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FollowerofShiloh

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#81
lol.

Actually I know quite abit about money.. I know there are some cheats out there. at the same time, i know there are some who do it correctly.

Trump has not been proven guilty of any crime,, Yet the hate against him is greater than any person i have ever met, Even Hitler had more love than trump.
Actually he was already proven guilty (+ people who worked for him testified to it once the proofs were shown to them and they were caught red handed purging themselves) and assessed a 450 million dollar fine. Luckily he will be able to knock it down to under 100 mill but he still was found guilty or there would be no fines at all.
 
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lol.

Actually I know quite abit about money.. I know there are some cheats out there. at the same time, i know there are some who do it correctly.

Trump has not been proven guilty of any crime,, Yet the hate against him is greater than any person i have ever met, Even Hitler had more love than trump.
Trump will never be proven of any crime is more fitting.

Because trump is like any other USA president, they never do get proven of any crime.

What all the presidents do is pave the way for you to be brainwashed when they finish term for a new president to brainwash you for another 4 years.

There what you call power mad people.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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Feb 19, 2024 — ... Trump Organization companies guilty of 17 felony counts related to tax fraud

Now that they have this in the books, they can legally go after him on criminal charges. 17 Felonies! That's 20 years in a Federal Cage with no time removed for good behavior. So he desperately needs to win this election or he could be gone for good.
 

PaulThomson

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It's quite possible for an ethical property developer to acquire millions. It's not possible for an ethical career politician to make millions.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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It's quite possible for an ethical property developer to acquire millions. It's not possible for an ethical career politician to make millions.
Show me one person who at least did not have a minimum of at least 1 million dollars before they were elected to either the House, Senate, Commander in Chief?
Trump is the first and only ever billionaire. And back then he had 17 counts of fraud committed but "hidden.".
 

FollowerofShiloh

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It's quite possible for an ethical property developer to acquire millions. It's not possible for an ethical career politician to make millions.
I just did a quick search on Biden. His accountant revealed he made about 12 million in a couple books he wrote after being the vp. Not sure I buy that but the IRS confirms it and that makes his money legal.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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There are principles that allow a reader to understand a passage of scripture, having first prayed for the Holy Spirit to work on your heart before reading the passage.

Firstly- Asking who is talking to whom? The people being addressed could come from many different backgrounds and not be believers. So you don't apply a passage addressed to non-believers to believers.

Secondly- What is the subject of the passage? The verse before the one you are looking at could have the primary reason for the passage in it.

Thirdly- When or what time is the passage in.

Lastly- What is the occasion for speaking or writing? Time, place, event?

So with these questions you can look at a passage and see the real application of it.. rather than your own interpretation.
I definitely agree with you (y)
 

Everlasting-Grace

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Actually he was already proven guilty (+ people who worked for him testified to it once the proofs were shown to them and they were caught red handed purging themselves) and assessed a 450 million dollar fine. Luckily he will be able to knock it down to under 100 mill but he still was found guilty or there would be no fines at all.
No he was not proven guilty

The bank who gave him the load approved the loans, and they said he did nothing wrong and did everything by the book.

What the city of new york did is unconstitutional and is just a left wing fanatic and an AG who is overstepping their bounds..
 

Everlasting-Grace

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Trump will never be proven of any crime is more fitting.

Because trump is like any other USA president, they never do get proven of any crime.

What all the presidents do is pave the way for you to be brainwashed when they finish term for a new president to brainwash you for another 4 years.

There what you call power mad people.
well all we have to do is look at the mainstream media, and thats exactly what they are doing for the fool we have in office now
 

Everlasting-Grace

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Feb 19, 2024 — ... Trump Organization companies guilty of 17 felony counts related to tax fraud

Now that they have this in the books, they can legally go after him on criminal charges. 17 Felonies! That's 20 years in a Federal Cage with no time removed for good behavior. So he desperately needs to win this election or he could be gone for good.
so what should they do to the bidens who are guilty of tax fraud?
 

Pilgrimshope

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Suppose a person is a believer but for some reason is unable to perform "works". Does that mean that her/his faith is dead?
well played sir


“Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works,

and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

( here’s where he refers to how demons respond to Christ ) Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? ( they know God exists and is true and will torment the wicked but they continue on doing wickedness thier actions don’t bear out thier belief like it’s supposed to )


Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? ( genesis 22:16-18 posted below )

Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.”
‭‭James‬ ‭2:17-24, 26‬ ‭

“and said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:

that in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭22:16-18‬ ‭

that’s when God confirmed the covenant with Abraham when Abraham acted in faith.

Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? ( genesis 22:16-18 posted below )

“Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God”

God said it first and Abraham believed

“And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be. And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭15:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

later Abraham’s faith was put to the test and he acted upon it which fulfilled and confirmed Gods word to him beforehand

“And it came to pass after these things, that God did test Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am. And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭22:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

abraham obeyed and then God confirms the covenant promise based in n abrahams action of faith


By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:


Demons won’t repent of evil like many people won’t repent

“Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭2:20-23‬ ‭

knowing God exists and even that he died for us isnt faith it’s when we repent believe him and act upon his word all creation will one day understand and believe God exists they will see him but it won’t save them we need to wake up and begin to live like God is true

many don’t like to hear that but it’s true
 

FollowerofShiloh

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#92
No he was not proven guilty

The bank who gave him the load approved the loans, and they said he did nothing wrong and did everything by the book.

What the city of new york did is unconstitutional and is just a left wing fanatic and an AG who is overstepping their bounds..
It's not about the Bank but about Trump Organization companies in general.
 

PaulThomson

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I just did a quick search on Biden. His accountant revealed he made about 12 million in a couple books he wrote after being the vp. Not sure I buy that but the IRS confirms it and that makes his money legal.
How many individuals bought his books? I think the publisher paid him and advance to write the books . I doubt he sold 12 million dollars worth. It seems to be a form of money laundering to me. The publisher pays the poli for serviced rendered of pending, and other corporations buy up copies, again for services rendered or pending, and the books languish somewhere in storage.
 

PaulThomson

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Show me one person who at least did not have a minimum of at least 1 million dollars before they were elected to either the House, Senate, Commander in Chief?
Trump is the first and only ever billionaire. And back then he had 17 counts of fraud committed but "hidden.".
AOC and House Speaker Mike .
 

FollowerofShiloh

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How many individuals bought his books? I think the publisher paid him and advance to write the books . I doubt he sold 12 million dollars worth. It seems to be a form of money laundering to me. The publisher pays the poli for serviced rendered of pending, and other corporations buy up copies, again for services rendered or pending, and the books languish somewhere in storage.
Could be. I just read where the IRS claimed it was legit. So who knows.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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well played sir


“Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works,

and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

( here’s where he refers to how demons respond to Christ ) Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? ( they know God exists and is true and will torment the wicked but they continue on doing wickedness thier actions don’t bear out thier belief like it’s supposed to )


Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? ( genesis 22:16-18 posted below )

Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.”
‭‭James‬ ‭2:17-24, 26‬ ‭

“and said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:

that in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭22:16-18‬ ‭

that’s when God confirmed the covenant with Abraham when Abraham acted in faith.

Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? ( genesis 22:16-18 posted below )

“Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God”

God said it first and Abraham believed

“And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be. And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭15:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

later Abraham’s faith was put to the test and he acted upon it which fulfilled and confirmed Gods word to him beforehand

“And it came to pass after these things, that God did test Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am. And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭22:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

abraham obeyed and then God confirms the covenant promise based in n abrahams action of faith


By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:


Demons won’t repent of evil like many people won’t repent

“Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭2:20-23‬ ‭

knowing God exists and even that he died for us isnt faith it’s when we repent believe him and act upon his word all creation will one day understand and believe God exists they will see him but it won’t save them we need to wake up and begin to live like God is true

many don’t like to hear that but it’s true
Excellent Post (y)
 

Everlasting-Grace

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well played sir


“Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works,

and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

( here’s where he refers to how demons respond to Christ ) Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? ( they know God exists and is true and will torment the wicked but they continue on doing wickedness thier actions don’t bear out thier belief like it’s supposed to )


Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? ( genesis 22:16-18 posted below )

Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.”
‭‭James‬ ‭2:17-24, 26‬ ‭

“and said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:

that in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭22:16-18‬ ‭

that’s when God confirmed the covenant with Abraham when Abraham acted in faith.

Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? ( genesis 22:16-18 posted below )

“Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God”

God said it first and Abraham believed

“And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be. And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭15:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

later Abraham’s faith was put to the test and he acted upon it which fulfilled and confirmed Gods word to him beforehand

“And it came to pass after these things, that God did test Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am. And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭22:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

abraham obeyed and then God confirms the covenant promise based in n abrahams action of faith


By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:


Demons won’t repent of evil like many people won’t repent

“Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭2:20-23‬ ‭

knowing God exists and even that he died for us isnt faith it’s when we repent believe him and act upon his word all creation will one day understand and believe God exists they will see him but it won’t save them we need to wake up and begin to live like God is true

many don’t like to hear that but it’s true
This does not support salvation by Grace plus works.

James asked the question. this is where people studying james should start.

14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him?

You see, he is not contradicting Paul. He is in effect responding to the gospel that Paul taught. Can faith save this person?

1. He asked. what does it profit - to-ophelos - what advantage, what benefit
2. He did not say they had faith, he said they says they had faith
- says - lege - to say, to tell, to speak, to assert
3. He said they had no works. This is very important. Because we need to interpret it as it says, They had no works. He did not say they had works, then stopped. He did not say they had a few works. but not enough. He did not even say they had one work. He said they HAVE NO WORKS.
4. Then he asked the simple question. Is this FAITH they claim to have able to save them? The answer is no

why?

Because they had no works? no this is not the answer
Because they had weak faith? No, this is not the answer
Because they had no faith or quite literally their faith was dead.

They did not LOSE salvation. But in reality, since they NEVER had true faith, they were never saved, They did believe there was one God. which was good. But as James said, even demons believe.. Mental agreement is not enough

so people who try to use this passage to support that we need to work to earn salvation. Should question what this passage is really saying

By the way, I think it is quite rude for you to keep ignoring me, then talking behind me like I am not even here.
 

Everlasting-Grace

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It's not about the Bank but about Trump Organization companies in general.
Fraud would be against the bank.

Sorry my friend. You are buying a false narrative. No one else would have been found guilty of what trump was charged with.. Trump was charged because they are out to get him any way they can.

wake up
 
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