The 'ELECT' vs 'Free-Choice'
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No need for you to get snarky! My goodness, please restrain your ill temper.
I am trying to find out in this moment where you stand: is it a crazy idea that people believe
they have no choice in the matter of believing, or does irresistible grace sufficiently explain
the idea that they believe they had no other choice but to believe? It cannot be both.
I am trying to find out in this moment where you stand: is it a crazy idea that people believe
they have no choice in the matter of believing, or does irresistible grace sufficiently explain
the idea that they believe they had no other choice but to believe? It cannot be both.
I had to sell my last horse. He was so beautiful and had just the best disposition too. drats
the more I get to know how you think, the more I....miss that horse
I should stop with the sarcasim tho and you haven't heard the half of it.
I usually refer to a certain phrase in Proverbs when I do respond that way tho......but I think you know that I am actually finding what you are saying funny, the way you flip flop all over the place while trying to connect the dots you drew yourself
while there are actually several logical fallacies that could be applied to your tactics, here is one that you seem to employ regularly
11. Loaded Question Fallacy
A loaded question phrases a question in such a way that the answer is already supposed. The other person must defend against an accusation couched in a question.
obviously I am not angry nor is your intended jibe going to make it happen. try to be nicer
the more I get to know how you think, the more I....miss that horse
I should stop with the sarcasim tho and you haven't heard the half of it.
I usually refer to a certain phrase in Proverbs when I do respond that way tho......but I think you know that I am actually finding what you are saying funny, the way you flip flop all over the place while trying to connect the dots you drew yourself
while there are actually several logical fallacies that could be applied to your tactics, here is one that you seem to employ regularly
11. Loaded Question Fallacy
A loaded question phrases a question in such a way that the answer is already supposed. The other person must defend against an accusation couched in a question.
- Example: “When was the last time you committed a crime?”
obviously I am not angry nor is your intended jibe going to make it happen. try to be nicer
Chosen = Elect
And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified. What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things? Who shall bring a charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies. Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? As it is written: "For Your sake we are killed all day long; We are accounted as sheep for the slaughter." Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
- Romans 8:28-39
And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified. What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things? Who shall bring a charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies. Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? As it is written: "For Your sake we are killed all day long; We are accounted as sheep for the slaughter." Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
- Romans 8:28-39
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She's not angry, but you are definitely trying to save face. Just admit you're wrong and be gracious about it. Smh....
You know you're still our sister in Christ, right? This doesn't have to end badly. i still love you and I bet @Niki7 does too!
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You know you're still our sister in Christ, right? This doesn't have to end badly. i still love you and I bet @Niki7 does too!
🥧
I had to sell my last horse. He was so beautiful and had just the best disposition too. drats
the more I get to know how you think, the more I....miss that horse
I should stop with the sarcasim tho and you haven't heard the half of it.
I usually refer to a certain phrase in Proverbs when I do respond that way tho......but I think you know that I am actually finding what you are saying funny, the way you flip flop all over the place while trying to connect the dots you drew yourself
while there are actually several logical fallacies that could be applied to your tactics, here is one that you seem to employ regularly
11. Loaded Question Fallacy
A loaded question phrases a question in such a way that the answer is already supposed. The other person must defend against an accusation couched in a question.
obviously I am not angry nor is your intended jibe going to make it happen. try to be nicer
the more I get to know how you think, the more I....miss that horse
I should stop with the sarcasim tho and you haven't heard the half of it.
I usually refer to a certain phrase in Proverbs when I do respond that way tho......but I think you know that I am actually finding what you are saying funny, the way you flip flop all over the place while trying to connect the dots you drew yourself
while there are actually several logical fallacies that could be applied to your tactics, here is one that you seem to employ regularly
11. Loaded Question Fallacy
A loaded question phrases a question in such a way that the answer is already supposed. The other person must defend against an accusation couched in a question.
- Example: “When was the last time you committed a crime?”
obviously I am not angry nor is your intended jibe going to make it happen. try to be nicer
It seems you are introducing two different topics. Irresistible Grace does not cover both. Irresistible Grace has to do with a person's Regeneration by the Holy Spirit. Which will lead to Repentance and Faith but not apart from the Gospel message.
The inability to believe, is covered under "Spiritual Depravity." That is all mankind died spiritually in the Fall and will experience physical death. Thus, Regeneration is required before one is able to understand the Gospel message and move of their own will towards Christ.
Does this answer it for you? If not, I will take more questions.
The inability to believe, is covered under "Spiritual Depravity." That is all mankind died spiritually in the Fall and will experience physical death. Thus, Regeneration is required before one is able to understand the Gospel message and move of their own will towards Christ.
Does this answer it for you? If not, I will take more questions.