What if you die before water baptism?

[Wansvic]

I love you providing the chapter and verses to verify what you stated.

Now I can be corrected by the Word of God... (if that were the case)...


Thirdly, Paul was given a dispensation of God that was ‘kept secret since the world began’ and so could not be the same message associated with water baptism (Rom 16:25, 1 Cor 9:17, Gal 1:11-12).

Thank you...

Those who are familiar with my posts know that I have no problem supplying references. I thought you were aware of the scripture. Clearly I was mistaken:

"And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
7 And all the men were about twelve." (Acts 19)

 

[Wansvic]

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Thirdly, Paul was given a dispensation of God that was ‘kept secret since the world began’ and so could not be the same message associated with water baptism (Rom 16:25, 1 Cor 9:17, Gal 1:11-12).

Thank you...

Note when and from where Paul wrote the epistles you reference. Paul water baptized those in Acts 19 and wrote Galatians at that time. Romans and Corinthians were written around the same time period.

 

[Magenta]

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No doubt this is @Eli1 putting the thumbs up to @Magenta have a good old laugh about mental illnesses to.

I remember @Magenta attacking me because I said someone may be suffering with dementia, well it just so turns out he admitted he keeps reliving his childhood at 86 years old
Which is another sign of dementia.

Hmm I wonder if @Magenta will rebuke @Eli1 for laughing about dementia.

She doesn't know yet that @Eli1 was the one laughing about it in the same thread she pulled me up about it.

But she does now.

But somehow I don't think she will, seeing as she's to busy having a laugh about my mental health.

You could say the pair of them are hypocrites, who speak nonsense 😊

Do your lies ever stop? Probably not.

 

[Magenta]

Bro you’re all over the place again.
So hold on a second, you’re admitting that you have mental health issues?
Well why didn’t you say so to begin with? This changes a lot of things.

Could just be more of his double-speak hypocrisy - complaining as a way of blaming, regardless of the truth.

Not too long go we were being told he didn't care what others believe about baptism.

Now he is saying dissenting views make him sick. Something sure doesn't add up.

 

[Genez]

The internet is a haven for psychopathic personalities...

A liars lair. With a smiley face painted on its door.

 

[Genez]

No.

We’re saved by faith in Jesus Christ alone. His Blood cleans us from our sins and His Body gives us His Righteousness which is the human fulfillment of the Law for us.

Receiving Jesus Christ as Savior, Lord and King saves us. Then, Jesus Christ seals us with the Holy Spirit and we belong to Him, to God.

Then, our body is baptized in water;
Our spirit receives the baptism with the Holy Spirit; and
Our soul goes through the baptism of Fire.

Why is it after we are saved we then need to be water baptized?
When John the Baptist was baptizing with water, it was before Jesus appeared on the scene?

Satan's joy is to set into motion a perpetual motion confusion machine in the body of Christ.
"Wind them up, and let them go." [self perpetuating]

We are all spinning until the Truth nails us down.

That requires to stop emoting and to THINK.
Come to our senses....
And, make sense.

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"Oh! I found a nice way to make the lie work! And, its so friendly! "​

(after all? its how it makes you feel that counts)....​

No wonder Jesus said only a few will make it... to finding the life he came to give us!

"Life more abundantly."

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"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads​

to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road ​

that leads to life, and only a few find it." Mat 7:13-14​

Most believers are "broad and wide minded" who end up becoming either miserable or goofy. Both unstable.
They never find the Life Jesus wants to give those who believe in Him.

"The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. ​

I came that they may have life and have it abundantly." John 10:10​

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But small is the gate and narrow the road ​

that leads to life, and only a few find it." ​

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Few find it.

Many think and emote on the broad and wide way,...
Seeking to define the Word of God in a manner that suits how they personally feel about a matter.
Not requiring of themselves objective truth that demands a denying of self and taking up their own cross
so that God can work His Life into them....



grace and peace .............

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

This thread is suppose to be about water baptism, but its now a thread for name calling.

How disgusting to resort to this behaviour In a thread about baptism.


In my lifetime generally what I've found is those who cast the first stone are generally the ones to watch out for.

And those who resort to calling people trolls are generally the trolls themselves.

Very immature mixed up people, with brains the size of a peanut.

Who can not discuss the word, because of the hearts that are full of hate.

The facts that people resort to name calling repeatedly suggests there not saved, and they do not seek the lord.

It also suggest they don't like the truth, and have more than likely saved themselves.

The best part is the people who are calling people names the most, are long serving members, who by now should know better.

But all they do is troll these forums everyday preaching love, whilst calling people names.

First class hypocrites.

When you give them an inch they escalate a hate fueld discussion, where by all the local trolls jump on the band wagon.

The other best part is generally they become the centre of attention and talk about nothing but trash unrelated to the topic at hand.

Generally each time the truth is raised that challenges there views, they resort to name calling, and behave like children, who have lost there rattles.

Total hypocrites.

 

[Genez]

This thread is suppose to be about water baptism, but its now a thread for name calling.

How disgusting to resort to this behaviour In a thread about baptism.


In my lifetime generally what I've found is those who cast the first stone are generally the ones to watch out for.

And those who resort to calling people trolls are generally the trolls themselves.

Very immature mixed up people, with brains the size of a peanut.

Who can not discuss the word, because of the hearts that are full of hate.

The facts that people resort to name calling repeatedly suggests there not saved, and they do not seek the lord.

It also suggest they don't like the truth, and have more than likely saved themselves.

The best part is the people who are calling people names the most, are long serving members, who by now should know better.

But all they do is troll these forums everyday preaching love, whilst calling people names.

First class hypocrites.

When you give them an inch they escalate a hate fueld discussion, where by all the local trolls jump on the band wagon.

The other best part is generally they become the centre of attention and talk about nothing but trash unrelated to the topic at hand.

Generally each time the truth is raised that challenges there views, they resort to name calling, and behave like children, who have lost there rattles.

Total hypocrites.

Wow... never met someone as humble as you are.

.............................................. Some were more.
And, some were less.

 

[mailmandan]

Hello @mailmandan

Good to see you! Don't mind Thunderrr-mental..... he kinda acts like a troll. There's A LOT of things he says that just need to be ignored. But, he does read our posts! Perhaps, the Lord will give him understanding.

Enjoy your day!

I was just thinking TROLL.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Welcome to the slop thread for people who have saved themselves.

They just sit around everyday attacking people's characters when given the word of God.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Matthew 16:25

King James Version



25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it:

what this means is you can not save yourself.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

I was just thinking TROLL.

I never had you down as someone who could stoop so low.

And in a thread about baptism of the holy spirit to.

Well it's a good Job I delayed my answer before, when you replied to me, and I said you've been listening to mixed up people to long.

Well siding with name callers proves that.

And shows just how much your easily lead, to side with opinion an evil.

I had the feeling you where going to reject the word of God, so I held off.

Well it's a good job I did.

Because now we see what your heart has grown fond of.

Someone who just posts trash without a care in the world.

Have a nice day. 😊

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Wow... never met someone as humble as you are.

.............................................. Some were more.
And, some were less.

thanks for your opinion 😊

Have a great day saving yourself

 

[mailmandan]

I never had you down as someone who could stoop so low.

And in a thread about baptism of the holy spirit to.

Well it's a good Job I delayed my answer before, when you replied to me, and I said you've been listening to mixed up people to long.

Well siding with name callers proves that.

And shows just how much your easily lead, to side with opinion an evil.

I had the feeling you where going to reject the word of God, so I held off.

Well it's a good job I did.

Because now we see what your heart has grown fond of.

Someone who just posts trash without a care in the world.

Have a nice day. 😊

Thanks for proving me right.

 

[Genez]

Welcome to the slop thread for people who have saved themselves.

They just sit around everyday attacking people's characters when given the word of God.

I would like to attack your character....

If I could find it.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

I would like to attack your character....

If I could find it.

. Well here's a nice humble scripture for you



Matthew 10:14

New International Version - UK



14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

I would like to attack your character....

If I could find it.

and if you want to speak about being humble

Saved people have mercy.

But my mercy for you is you can not save yourself

 

[Genez]

thanks for your opinion 😊

Have a great day saving yourself

Saving myself would be easy....

I would just put you back on Ignore.

 

[Genez]

. Well here's a nice humble scripture for you



Matthew 10:14

New International Version - UK



14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.

Dusting not needed. I'll just put you back on Ignore.

Took you off Ignore thew first time to find out why you were there to begin with.

But, I am now studying clinical psychology, and may be using you for my thesis

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Dusting not needed. I'll just put you back on Ignore.

Took you off Ignore thew first time to find out why you were there to begin with.

But, I am now studying clinical psychology, and may be using you for my thesis

I hope you put me permanently on ignore 😊