Foolish NATO generals want war, not peace

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Nehemiah6

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Dem Senator Chris Coons Says American Troops Will be on the Front Lines in Russia Without More Aid for Ukraine
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/02/dem-senator-chris-coons-says-american-troops-will/
"This sounds like a threat. It’s a blatant example of fear-mongering that Democrats and even some Republicans have resorted to in the case of funding for Ukraine."

Now is this warn-mongering or is it not? All of a sudden Ukraine is more important than America. So why aren't American troops posted at the southern border to protect America's national security? The double-standard is obvious.

Listen to this BALONEY: “We are best off investing in the Ukrainians who are fighting bravely for their own freedom" -- Coons While these same evil Democrats destroy the freedoms of Americans at the same time. There is a Gulag in Washington. D.C. where those who want freedom are abused and locked up.
 
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Have you still not figured out that we have to prepare for war to not be dragged into one? Or do you follow Putin when he’s bashing us for being prepared for whatever shenanigans he’s planning on?
Whatever happened to Mutually Assured Destruction? Surely that's the way of the future, if the war is really to deter Russia? If it's a war to thin out the peasants and make profits, then obviously, government-mandated slavery (a.k.a. conscription) and high-cost, low-impact conventional weapons are the way to go.
 
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What utter nonsense. It is not my heart that is inclined to war but it is the Western politicians and NATO which want war, war, and more war. China is already the sworn enemy of the USA (although American politicians refuse to face that fact). And if NATO attacks Russia, China will definitely respond. No I am not brainwashed, but perhaps you are.

The China-Russia Axis Takes Shape
The bond has been decades in the making, but Russia’s war in Ukraine has tightened their embrace.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/09/1...cs-sco-economy-military-war-ukraine-putin-xi/
I may have been brainwashed before, but now I know what I'm talking about.

Jesus said love your enemies.Even if politicians in China and the United States and most people don't understand this truth.As Christians, we should understand the reasons for this truth.

I don't know where your hostility comes from.I said it came from brainwashing.You deny it.Then why should China be hostile to the United States and help Russia?China once helped the United States to resist the Soviet Union.

So let the righteous remain righteous, and the unjust remain unjust.
 
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Then why should China be hostile to the United States and help Russia?China once helped the United States to resist the Soviet Union.

Let me answer you.Because American politicians need to be hostile to China, this is because they have been brainwashing propaganda for a long time, which can win them quite a few votes.

Because those China people are not Christians or Jesus Christ.They only understand one problem, and they are willing to help those who are friendly with China.These China people only know one thing,The United States is hostile to China and Russia for no reason.So of course they won't understand what Jesus said about loving your enemies.

When a country or NATO is hostile to you for no reason, will you help their enemies unconditionally?
 
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Pelosi once made a confusing remark before a media interview.
Nancy Pelosi had an argument with the Pro-Gaza protesters, but she inexplicably said: Go back to China.

Check it out <-------

Don't you feel that they have no reason
 
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Give to everyone who asks of you. And from him who takes away your goods do not askthemback. And just as you want men to do to you, you also do to them likewise. But if you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. And if you lendto thosefrom whom you hope to receive back, what credit is that to you? For even sinners lend to sinners to receive as much back. But love your enemies, do good, and lend, hoping for nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High. For He is kind to the unthankful and evil. Therefore be merciful, just as your Father also is merciful."
 

Nehemiah6

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Russia is not my enemy.
That's right. Russia and Putin are the bogeymen because the corrupt Western politicians want to deflect attention from their own treasonous and destructive policies and actions. Putin (rightly or wrongly) wants to restore the Russian empire, and his focus has been on the former countries which were a part of the Soviet Union (including Ukraine where there are many Russians and Russian loyalists). But now that NATO wants to attack Russia, everything has changed.

Now the West is getting into a direct confrontation with Russia, and Russia may well bomb London, Washington, Berlin and Kiev in retaliation. Do the Western politicians care? No. All they want is war, war, and more war. One of the NATO leaders foolishly said recently "We will be at war with Russia for decades!"

Boris Johnson sabotaged a peace deal with Russia and Ukraine a long time ago (at the behest of the West). So he is directly responsible for the deaths of thousands on both sides of this conflict. As well as the further destruction of Ukraine.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Let’s pray you’re the one being right and not the rest of the western world.
Wow! You're incredible! You know what the entire Western world is thinking. :eek:
I suggest you do some investigating outside mainstream media.
 

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Wow! You're incredible! You know what the entire Western world is thinking. :eek:
I suggest you do some investigating outside mainstream media.
I admit that I’m not witchcraft master able to read the rest of the western world’s minds.

What I do know is that Russian disinformation is making its sleazy way into our minds.
 

Nehemiah6

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What I do know is that Russian disinformation is making its sleazy way into our minds.
This horse has already been beaten to death. You are living in the era when the Soviet Union still existed and Pravda was its mouthpiece.

Today the majority of disinformation is coming from (1) the White House, (2) the mainstream media, (3) the government officials who are paid to provide factual information but tell lies daily, (4) the Democratic politicians who do not know the meaning of truth, and (5) the Pentagon and its corrupt generals. This is all originating in America. Who has been foolishly claiming the Climate Change is a bigger threat than nuclear disaster? Who has been claiming the "the border is secure" when it is not? Who has been claiming that "the economy is healthy" when it is the exact opposite? Who has been gaslighting the public on a daily basis? Who has been claiming that if only many more billions were thrown at Ukraine, they would win that stupid war?
 

Susanna

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This horse has already been beaten to death. You are living in the era when the Soviet Union still existed and Pravda was its mouthpiece.

Today the majority of disinformation is coming from (1) the White House, (2) the mainstream media, (3) the government officials who are paid to provide factual information but tell lies daily, (4) the Democratic politicians who do not know the meaning of truth, and (5) the Pentagon and its corrupt generals. This is all originating in America. Who has been foolishly claiming the Climate Change is a bigger threat than nuclear disaster? Who has been claiming the "the border is secure" when it is not? Who has been claiming that "the economy is healthy" when it is the exact opposite? Who has been gaslighting the public on a daily basis? Who has been claiming that if only many more billions were thrown at Ukraine, they would win that stupid war?
If you want to believe that Russia is not flooding the western world with disinformation that’s your choice.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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I admit that I’m not witchcraft master able to read the rest of the western world’s minds.
What I do know is that Russian disinformation is making its sleazy way into our minds.
Do you have an example of Russian disinformation? I'm more concerned with real problems.
What my government is doing to it's own people is far more serious to me.
 

Nehemiah6

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If you want to believe that Russia is not flooding the western world with disinformation that’s your choice.
Be specific. What disinformation has originated in Russia recently? Is this disinformation below?
'Russian President Vladimir Putin gave a sarcastic response on Thursday when asked to comment on U.S. counterpart Joe Biden calling him a "crazy SOB." The Kremlin leader, who endorsed Biden over rival Donald Trump in the upcoming U.S. elections, joked: "He can't of course say to me: Volodya, well done, thank you [for the endorsement], you've helped me a lot?"'

1. Did Biden make that remark about Putin? Absolutely
Biden calls Putin a 'crazy SOB' during San Francisco fundraiser
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/bi...b-during-san-francisco-fundraiser-2024-02-22/

2. Did Putin dismiss it with a sarcastic remark? Absolutely
MOSCOW, Feb 22 (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin praised Joe Biden on Thursday for calling him a "crazy SOB", saying with an ironic smile that the remark showed why the Kremlin felt Biden was a preferable future U.S. president to Donald Trump.

For a US president to use such language publicly is a disgrace. Biden's daily lies are more than disinformation. Putin is no more a crazy SOB than Biden (in fact a lot less).
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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That's right. Russia and Putin are the bogeymen because the corrupt Western politicians want to deflect attention from their own treasonous and destructive policies and actions. Putin (rightly or wrongly) wants to restore the Russian empire, and his focus has been on the former countries which were a part of the Soviet Union (including Ukraine where there are many Russians and Russian loyalists). But now that NATO wants to attack Russia, everything has changed.

Now the West is getting into a direct confrontation with Russia, and Russia may well bomb London, Washington, Berlin and Kiev in retaliation. Do the Western politicians care? No. All they want is war, war, and more war. One of the NATO leaders foolishly said recently "We will be at war with Russia for decades!"

Boris Johnson sabotaged a peace deal with Russia and Ukraine a long time ago (at the behest of the West). So he is directly responsible for the deaths of thousands on both sides of this conflict. As well as the further destruction of Ukraine.
Sorry about that. Boris Johnson's actions are a national embarrassment to say the least. He seems oblivious to the betrayal felt by UK voters over his failure to govern properly or show any interest in the problems effecting the nation.

Then he went off to Ukraine and scuppered the peace talks as you have mentioned. Now he seems determined to wreck what is left of the UK economy by funding a war that should have had nothing to do with us. And we are stitched up wit a PM we didn't elect.

Sorry I ranted a bit.
 

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Sorry about that. Boris Johnson's actions are a national embarrassment to say the least. He seems oblivious to the betrayal felt by UK voters over his failure to govern properly or show any interest in the problems effecting the nation.

Then he went off to Ukraine and scuppered the peace talks as you have mentioned. Now he seems determined to wreck what is left of the UK economy by funding a war that should have had nothing to do with us. And we are stitched up wit a PM we didn't elect.

Sorry I ranted a bit.
Your frustration is one any sensible person is feeling. But it's a battle we must first face on our knees. When we truly desire righteousness inwardly, God will restore it outwardly.
 

Nehemiah6

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And we are stitched up wit a PM we didn't elect
Rishi Sunak is a globalist who does not give a hoot about the UK. He would sooner submit to Klaus Schwab than do the right thing. It is simply amazing how the Tories have dithered for years, and systematically destroyed the UK with their foolish ideas and policies.

The former Home Secretary accused Sir Keir Starmer of 'being in hock' to extremists
"Suella Braverman has claimed that Islamist extremists are now in charge of Britain, after Lindsay Hoyle admitted he was wrong when he decided to break with protocol as a result of security threats to MPs. The former Home Secretary said Britain is "sleeping walking into a ghettoised society", something she claimed threatens free expression."
https://www.gbnews.com/politics/suella-braverman-islamist-extremists-lindsay-hoyle-ceasefire

She is absolutely right. How in the world did Sadiq Khan become mayor of London in order to protect the Islamist terrorists at the expense of Londoners?
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Rishi Sunak is a globalist who does not give a hoot about the UK. He would sooner submit to Klaus Schwab than do the right thing. It is simply amazing how the Tories have dithered for years, and systematically destroyed the UK with their foolish ideas and policies.

The former Home Secretary accused Sir Keir Starmer of 'being in hock' to extremists
"Suella Braverman has claimed that Islamist extremists are now in charge of Britain, after Lindsay Hoyle admitted he was wrong when he decided to break with protocol as a result of security threats to MPs. The former Home Secretary said Britain is "sleeping walking into a ghettoised society", something she claimed threatens free expression."
https://www.gbnews.com/politics/suella-braverman-islamist-extremists-lindsay-hoyle-ceasefire

She is absolutely right. How in the world did Sadiq Khan become mayor of London in order to protect the Islamist terrorists at the expense of Londoners?
Not sleep walking. Some have been warning about this for years. "islamophobia" is usually the reply. Books have been written.

Khan was elected mayor because The Labour government from 1997 forward imported a Muslim voting block for themselves.
Now greater London is around 40% foreign born. Add to that the Socialist-Worker types and the indoctrinated Marxist younger generation and presto - a Muslim London Mayor who hates indigenous Brits.

Then we have the Muslim Scottish National Party leader Humza Yousaf who is proud to stand in The Scottish Parliament
and declare there too many white people in Scotland.

This wasn't a sleep walk. It was a plan. Don't let this happen to your country.

On a somewhat related side note. The Mayor of London before Sadiq Khan was Boris Johnson. He was well-regarded then.