
the King/Government to support false systems. Also, do a quick check on:

* Rick Warren, *Chrislam, *CFR, *One World Religion - you will learn much.

Know that one element of Sharia and Welfare means that many need to work in order to
support those that do not. In it's extreme, and it is a part of the plan, and the abuse of
the system, is to CREATE Work to support this notion -- this is usually termed "Marxism'.
When it is forced or coerced, for example by economic deprivation or governmental
(schools are government agencies) coercion, it is called 'Facism'. You probably heard of
these terms in your High School History or Civics classes. It is a part of the reason that
the shooter in Norway gave for his recent killing rampage -- a work system to support
Welfare/Sharia law for an increasing immigrant population. The US now has a 'Job Czar',
appointed by the President of the US, who is the current head of G.E. a global player.

You have not yet completed your studies, and I encourage you to press on. I am sure you
are surrounded by many influences, but encourage you to explore on your own, and
welcome you to discuss issues and topics here in ChristianChat.com.

Respect is one thing, but realize, that God is not a respecter of persons, and warns us to
not be lukewarm in our approach to the Gospel. We are to understand and live the Gospel
in Jesus's name, and to share and call others to it -- in this is salvation.

Regards, Digital_Angel_316

 

[Digital_Angel_316]

No, it doesn't matter if it actually exists. the problem is that the Chinese government wants to install a fake religious leader into Buddhism. A leader that would be more loyal to the Chinese government than to his faith or his people. It's the equivalent of the Italian government forcing their own Pope onto the Catholic church.

Now you seem to be getting closer to the point.

 

[AnandaHya]

then the Buddhist people should use some of that logic training and reject the new leader instead of blinding following a puppet leader they should seek the moon and not the finger.

DA are you referring to me when you made that prior statement?

Jesus is my Savior and I believe He is the only gate that will lead to Heaven and freedom from the lies and illusions of this world.

Tibetian debate is more about being logical then being brainwashed. it would be like taking a college philosophy class.

Hi FSUBoy I majored in Religious Studies and Biology in college its nice to meet another religious studies major what are your post grad plans?

oh DA one pastor does NOT represent the whole denomination. Have a feeling the Baptist convention might disown Rick Warren soon if he keeps up the heresy. just sayin'

 

[FSUBoy966]

then the Buddhist people should use some of that logic training and reject the new leader instead of blinding following a puppet leader they should seek the moon and not the finger.

DA are you referring to me when you made that prior statement?

Jesus is my Savior and I believe He is the only gate that will lead to Heaven and freedom from the lies and illusions of this world.

Tibetian debate is more about being logical then being brainwashed. it would be like taking a college philosophy class.

Hi FSUBoy I majored in Religious Studies and Biology in college its nice to meet another religious studies major what are your post grad plans?

It would be easier if the Chinese government didn't violently oppress the Tibetan people to the point of near genocide. American and Japanese Buddhists, of course, you're right. But Buddhists in Tibet and China would be watched by the government if they rejected the leader. It's sad.

And I'm a political science/religion double major hahaha how controversial, right? I plan to go to law school and enter either into politics or become a public attorney to defend victims.

 

[AnandaHya]

lol it should be interesting. tell us if you decide to run for president. lol then we can say we knew you back in the day

 

[Graybeard]

Islam, Mahayana Buddhism, Baptists, Mormons and Africans all would love Sharia law and
free alms from those forced to worship them whilst they preach their falseness. We need
to see above and beyond this, and not acquiesce to falseness, but call to truth and
righteousness.

........Just for your information!!!...... AFRICANS are NOT a religious group!!.....an AFRICAN is one who lives and resides in Africa and who is a CITIZEN OF A COUNTRY that is located on the continent of AFRICA!
Just as you are an AMERICAN, I am an AFRICAN.....

 

[FSUBoy966]

........Just for your information!!!...... AFRICANS are NOT a religious group!!.....an AFRICAN is one who lives and resides in Africa and who is a CITIZEN OF A COUNTRY that is located on the continent of AFRICA!
Just as you are an AMERICAN, I am an AFRICAN.....

Boom. ^This.

 

[zone]

FSUBoy and Scott, I respectfully disagree. The Mahayana Buddha sects are cults, protecting
an evil system. While we are certainly not against persons, and certainly are not for
oppression and persecution of persons, we cannot stand for falseness. Jesus is THE WAY and
says so, no others come to, or come to be, the Authority apart from his teachings. There are
such deceivers among us, trained by the Mahayana in Buddhist discourse and debate --
deception and illusion. We must call them to the TRUE WAY, THE WAY of Jesus, the Nazarene
Essene. "Hollywood Buddhism" is not really Buddhism at all. I will post more on the
Mahayana sects in future posts.

ever heard of this CULT, DA:?
is this your group?

~ The Nazarene Way ~
The Esoteric Teachings of Jesus and the Nazarene Essenes​

http://www.thenazareneway.com/​

 

[AnandaHya]

........Just for your information!!!...... AFRICANS are NOT a religious group!!.....an AFRICAN is one who lives and resides in Africa and who is a CITIZEN OF A COUNTRY that is located on the continent of AFRICA!
Just as you are an AMERICAN, I am an AFRICAN.....

lol and we love our African Christian brothers

 

[jimmydiggs]

Maybe it will help the Bhuddists realize reincarnation is false. Hence, open them to the Gospel.

 

[FSUBoy966]

Maybe it will help the Bhuddists realize reincarnation is false. Hence, open them to the Gospel.

I don't think Jesus would be happy with a follower of His suggesting that hateful evil tyranny could somehow bring about the belief in the Gospel...

They're not going to think reincarnation is fake; they're going to believe their leader is elsewhere while their fake leader is a spy for the Chinese government.