Plight of the palestinians

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ThereRoseaLamb

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I suppose the comment is only acceptable depending on to whom it is applied, as though everything is black and white.

Double standards and the inability to look at reality is not a good thing for many reasons.

"You love murderers" isn't out of line?!!
 

Shilohsfoal

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JEWS ARE NOT THE ANTICHRIST

THE ANTICHRIST IS A GENTILE
That is a lie
An outright lie.

Anyone who denies Jesus is the Christ is antichrist.

1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.



The first antichrist was Caiaphas.High priest of Israel who denied Christ before the Sanhedrin.That was when they judged Jesus for blasphemy and spit in his face and decided he should die for his blasphemy.


The majority of the people in Israel deny Jesus is the Christ.
Only 1.9 percent of Israels population believe in Jesus and those are persecuted by the majority antichrist population.Most of the1.9 percent christians in Israel are Arab christians.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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He promised them a Messiah and He fulfilled His promise.
Darby and Scofield's dispensationalism is false.

No, He promised them the land. And it's not like it was only stated in one verse. Has nothing to do with Darby, never heard of that till I came to CC. It's in the book, look it up. You don't need someone to tell you what's in the Word.
 

Shilohsfoal

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"You love murderers" isn't out of line?!!

Well,go you love the prostitute or not?
It sure sounds like it because you are defending her.

Jerusalem is a city of murderers.Seat of the beast.The synagogues of satan.

Isaiah ,1:21
See how the faithful city has become a prostitute! She once was full of justice; righteousness used to dwell in her— but now murderers!
 

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Well,go you love the prostitute or not?
It sure sounds like it because you are defending her.

Jerusalem is a city of murderers.Seat of the beast.The synagogues of satan.

Isaiah ,1:21
See how the faithful city has become a prostitute! She once was full of justice; righteousness used to dwell in her— but now murderers!
Let me guess, you think the Holocaust didn't happen.
 

Shilohsfoal

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No, He promised them the land. And it's not like it was only stated in one verse. Has nothing to do with Darby, never heard of that till I came to CC. It's in the book, look it up. You don't need someone to tell you what's in the Word.
God promised to give Christ the land.

The only people who will dwell in that land forever with Christ are those who belong to Christ

The antichrist Jews who deny Christ will not be allowed to stay in his kingdom.
 

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"You love murderers" isn't out of line?!!
Yes, it is. He should have stated defense of murderers.

But, is it more offensive to you because he is calling the Jews murderers?
If he has stated that to me about Palestinians you probably would have agreed.

Anyway, there is no dispassionate debate on this, I can admit the atrocities of Hamas and terrorists, having said that the other side, IDF, always gets a free pass from some as though every action is justified.

A completely tragic situation now with children and women starving, this never had to happen and both sides share in the corruption equally, along with British settler colonialism the start of the problem.
 

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God promised to give Christ the land.

The only people who will dwell in that land forever with Christ are those who belong to Christ

The antichrist Jews who deny Christ will not be allowed to stay in his kingdom.
The land promise has been extended to the whole world (cosmos) for all believers.
As for the Jews we should pray they believe in the Good News of Jesus Christ.

Your rhetoric is over the top.
Making everything about groups does not solve the problem, we are individuals and no one is prohibited from the promised land given via Jesus.

I think I cannot support your view either!!:(
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I have mixed opinions on this issue, and I think it would be unfair to blame all on the Palestinians.
The Palestinians have been given peace deal after peace deal and refused them all. Other countries have made peace for land with Israel. You can lead a horse to water. Israel wants peace, but they are not willing to allow their people to be murdered in cold blood. They have 1% of the land in the ME and people are still screaming "from the river to the sea". When do Palestinians have to try something to bring peace? When does it become their responsibility?


I can see why something like Hamas should be eliminated, but lets not pretend the Israeli side has not its own psychos. The government of Israel contains a strong faction of radical Jews who despise not only Muslims but also Christians. I remember hearing the news of a member of the Knesset burning a New Testament.
And yet Palestinians have every freedom in Israel. They are part of the gov't, they teach and attend college, the hospital there serves everyone. Palestinians are treated as if they are Israelis. We have haters in our gov't too but we have laws in place the same as Israel does.

Oh and the disgusting crimes in Gaza cant be ignored in any way.
I agree, the largest killing of Jews since the Holocaust. Children were murdered in front of their parents. Women were raped and their bodies dragged through the streets. Still have hostages, babies, held hostage. Horrific crimes.
 

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I agree, the largest killing of Jews since the Holocaust. Children were murdered in front of their parents. Women were raped and their bodies dragged through the streets. Still have hostages, babies, held hostage. Horrific crimes.
Wow, do you even know what the IDF has done, do you know how they lie daily.

The women mass raped was a lie and the story has been retracted by the New York Times.
 

Shilohsfoal

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The land promise has been extended to the whole world (cosmos) for all believers.
As for the Jews we should pray they believe in the Good News of Jesus Christ.

Your rhetoric is over the top.
Making everything about groups does not solve the problem, we are individuals and no one is prohibited from the promised land given via Jesus.

I think I cannot support your view either!!:(
I made it perfectly clear that no one will.live in the promised land except they belong to Christ.

There are two groups . Them that believe the gospel and are we baptised and them that dont.You don't have to believe it if you don't want to.
 

Shilohsfoal

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Wow, do you even know what the IDF has done, do you know how they lie daily.

The women mass raped was a lie and the story has been retracted by the New York Times.
That's why the IDF will soon be replaced with a different armed forces that will occupy Israel on the Israeli governments behalf.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Why do you support the murderer
That :poop: doesn't work on me, find someone else.


Abraham Issac and Jacob all died having not received he promises.

You want proof ,here it is.

Hebrews 11:13
These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
Anyone with common sense would know Abraham has not received the promised land as an eternal possession yet or he would be living in it today.
I think I see the problem now. That doesn't mean that the promise won't be kept. I think you have a very large misunderstanding of the Bible. Abraham knew when God promised he would be the father of many nations it wasn't going to happen on Saturday. He understood that would happen in the future. God will keep His promise and Abraham will know it!!

But you believe the beast that now occupies the kingdom shall process it forever
and will not be judged by God for its sins it commits on a daily basis.
No! The beast is the anti-christ. smh You don't have a fundamental understanding of Scripture. If you attend a church, find another one. If you don't go find one that preaches the Word. My soul what a mess you have going.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Galatians 3:16
The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ.



Why are so many people dead set against Christ receiving the promises he was promised ?

They support his enemies believing they shall rule forever .Supporting the antichrist who deny Christ.
Because that isn't what the Bible says and you don't know what you're talking about. You want to come here to preach but you don't grasp any understanding of what the Word says. You need to learn first. You're as confused as a termite in a yo-yo.
 

Shilohsfoal

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That :poop: doesn't work on me, find someone else.




I think I see the problem now. That doesn't mean that the promise won't be kept. I think you have a very large misunderstanding of the Bible. Abraham knew when God promised he would be the father of many nations it wasn't going to happen on Saturday. He understood that would happen in the future. God will keep His promise and Abraham will know it!!



No! The beast is the anti-christ. smh You don't have a fundamental understanding of Scripture. If you attend a church, find another one. If you don't go find one that preaches the Word. My soul what a mess you have going.
The Israeli government is the beast that received the deadly wound and was healed.It received the deadly wound in 70 ad and was healed in 1948.

The Israeli government also need Jesus is the Christ.Not a single Christian in the entire goverment.

1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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But, we participate with Him in His inheritance as co-heirs with Christ !
Drivel, the Bible makes it clear the land is actual land. It's clear about who that land belongs to. And you can rip out half the Bible to pretend that the Jews get all the curses and the Church gets all the blessings but that is not what the Bible says. God made a covenant, I gave the Scripture verses where He told each generation AGAIN that it was their inheritance. The land belongs to them. Or God lied.