Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

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Cameron143

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So nobody ever got saved by hearing the gospel? I guess that the apostles and those who followed, who proclaimed the message of salvation, were just wasting their time. :LOL:
Most people get saved through the foolishness of preaching. But biblical hearing isn't simply hearing audibly. It also includes the idea of understanding. Jesus explains this in Matthew 13:10-17 when He quotes from Isaiah 6. What a number of people are trying to explain is that spiritual hearing is necessary to faith.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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You cant hear the Gospel Spiritually without being born again, regenerated.

Jesus specifically said one must be of God to hear His words Jn 8:47

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Vs 43

43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
You do realize the BIBLE SAYS only way to get FAITH is by hearing the Gospel of Christ?

So no matter what you say, if it does not Go by what the BIBLE says about getting Faith, you are WRONG!
 

FollowerofShiloh

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Most people get saved through the foolishness of preaching. But biblical hearing isn't simply hearing audibly. It also includes the idea of understanding. Jesus explains this in Matthew 13:10-17 when He quotes from Isaiah 6. What a number of people are trying to explain is that spiritual hearing is necessary to faith.
Nothing about Parables says it relates to Faith.

Only by hearing the Gospel of Christ produces Faith.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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You cant hear the Gospel Spiritually without being born again, regenerated.

Jesus specifically said one must be of God to hear His words Jn 8:47

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Vs 43

43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
There's NO Scripture that makes your claim
So this is the only TRUTH we have in the Bible on the topic about getting Faith
You cannot be of God until you first fulfill Romans 10:17 - So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ
 

FollowerofShiloh

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What kind of double speak question is that? False is false.
Amen!
Do you believe in Romans 10:17 - So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ
Or think Faith can come another way like being presented in recent posts?
 

Magenta

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Amen!
Do you believe in Romans 10:17 - So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ
Or think Faith can come another way like being presented in recent posts?
I don't know which recent posts you mean. I quoted a post from a few pages back if I recall correctly.


Romans 10:13-15
:)
 

FollowerofShiloh

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I don't know which recent posts you mean. I quoted a post from a few pages back if I recall correctly.


Romans 10:13-15
:)
I believe the portion of verse 15 fits verse 17 perfectly.

15 “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!”

17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ
 

Magenta

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I believe the portion of verse 15 fits verse 17 perfectly.

15 “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!”

17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ

Romans 10-13 + Galatians 3:5~ Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.
Does God lavish His Spirit on you and work miracles among you because you obey the law, or because you hear and believe?

:)
 

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To my understanding, and my understanding alone, this is a BIBLE based site. To me alone, that means what the Bible says how things happen is the LAW that is always correct. What the Bible says outranks doctrine.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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Romans 10-13 + Galatians 3:5~ Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.
Does God lavish His Spirit on you and work miracles among you because you obey the law, or because you hear and believe?

:)
Absolutely a truly wonderful post (y)
 

Magenta

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I love the Angel. The Angel sets the atmosphere of the scriptures :)
Thanks! I added the wings after constructing the figure out of various parts (I digitally collage).

I liked that pose because she had her hand up to her ear .:D
 
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The Gift of repentance comes with the New Birth, a new heart and inner man. This is the New Man that has repentance, his actions have been ordained by God to walk in, not forced
hi i just thought I would drop in

I did no't know you where a Calvinist, and I'm not concerned that your are, as we found agreement in many things concerning God's will, and how God Wills us


This was also at a time when I never knew the first thing about calvinism.

Back when I was fundaamental and at a time when I never knew you where Calvinist 😊

I just have a question that's niggling me.

Well two actually

When Calvinists say Jesus died for the elect only, is that on the bases he knows there elect before he saves them.

Or is it in the bases he determines they are elect after he plants his word in there hearts. Either way could you explain it to me please,.I promise I won't bite.


Second question.

Is there any possibility God did not hate esau the person, God just hated the the idea that Esau's should be blessed with first rights.

Am I right in thinking the descendants of Esau became the Edomites who God blessed with a promise.

Then God told the Israelites not to step one foot on there land.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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Thanks! I added the wings after constructing the figure out of various parts (I digitally collage).

I liked that pose because she had her hand up to her ear .:D
Her hand placement does seem to give her more purpose lol but it does