Christian Nationalist Movement in the United States

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gb9

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First off I don't like the myth of Jewish innocence where Jews were just an innocent, harmless minority of people and getting blamed and mistreated for no reason at all. I wouldn't be surprised if most Jews were just working their occupation and making a living, but it's the ones who had or gained power and influence that were doing things that would make Germans want to remove them or harm them.

I'm not clear on how much Jews contributed to WWI and blaming everything on Germany. There is the Balfour Declaration that involves a Rothschild using his power and connections to get America into the war in exchange for the UK granting the Jews the Palestinian territory. I don't know if Hitler knew about this, though. If they did other things during WWI, I don't know.

Immediately after WWI there was a Jewish-led communist revolution in Germany that failed unlike the one that succeeded in Russia. Good ol' Karl Marx was Jewish.

Then there's Jewish buying up of newspapers to spread lies and demoralize the German public.

Then there's pushing of every kind of degeneracy and perversion they can include homosexuality, transgenderism, beastiality, and even pedophilia.

Then there's hyperinflation of the currency with Jewish bankers running the money system and usury. Hitler committed the great crime of removing the Rothschild bank and instituting a currency based on German labor that would remain stable. I have heard that during this hyperinflation period Jews used their out of country connections to buy up over half the property in Germany. Imagine that. Some group of people that's less than 1% in your nation owns over 50% of everything. That could make someone very angry.

Then Hitler gets elected, and we have "JUDEA DECLARES WAR ON GERMANY." They started using their banking and trade connections to boycott German goods and hurt them economically.

If you understand the Jewishness of communism and how Jewish the Soviet leadership was, then the Germans could even blame Jews for the war with the Soviet Union.

After learning about all of this, the whole idea that blaming Jews was unfounded and unreasonable is not reasonable. Jews did a lot of wrong to the Germans, and if they did start gassing them or slaughtering them or whatever, it wouldn't have been for no reason at all like the narrative goes. I once even heard a rabbi talking to Jews who expressed this same sentiment.

What we have related to Germany is a victor's history. The USSR with its Holodomor and gulags is pretty much lying about everything, and at this point, I don't even know what I can trust coming from the official American, British, and other sources. If you want to talk about bias, it's all intended to make the Germans look as bad as possible. Many of the testimonies from Germans were obtained after torturing them to the point they'd say anything. Jewish testimonies of the camps generally feature ridiculously absurd lies. I would assume conditions in camps went from good to bad to worse overtime due to inability to supply them properly. I would even consider abuse and mistreatment of people a possibility when it's becoming obvious Germany will lose the war due to the despair this would cause. That is entirely different than camps being set up for the purpose of killing and disposing of people.
shhh, we are not supposed to know or talk about the balfour declaration...
or notice the bal part....
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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First off I don't like the myth of Jewish innocence where Jews were just an innocent, harmless minority of people and getting blamed and mistreated for no reason at all. I wouldn't be surprised if most Jews were just working their occupation and making a living, but it's the ones who had or gained power and influence that were doing things that would make Germans want to remove them or harm them.
First off no one here cares what you like or don't like. I checked your profile, it says you've been a Christian since 99, so you're no baby in the faith. You know racism is wrong. Jews were labeled, the had to wear a label, you understand that? They hid in attics and basements and wherever they could find hoping to escape being murdered. No, listen, their businesses were burned to the ground because they were JEWISH, no other reason. Then they were forced into ghettos with thousands of others and lived together 30 people to a couple rooms. If they didn't starve there from the lack of food and hard work they loaded into trains stacked like wood. They have more care for moving cattle than they did Jewish men, women and children. What were THEY guilty of??? Huh??? What were the children guilty of??!!! They were called "useless eaters" and most of them were killed. How do you JUSTIFY that?!! Then if they didn't die of thirst and lack of food they were sent into lines. The children one line, separated from parents, scared and alone. The elderly sent to die in gas chambers or shot. Men and women forced to work while they were starving to death. Experimented on, had to sleep in filth, loss of everything they had in the world and even their dignity. Did you ever stop to think someone here might be a survivor, or have family that died in the Holocaust? There are mounds of pictures, evidence, eye witness testimony, and records of the dim witted Germans who wrote everything down. It's probably of the most provable and attested to fact of history!!! The Germans themselves were forced to view what happened by the US so they could never be a denier, like you!!


I'm not clear on how much Jews contributed to WWI and blaming everything on Germany. There is the Balfour Declaration that involves a Rothschild using his power and connections to get America into the war in exchange for the UK granting the Jews the Palestinian territory. I don't know if Hitler knew about this, though. If they did other things during WWI, I don't know.
That is a pile of :poop: The land belonged to the Jews before Arabs ever set a toe in it. God gave the land to the Jews unconditionally. Jews have 3000 yrs of history, provable history in the land before an Arab ever landed. No such thing as a Palestinian, they are Arabs from surrounding countries. There are no such people as Palestinians. Period.


Immediately after WWI there was a Jewish-led communist revolution in Germany that failed unlike the one that succeeded in Russia. Good ol' Karl Marx was Jewish.
Communist Jews are a myth just like everything else you spout with your hate.


Then there's pushing of every kind of degeneracy and perversion they can include homosexuality, transgenderism, beastiality, and even pedophilia.
Oh yeah, it's just the Jews that push that. Sure, sure. We believe every racist thing you say.



Then there's hyperinflation of the currency with Jewish bankers running the money system and usury. Hitler committed the great crime of removing the Rothschild bank and instituting a currency based on German labor that would remain stable. I have heard that during this hyperinflation period Jews used their out of country connections to buy up over half the property in Germany. Imagine that. Some group of people that's less than 1% in your nation owns over 50% of everything. That could make someone very angry.
Well, there, you justified the entire Holocaust. So by that reasoning we can Holocaust those Chinese people because they own too much of the land. Wait, do you speak Chinese?


Then Hitler gets elected, and we have "JUDEA DECLARES WAR ON GERMANY." They started using their banking and trade connections to boycott German goods and hurt them economically.

If you understand the Jewishness of communism and how Jewish the Soviet leadership was, then the Germans could even blame Jews for the war with the Soviet Union.
Wow you're a walking, talking dictionary of Nazi propaganda! You've got every lie ever told. It's almost like you've memorized them. Talking points for the Nazis fake news. Unreal.



After learning about all of this, the whole idea that blaming Jews was unfounded and unreasonable is not reasonable. Jews did a lot of wrong to the Germans, and if they did start gassing them or slaughtering them or whatever, it wouldn't have been for no reason at all like the narrative goes. I once even heard a rabbi talking to Jews who expressed this same sentiment.
Yeah, where are the mods? Come on CC we don't believe like this. This beyond offensive and this person is a long way from a Christian. This needs to be stopped and this person needs to leave. I don't know what they are, but they sure aren't a Christian.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Sorry, ignorants was a bad word choice on my part and I apologize for using it.

Actually, the Bible uses the word 'deceived', and that's the word I should have used as well.

But can't you see that satan is rolling on the floor laughing? All he had to do was make an enemy on the left so horrible, so intolerable, that so many of us would glom onto the first con man who opposed them?

The left deceives the world

The right deceives believers.

We should not be deceived by either

We're not going to agree on this, I am not deceived, thank you. But I also do thank you for changing your words.
 

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We're not going to agree on this, I am not deceived, thank you. But I also do thank you for changing your words.
You know, the very definition of deception is that people who are falling for it, don't know they are falling for it.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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shhh, we are not supposed to know or talk about the balfour declaration...
or notice the bal part....
If you agree with his lunacy I must say I am surprised. I didn't think anyone here was that racist and hate filled.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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You know, the very definition of deception is that people who are falling for it, don't know they are falling for it.

That would mean everyone is deceived and no one knows the truth.
 

gb9

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If you agree with his lunacy I must say I am surprised. I didn't think anyone here was that racist and hate filled.
i did not agree with everything he said, but the balfour declaration is a real thing, a real piece of paper that began the process over a hundred years ago that shaped the middle east into what it is today.
 

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There no evidence the commenter in this thread is a believer. All non-believers hate God. They just express that in different ways.
For those reading along scripture does not assert "all non-believers hate God" that is a Calvinistic lens only.
 

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i did not agree with everything he said, but the balfour declaration is a real thing, a real piece of paper that began the process over a hundred years ago that shaped the middle east into what it is today.
The problem began with the Sykes-Picot agreement, I wonder how much innocent blood must still be shed, I guess two world wars is not enough.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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i did not agree with everything he said, but the balfour declaration is a real thing, a real piece of paper that began the process over a hundred years ago that shaped the middle east into what it is today.
Yes, I know what it is and it's history. It doesn't change the fact that Israel belongs to the Jews.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Amazing how the language of the left comes out in you.

Amazing how we're agreeing with each other one moment and then you change your mind and argue the other side. I'd say the left is coming out in YOU. Do you believe the Holocaust happened or not? Pick a side and stick with it.
 

JTB

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Ummm yeah, ok. This has nothing to do with politics and we've been through this before.
Politics has everything to do with it. The right claims to be the party of God, yet stand against so many Christian values, and embody so few fruit of the Holy Spirit.

And that my friend is a huge part of the deception. Getting you to THINK you're supporting Christian mores, when in reality, YOU ARE NOT.
 

JTB

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Amazing how we're agreeing with each other one moment and then you change your mind and argue the other side. I'd say the left is coming out in YOU. Do you believe the Holocaust happened or not? Pick a side and stick with it.
I wise man here once said the best way to prove yourself right, is to try to prove the other side right.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Politics has everything to do with it. The right claims to be the party of God, yet stand against so many Christian values, and embody so few fruit of the Holy Spirit.

And that my friend is a huge part of the deception. Getting you to THINK you're supporting Christian mores, when in reality, YOU ARE NOT.

Well, I think if you asked a lot of people across the country who are conservatives, you'd find they don't claim to be Christians. But far more on the Dem side. The Dems went radical so now anything that opposes them is seen as "Christian". That's why these nutters are coming into churches and shooting people. They figure the Maga's are all white Christian folk. I believe you are deceived if you believe the propaganda the Dems are spewing. Are the people on the Maga side more God conscious, perhaps, Christian, again maybe more than radical Dems. But I think it's evangelicals you're trying to take a stab at and I'll remind you they voted Obama in, twice, so that kinds blows your theory out of the water.

But lets compare on moral issues.

Maga- For restrictions on abortion. Defeated Roe vs Wade which everyone said was impossible before Trump.

Dems.- For abortion up until and after birth. So they support infanticide.


Maga - Against DEI, believe in merit when looking for workers.

Dems - Hire any moron as long as the are black, gay, trans and esp. if they are all three.

Maga - For legal immigration and giving asylum to those who come the right way ( like I did)

Dems- Wide open borders, don't care who comes. Allowing an invasion of people all over the world into the country with no idea who they are.

Maga- For charity and helping those in need. Not handouts to lazy people who sit home and smoke weed when they are able to work. Don't believe in people living off gov't handouts unless they are unable to work.

Dems- For gov't hand outs and keeping people dependent from cradle to grave, esp. minorities like blacks. Even Biden said you're not black if you don't vote for me.

Maga- Against drag queens teaching kids.

Dems- No issues with it whatsoever.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Well, I think if you asked a lot of people across the country who are conservatives, you'd find they don't claim to be Christians. But far more on the Dem side. The Dems went radical so now anything that opposes them is seen as "Christian". That's why these nutters are coming into churches and shooting people. They figure the Maga's are all white Christian folk. I believe you are deceived if you believe the propaganda the Dems are spewing. Are the people on the Maga side more God conscious, perhaps, Christian, again maybe more than radical Dems. But I think it's evangelicals you're trying to take a stab at and I'll remind you they voted Obama in, twice, so that kinds blows your theory out of the water.

But lets compare on moral issues.

Maga- For restrictions on abortion. Defeated Roe vs Wade which everyone said was impossible before Trump.

Dems.- For abortion up until and after birth. So they support infanticide.


Maga - Against DEI, believe in merit when looking for workers.

Dems - Hire any moron as long as the are black, gay, trans and esp. if they are all three.

Maga - For legal immigration and giving asylum to those who come the right way ( like I did)

Dems- Wide open borders, don't care who comes. Allowing an invasion of people all over the world into the country with no idea who they are.

Maga- For charity and helping those in need. Not handouts to lazy people who sit home and smoke weed when they are able to work. Don't believe in people living off gov't handouts unless they are unable to work.

Dems- For gov't hand outs and keeping people dependent from cradle to grave, esp. minorities like blacks. Even Biden said you're not black if you don't vote for me.

Maga- Against drag queens teaching kids.

Dems- No issues with it whatsoever.

Continue with...

Maga - Against men in womens sports

Dems - No issues with it

Maga- Against children being ripped apart because they think they are trans. Believe parents have a right to know before their child has an abortion, sex change, are reading porn in schools.

Dems- Believe your child belongs to them.

Maga- Usually for small gov't and less restrictions on small business. They grow the private sector.

Dems- Grow the gov't keep the small guy down with as many restrictions as possible.

Maga- For marriage and family

Dems- For everything but family.

May add more as I think of them. But as I said, I'm definitely not deceived.
 

Nehemiah6

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And that my friend is a huge part of the deception. Getting you to THINK you're supporting Christian mores, when in reality, YOU ARE NOT.
No one claims that the GOP promotes Christian values. Another straw man argument. And since the majority of Republicans are RINOs they do not even stand for their own principles.

But those were originally conservative principles, not Communist principles.
OUR PLATFORM
Republicans believe in liberty, economic prosperity, preserving American values and traditions, and restoring the American dream for every citizen of this great nation. As a party, we support policies that seek to achieve those goals.

Our platform is centered on stimulating economic growth for all Americans, protecting constitutionally-guaranteed freedoms, ensuring the integrity of our elections, and maintaining our national security. We are working to preserve America's greatness for our children and grandchildren.

The Republican Party's legacy -- we were originally founded in 1854 for the purpose of ending slavery -- compels us to patriotically defend America's values. As the left attempts to destroy what makes America great, the Republican Party is standing in the breach to defend our nation and way of life.

As you can see, the principles of the GOP are sound, but THEY ARE BEING BETRAYED DAILY by the RINOs in Congress and the Senate. I would say that perhaps 95% of those politicians should simply join the Democrats instead of deceiving the voters.