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True, but the advisor or consulter is the son, and God is the object of the consulting.
“And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.”
Galatians 4:6 KJV
“Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?”
1 Corinthians 3:16 KJV
“But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.”
Romans 8:9 KJV
“What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?”
1 Corinthians 6:19 KJV
“your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost”
“God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, “
the Spirit of God dwell in you….the Spirit of Christ,
Are these references to one spirit ?
“ The Holy Ghost , the spirit of christ , the spirit of God , the spirit of Gods son “
“There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.”
Ephesians 4:4, 6 KJV
“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.”
1 Timothy 2:5-6 KJV
Jesus is the fulness of God in bodily form
“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
Colossians 2:9 KJV
Father son holy ghost in one person
One person bodily more specifically
“For in him ( singular person ) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead( father son holy ghost ) bodily.” ( in flesh and blood )
Colossians 2:9 KJV
“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God ( singular but complete ) was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
“So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.”
Mark 16:19 KJV
when we try to make Jesus the Christ only a third of the “ trinity “ we’re looking at it as of God is three rather than seeing Jesus is all three in one manifest fully before us in the gospel
“I and my Father are one.”
John 10:30 KJV
“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
1 John 5:20 KJV
Either way it says what it says about the son
“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.”
Isaiah 9:6-7
That's what it says but the depth of meaning still escapes most people.
Yes I agree the couple verses tbat state a trinity concept are grown and then people try to explain what it means rather then realizing the entire Bible explains what it means and who it’s talking about
“Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: ( see he’s God the creator and also became the first creature one and the same expanding into his own creation himself in order to redeem it from sin and death )
for by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: and he is before all things, and by him all things consist. ( this can only be speaking if God himself created by him ( father ) for him ( son )
And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;”
Colossians 1:15-19 KJV
before jesus was born
“The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD's:
But the earth hath he given to the children of men.”
Psalm 115:16 KJV
after jesus the son of man was born
“Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God;”
John 13:3 KJV
after he was born a son of man lives and died sinless and rose up from death
“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
Matthew 28:18-20
He has to become a man because earth was given to man and he doesn’t go back on his word so he fulfilled the requirements of man himself becoming one of us the hiers of creation from the beginning
Yes.
There had to be an answer to both sin and death which came into the earth by Adam. Then, there had to be a way for all men to receive the promises given to Abraham.
ה כִּי-יֶלֶד יֻלַּד-לָנוּ, בֵּן נִתַּן-לָנוּ, וַתְּהִי הַמִּשְׂרָה, עַל-שִׁכְמוֹ; וַיִּקְרָא שְׁמוֹ פֶּלֶא יוֹעֵץ, אֵל גִּבּוֹר, אֲבִי-עַד, שַׂר-שָׁלוֹם.
5 For a child is born unto us, a son is given unto us; and the government is upon his shoulder; and his name is called Pele-joez-el-gibbor-Abi-ad-sar-shalom;
Pele-joez-el-gibbor-Abi-ad-sar-shalom = "Wonderful in counsel is God the mighty, the Everlasting Father, the Ruler of Peace"
5 For a child is born unto us, a son is given unto us; and the government is upon his shoulder; and his name is called Pele-joez-el-gibbor-Abi-ad-sar-shalom;
Pele-joez-el-gibbor-Abi-ad-sar-shalom = "Wonderful in counsel is God the mighty, the Everlasting Father, the Ruler of Peace"
Those words were not meant to be hyphenated in such a way. Participles have Subjects and Objects like sentences in all languages.
The messenger/angel of God who consult the Father who is Prince of the peace.Yet you say Jesus was an angel.
You said angels could be men if they were not of God.
You contradict yourself...
And besides, there were angels sent by God, who manifested as men.