Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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ZNP

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If you really wanted to destroy America you would...

1. Surrender our energy independence

Reduce the leases on new oil and gas

Make war on coal and nuclear power

Cancel the arctic oil and gas field.

Over regulate and demonize frackers

2. Print trillions of dollars of new currency as lockdowns end to create unbearable inflation

3. End America's physical boundaries and allow 3 million illegal aliens to enter the country each year.

4. Destroy public trust in elections and weaponize the DOJ

5. Redefine crime as rich man's crime vs poor man's necessity.

6. Identify people by their appearance -- seek to be a victim and make money off of victimhood

7. Devalue the US abroad

8. Neuter the first amendment, silence unwanted speech by calling it hate speech

9. Demonize half of America as Fascists and domestic terrorists

10. Do not mention the origins of the Covid virus

 

studier

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BTW.....it is you that quoted him directly, used his as a scholarly reference, and supplied a link to his (cough cough) "work".
For what it may or may not be worth to you, the site you linked above also links to Michael Heiser.
So, once again, for clarity, and per the above, it was your linked site that for some reason has among other linked references, a link to Heiser.

If not for the reference you supplied for me to look at, I would not have seen or mentioned Heiser in this thread, even though he and I apparently both agreed that the digital world (he mentioned Facebook) is full of participants who in effect are claiming omniscience re: some things eschatological. This is not uncommon for the topic.

Some of such claimants purport to have accomplished extensive writings - likely also "irrefutable" ones - which remain hidden because they don't care what anybody thinks of them.

Why don't you find a care for your siblings and those who you could draw to Christ in these end of days - maybe do a blog like @ZNP?
 

ZNP

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Senator Warns Digital ID Could Link With ‘Misinformation’ Bill, Digital Currency

https://www.theepochtimes.com/world...oReport&src_src=partner&src_cmp=BonginoReport

Fears of a social credit system in Australia have been relayed by political figures during multiple rallies against the digital ID on the weekend.

Australia has passed a new Digital ID bill.

A ‘Social Credit’ System
During a speech in Sydney, New South Wales state Libertarian Party MP John Ruddick said the national ID was akin to a Beijing-style “social credit” system, and that it would not remain voluntary for long.

The Beast system is rising out of the sea.
 

cv5

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If you really wanted to destroy America you would...

1. Surrender our energy independence

Reduce the leases on new oil and gas

Make war on coal and nuclear power

Cancel the arctic oil and gas field.

Over regulate and demonize frackers

2. Print trillions of dollars of new currency as lockdowns end to create unbearable inflation

3. End America's physical boundaries and allow 3 million illegal aliens to enter the country each year.

4. Destroy public trust in elections and weaponize the DOJ

5. Redefine crime as rich man's crime vs poor man's necessity.

6. Identify people by their appearance -- seek to be a victim and make money off of victimhood

7. Devalue the US abroad

8. Neuter the first amendment, silence unwanted speech by calling it hate speech

9. Demonize half of America as Fascists and domestic terrorists

10. Do not mention the origins of the Covid virus

The time is indeed near.....

 

ZNP

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MAJOR PROPHETIC REVELATION: DONALD TRUMPS EVIL ABRAHAM ACCORDS 1335 DAYS LATER AS ISRAEL TURNS 76

 

Nehemiah6

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"Providing DA Willis with the option to simply remove Wade confounds logic and is contrary to Georgia law..."
Who cares about the law any more? The more lawless you are the more you are praised. If you can allow 20 million illegals to lawlessly invade your country and demand royal treatment, everything else pales in comparison. The Supreme Court, the majority of judges and DAs, and the whole law enforcement and justice system in the USA is one lawless mess. This lawlessness began with Obama and continues under him through Biden (a puppet).
 

cv5

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Who cares about the law any more? The more lawless you are the more you are praised. If you can allow 20 million illegals to lawlessly invade your country and demand royal treatment, everything else pales in comparison. The Supreme Court, the majority of judges and DAs, and the whole law enforcement and justice system in the USA is one lawless mess. This lawlessness began with Obama and continues under him through Biden (a puppet).
"I think McAfee understood perfectly that his decision would accomplish two things:
-get him off the hook with voters who are Fani supporters, and ...
-result in a review by a higher court ending with his having to declare a mistrial."
 
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This is a question for any and all Trump/MAGA supporters. Is there any line he could cross that would cause you to stop supporting him? In other words, is your support for him unconditional? I'm just wondering if you've made up your mind to support him no matter what.
well here is the original op

truth is, I believe people are more against the current denial of reality going on, then they are for someone

THE someone they will be for, is THE someone who will put the breaks on and do a 180 or at least as close to it as possible

seems that person is actually Trump and you don't have to love him or make excuses for him
 

PennEd

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We live in a Clockwork Orange Country and society. Where evil is good and good is evil.

Growing up,
Russia or the Soviet Union, was the unequivocal enemy, and their people had no freedom and were terrorized by their government.

The USA was THE bastion of freedom and opportunity.

Look at what some Americans are doing and tell me what you think. Here’s some excerpts from the article:

The American Men Seeking the American Dream—in Russia
Once, they put their hopes in Donald Trump. Now they’re looking to Putin. ‘I often say it feels like our positive vision of 1950s America.’

“I would say that Russia is becoming a bastion of Christianity and that America is becoming the opposite of this.”

When people ask him what it’s like living in Russia, Rose said, “I often say it feels like our positive vision of 1950s America.”
Rose resides at the nexus of a growing movement of Americans chasing the American dream. In Russia.

FULL ARTICLE:
https://www.thefp.com/p/american-men-seeking-american-dream-in-russia
 

cv5

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We live in a Clockwork Orange Country and society. Where evil is good and good is evil.

Growing up,
Russia or the Soviet Union, was the unequivocal enemy, and their people had no freedom and were terrorized by their government.

The USA was THE bastion of freedom and opportunity.

Look at what some Americans are doing and tell me what you think. Here’s some excerpts from the article:

The American Men Seeking the American Dream—in Russia
Once, they put their hopes in Donald Trump. Now they’re looking to Putin. ‘I often say it feels like our positive vision of 1950s America.’

“I would say that Russia is becoming a bastion of Christianity and that America is becoming the opposite of this.”

When people ask him what it’s like living in Russia, Rose said, “I often say it feels like our positive vision of 1950s America.”
Rose resides at the nexus of a growing movement of Americans chasing the American dream. In Russia.

FULL ARTICLE:
https://www.thefp.com/p/american-men-seeking-american-dream-in-russia
Quite an eye-opener huh?


 

Nehemiah6

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“I would say that Russia is becoming a bastion of Christianity and that America is becoming the opposite of this.”
Putin is seriously opposed to what is happening in the West, so this is probably true. Whether there is real freedom might be different, but as long as Russia has given people a chance to be free from all the Western nonsense and promotion of evil, then that might suffice for many. So the reason the West is waging this proxy war with Russia is to avoid losing its hegemony in the world. But that is already gone. Yet the West is desperate and also delusional.
 
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Replying to the OP…. firstly, i don’t understand how we watched the 2020 election be stolen with little to no pushback, we did receive pieces of evidence over the last 4 years from various states proving fraud yet no real investigation and here comes 2024, i just don’t understand why we have to put ourselves through a another fixed election 🤔

as for Trump, i’m very uncomfortable with some of the statements he made about Israel .most concerning is that he thinks “antisemitism” deserves the death penalty. That statement comes from the Noahide Laws and i’ve been wrestling for years with the idea that Trump is the last piece of the Zionist puzzle… of course he is the only option if you are going to cast a vote and i really liked what his staffer said about banning porn, it’s that kind of leadership that we need to bring this country back to some moral compass .

john F kennedy was the last real american president and he said that we needed to dismantle the Israeli nuclear program and remove all occultist, secret societies and zionists in order to have a chance of preserving our country, we failed miserably and we have been in serious decline by the decade going back to WW2 but there was a hope that Trump would pick up where kennedy left off but now im not so sure.

i just really hope that Trump is supportin nbbb