Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

[iamsoandso]

Russia is into missile tech and jamming. And game-changer weapons like those mega-nuke torpedoes.

Nobody is a more dangerous adversary than Russia. The west has been foolish to poke the bear.

Rules based order says the west. We make the rules and y'all take the orders or you get NATO'ed.

Protection and intimidation racket. One mob boss vs another mob boss in a turf war. Same as it always was.

Or you could look at it the other way where when we were sending US munitions to the Ukrainians they drove the Russians all the way back to the original lines and were hitting the Russian ships in the Black sea... Then when we stopped sending the US funding and weapons it took it's turn. I figure it like this if Ukrainians who were new to our weapons could use them the way they were before we cut them off I would go as far as to say that those same weapons in the hands of the US Military who were trained to use them would have Putin crying for his Mama.

 

[cv5]

Or you could look at it the other way where when we were sending US munitions to the Ukrainians they drove the Russians all the way back to the original lines and were hitting the Russian ships in the Black sea... Then when we stopped sending the US funding and weapons it took it's turn. I figure it like this if Ukrainians who were new to our weapons could use them the way they were before we cut them off I would go as far as to say that those same weapons in the hands of the US Military who were trained to use them would have Putin crying for his Mama.

Defeating Russia in a land war on their own border? Utterly preposterous and a fools gambit. Bloody delusional.

Frankly I'm astonished that Russia has been so even-handed in the matter. And yes, they pulled out early on because
negotiations were supposedly underway. But as usual the West reneged, threw peace under the bus, offered lots of nose candy, massive bribes and delusions of victory to the dull witted druggie lap dog Z.

The war is lost. All the chatter says so, including the latest press puffery from Stoltenberg, who is now calling for negotiations.

All those dead Ukrainians did not amount to a hill of beans. Ukraine has been destroyed. What a waste.

 

[iamsoandso]

Defeating Russia in a land war on their own border? Utterly preposterous and a fools gambit. Bloody delusional.

Frankly I'm astonished that Russia has been so even-handed in the matter. And yes, they pulled out early on because
negotiations were supposedly underway. But as usual the West reneged, threw peace under the bus, offered lots of nose candy, massive bribes and delusions of victory to the dull witted druggie lap dog Z.

The war is lost. All the chatter says so, including the latest press puffery from Stoltenberg, who is now calling for negotiations.

All those dead Ukrainians did not amount to a hill of beans. Ukraine has been destroyed. What a waste.

Well I agree with the Ukrainian war being lost part,,,but you really should hope that those in your military can use those weapons like they were trained to because unlike the logistics not being in place to invade the US Putin defiantly is setting his cards up to play poker in Europe so whose next?

 

[cv5]

so whose next?

NATO needs a boogeyman, lest their existence be jeopardized.

$$$ War is a Racket $$$
-Smedley Butler

A good read. Readily available on Amazon.

 

[cv5]

PAMP It: Costco Selling Up To $200 Million In Gold Bars Per Month, Wells Fargo Estimates

Clownbux not so desirable nowadays?

https://www.zerohedge.com/commoditi...-200-million-gold-bars-month-wells-fargo-says

 

[iamsoandso]

NATO needs a boogeyman, lest their existence be jeopardized.

$$$ War is a Racket $$$
-Smedley Butler
,
A good read. Readily available on Amazon.

lol, no really if you look at a map of say the Gulf of Mexico you'll notice it's a big round bowel shape,,,which means in a time of war any navy vessels that don't get to the Atlantic or through the Panama Canal would end up trapped(notice we don't have but a few massive naval bases in the GOM?)

Russia faces a different hurdle but on a larger scale in that for instance in the Black Sea(think Ukraine war,Crimia,Georgian war ect.) the entire Black Sea fleet is in a round bowel with only one way out. In a time of war if they stay in the black sea then their trapped,,,if they can get through Bosphorus in Turkey then their again trapped in the Mediterranean Sea because they have to either sail through the straight of Gibraltar or the Suez Canal(those are the only ways in or out)... That's why I'm saying Russia is establishing Naval bases in places like Syria,Yemen ect.(NATO has them surrounded already all they have to do is blockade the exits)...

here's a map you can zoom in and out on and find the exits from the Black Sea I'm referring to.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewe...US&ll=21.17200177607363,48.08724934504045&z=3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_naval_facility_in_Tartus

 

[cv5]

lol, no really if you look at a map of say the Gulf of Mexico you'll notice it's a big round bowel shape,,,which means in a time of war any navy vessels that don't get to the Atlantic or through the Panama Canal would end up trapped(notice we don't have but a few massive naval bases in the GOM?)

Russia faces a different hurdle but on a larger scale in that for instance in the Black Sea(think Ukraine war,Crimia,Georgian war ect.) the entire Black Sea fleet is in a round bowel with only one way out. In a time of war if they stay in the black sea then their trapped,,,if they can get through Bosphorus in Turkey then their again trapped in the Mediterranean Sea because they have to either sail through the straight of Gibraltar or the Suez Canal(those are the only ways in or out)... That's why I'm saying Russia is establishing Naval bases in places like Syria,Yemen ect.(NATO has them surrounded already all they have to do is blockade the exits)...

here's a map you can zoom in and out on and find the exits from the Black Sea I'm referring to.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1h5ZK8Z4Ft06VV4ifg6D2BZqbV3o&hl=en_US&ll=21.17200177607363,48.08724934504045&z=3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_naval_facility_in_Tartus

I was suprised at the incompetence of the Russian military (general staff). They took stupid careless losses.
But their resolve is not to be questioned. They are relentless and inching toward their goals.

Minimum 400K Ukrainian soldiers have died. An absolutely massive loss. Russia lost probably 20% of that figure.

Its all a waste and the joke is on the hapless helpless civilians. They pay for the war, suffer because of it, and then they die in it.
The elite puppeteers? Fine dining and jet setting around the globe in their hypocritical con-fabs. With plenty of nose candy for all. CEO's bonuses uppa.

Come Lord Jesus and end this madness.

 

[ZNP]

I was suprised at the incompetence of the Russian military (general staff). They took stupid careless losses.
But their resolve is not to be questioned. They are relentless and inching toward their goals.

Minimum 400K Ukrainian soldiers have died. An absolutely massive loss. Russia lost probably 20% of that figure.

Its all a waste and the joke is on the hapless helpless civilians. They pay for the war, suffer because of it, and then they die in it.
The elite puppeteers? Fine dining and jet setting around the globe in their hypocritical con-fabs. With plenty of nose candy for all. CEO's bonuses uppa.

Come Lord Jesus and end this madness.

I think the early losses were because they cleaned out their prisons. The military was the parole option, and rather than mothball equipment they used it so that the west would use up their munitions.

 

[cv5]

I think the early losses were because they cleaned out their prisons. The military was the parole option, and rather than mothball equipment they used it so that the west would use up their munitions.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1777846364539351426

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1777951922265210883

 

[cv5]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1778030176083038517

 

[iamsoandso]

I was suprised at the incompetence of the Russian military (general staff). They took stupid careless losses.
But their resolve is not to be questioned. They are relentless and inching toward their goals.

Minimum 400K Ukrainian soldiers have died. An absolutely massive loss. Russia lost probably 20% of that figure.

Its all a waste and the joke is on the hapless helpless civilians. They pay for the war, suffer because of it, and then they die in it.
The elite puppeteers? Fine dining and jet setting around the globe in their hypocritical con-fabs. With plenty of nose candy for all. CEO's bonuses uppa.

Come Lord Jesus and end this madness.

So I'm curious because your fixated still on "Ukraine verses Russia" as if that was the whole war from beginning to end,,done deal now that it's coming to an end ect. ... Why I'm saying that is that your tailing up the losses between the two as if you think it was the "entire war" when it was actually only one battle,(probably the smallest battle) in a much much larger war. It's all in your first sentence where you speak of the incompetence of the Russian Military and so it makes me curious if you realized why I gave you the link to the map,,,Did you find the Sea of Marmara on it and realize it's in a nation that has been a member of NATO for about 72-73 years now?

 

[cv5]

as if that was the whole war from beginning to end,,done deal now that it's coming to an end ect. ...

No. Not even close to what I believe regarding the ultimate trajectory of this war.

The ultimate trajectory is Ezekiel 38. Nothing could be more obvious.

 

[ZNP]

No. Not even close to what I believe regarding the ultimate trajectory of this war.

The ultimate trajectory is Ezekiel 38. Nothing could be more obvious.

True but it seems we will get to Isaiah 17 first. The problem with Ezekiel 38 is referring to "the land of unwalled villages". This is why many think this happens at the end of the millennial kingdom. However, pattern is prophecy. I think the land of unwalled villages refers to the US which is where 49% of Jews live and should be viewed as the ten tribes while Israel today is where another 49% of Jews live and should be viewed as Judah and Benjamin. So then prior to the millennial kingdom we'll see Ezekiel 38 fulfilled in the US and after it will be fulfilled in Israel.

 

[iamsoandso]

No. Not even close to what I believe regarding the ultimate trajectory of this war.

The ultimate trajectory is Ezekiel 38. Nothing could be more obvious.

Yep it's an old,old,old geographical issue where one could work their way from the current Ukraine/Russian war,,,back to 1952 when Turkey became a NATO member(started the process of the USSR's demise),,then to ww2,then ww1,,, you could even go back in time to The Saite(Sonchis of Sait) and exchange the names Straight of Gibraltar to "pillars of Hercules" and Athena where it was then too muddy to pass with Turkey and figure out what Putin is up to, he's surrounding Turkey and preparing to conquer it, and is why he's setting up naval bases in Syria and Abkhazia for the next phase in the special operation... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67625450 It probably scared Trump to death for the Pentagon to explain that to him which is probably why he started preaching the "leave NATO now" sermon ,(he realized team US was up at bat next,lol)...

 

[cv5]

True but it seems we will get to Isaiah 17 first. The problem with Ezekiel 38 is referring to "the land of unwalled villages". This is why many think this happens at the end of the millennial kingdom. However, pattern is prophecy. I think the land of unwalled villages refers to the US which is where 49% of Jews live and should be viewed as the ten tribes while Israel today is where another 49% of Jews live and should be viewed as Judah and Benjamin. So then prior to the millennial kingdom we'll see Ezekiel 38 fulfilled in the US and after it will be fulfilled in Israel.

Not my view. Ezek 37, 38 & 39 are in sequence and a package deal. Note all of the "sevens" in 39. Happens during the trib most likely.

Eze 39:7
So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel.

concatenates with this:

Gen 45:1
Then Joseph could not refrain himself before all them that stood by him; and he cried, Cause every man to go out from me. And there stood no man with him, while Joseph made himself known unto his brethren.

Act 7:13
And at the second time Joseph was made known to his brethren; and Joseph's kindred was made known unto Pharaoh.

 

[ZNP]

Not my view. Ezek 37, 38 & 39 are in sequence and a package deal. Note all of the "sevens" in 39. Happens during the trib most likely.

Eze 39:7
So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel.

concatenates with this:

Gen 45:1
Then Joseph could not refrain himself before all them that stood by him; and he cried, Cause every man to go out from me. And there stood no man with him, while Joseph made himself known unto his brethren.

Act 7:13
And at the second time Joseph was made known to his brethren; and Joseph's kindred was made known unto Pharaoh.

Perhaps you didn't understand what I said. I see that pattern is prophecy. So what was is what will be. In the tribulation I think you will have the Ezekiel 37-39, but you can't consider Israel today to be "the land of unwalled cities". Instead I see that as a reference to the USA where half of the Jews live. Before Israel was divided into two kingdoms, the northern tribes and in the South they had Judah and Benjamin. Today that is USA and Israel. The first kingdom to fall was the Northern one, only after that did you have the siege on Jerusalem in the South. Likewise the that is a picture of the tribulation with the first to fall being the USA and after that the focus will be on Israel. Right now the USA is the land of unwalled villages, so that fits the prophecy. At the end of the millennial reign Israel will be the land of unwalled villages and we are told explicitly but briefly that there will be another short war then as well between Satan and Israel.

 

[ZNP]

Is Trump a golden calf?

 

[cv5]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1778133569690366446

 

[Susanna]

Is Trump a golden calf?

Trump is an old bull with no horns left. 😂

 

[JohnDB]

https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1778110640298795441