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Well, does anyone see the reality of the resurrection? I see this, I could not see it, until I finalized by God in through Son I am reconciled at his one time willing sacrificial death, that took away sin from Father's sight for us to now enter into his courts freely and ask for the new life in thankfulness over Son doing what is now done at that cross to cross over in new life in the resurrected Christ. we are now by God through Son, Jesus 100% forgiven by his done work for us on that cross. (John 19:30)
How can I or anyone else ever see the reality of the risen Son, without seeing the finality of the cross being reconciled from God through Son first? (2 Corinthians 5:17-20)
2 Peter 1:6-9
King James Version
6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
Without the reality it is done b y Son, we are forgiven, even if one continues in sin. Once one finalizes this truth in Son for us, I bet you stop the sin, you are trying to not do again, that has got you in bondage over doing it again and again is an error in our new born, being from God new people we are by God for us through Son to us all, y'all
Time to finalize this truth between God and you too, and then see new and grow up in this truth into maturity over it. It is in truth between God and you, not me and you or anyone else and you.
Thank you
What about Acts 10,11, where Peter was led to go to the Gentile house and preach the word of God to them?
Where they got saved by God through Peter, without water Baptism? Peter did say afterwards to them. well, now who can refuse water Baptism? Yet saw it not necessary to get saved by water baptism.
Then in Acts 10, he tells the other disciples about this happening without any rituals, just beleif, as he saw them get saved by belief only
Wow, woe is me y'all
How can I or anyone else ever see the reality of the risen Son, without seeing the finality of the cross being reconciled from God through Son first? (2 Corinthians 5:17-20)
2 Peter 1:6-9
King James Version
6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
Without the reality it is done b y Son, we are forgiven, even if one continues in sin. Once one finalizes this truth in Son for us, I bet you stop the sin, you are trying to not do again, that has got you in bondage over doing it again and again is an error in our new born, being from God new people we are by God for us through Son to us all, y'all
Time to finalize this truth between God and you too, and then see new and grow up in this truth into maturity over it. It is in truth between God and you, not me and you or anyone else and you.
Thank you
What about Acts 10,11, where Peter was led to go to the Gentile house and preach the word of God to them?
Where they got saved by God through Peter, without water Baptism? Peter did say afterwards to them. well, now who can refuse water Baptism? Yet saw it not necessary to get saved by water baptism.
Then in Acts 10, he tells the other disciples about this happening without any rituals, just beleif, as he saw them get saved by belief only
Wow, woe is me y'all
Acts 8 presumably implies many cases of people who not only did not receive the Holy Spirit immediately in response to their baptisms, but to their belief as well
Because these things, outlined in Hebrews 6:1-2, are responded to by God cohesively, and are not individually sufficient, with only one biblical exception (perhaps)
Consider how many people are implied by "Samaria" here
Acts 8
12But when they believed Philip as he preached the gospel of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. 13Even Simon himself believed and was baptized. He followed Philip closely and was astounded by the great signs and miracles he observed.
14When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent Peter and John to them. 15On their arrival, they prayed for them to receive the Holy Spirit. 16For the Holy Spirit had not yet fallen upon any of them; they had simply been baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus. 17Then Peter and John laid their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.
18When Simon saw that the Spirit was given through the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money. 19“Give me this power as well,” he said, “so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.”
Did these people receive the Holy Spirit the moment they believed?
Because these things, outlined in Hebrews 6:1-2, are responded to by God cohesively, and are not individually sufficient, with only one biblical exception (perhaps)
Consider how many people are implied by "Samaria" here
Acts 8
12But when they believed Philip as he preached the gospel of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. 13Even Simon himself believed and was baptized. He followed Philip closely and was astounded by the great signs and miracles he observed.
14When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent Peter and John to them. 15On their arrival, they prayed for them to receive the Holy Spirit. 16For the Holy Spirit had not yet fallen upon any of them; they had simply been baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus. 17Then Peter and John laid their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.
18When Simon saw that the Spirit was given through the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money. 19“Give me this power as well,” he said, “so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.”
Did these people receive the Holy Spirit the moment they believed?
According to the word of God having one's sins remitted/washed away is an essential element of the NT rebirth:
"And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt there,
Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.
And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord." Acts 22:12-16
"And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt there,
Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.
And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord." Acts 22:12-16
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You oppose what is clearly stated in the word of God. And people need to hear the truth; obedience to the command of water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ is for remission of one's sin.
Why tarriest thou, arise and be baptized and wash away thy sin calling upon the name of the Lord. (Acts 22:16) Ananias did not say: because your sins have already been washed away.
Why tarriest thou, arise and be baptized and wash away thy sin calling upon the name of the Lord. (Acts 22:16) Ananias did not say: because your sins have already been washed away.
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Ananias' command to Paul refutes what you believe. He told Paul to wash away his sins in baptism calling upon the name of the Lord. (Acts 22:16)
As to Mark 16:16. Those who hear the gospel must believe it, in it's entirety. And that includes believing that sins are remitted in obedience to God's command to be baptized. Why? Because God said so. It is those who place their trust in Jesus who enter the waters of baptism in faith that receive what God promised. (Mark 16:15-16)
As to Mark 16:16. Those who hear the gospel must believe it, in it's entirety. And that includes believing that sins are remitted in obedience to God's command to be baptized. Why? Because God said so. It is those who place their trust in Jesus who enter the waters of baptism in faith that receive what God promised. (Mark 16:15-16)
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Well paul certainly did not contradict himself. When he claimed we are saved by Grace not of works..
Your sin is washed by the blood of Christ, when you are baptised into his death by God himself (romans 6)
lets put it this way, if you want to merit salvation God gave you the standard. You must obey every word and not break one command.
If you have not done this, your ability to merit salvation is gone and done with.
You must rely on Gods grace.
now you can be like the Pharisees and claim you are saving yourself by your works, or you can be like paul and consider all yoru work dung, and place your faith in christ.
I pray you chose wisely
Your sin is washed by the blood of Christ, when you are baptised into his death by God himself (romans 6)
lets put it this way, if you want to merit salvation God gave you the standard. You must obey every word and not break one command.
If you have not done this, your ability to merit salvation is gone and done with.
You must rely on Gods grace.
now you can be like the Pharisees and claim you are saving yourself by your works, or you can be like paul and consider all yoru work dung, and place your faith in christ.
I pray you chose wisely
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Notice what Peter told Cornelius and the others in Acts 10:43: "To him (Jesus) give all the prophets witness, that THROUGH HIS NAME whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins." Now consider the connection the Bible reveals concerning the name of Jesus and remission of sin. "... be baptized everyone of you in the NAME OF JESUS for REMISSION OF SIN... (Acts 2:38, Luke 24:47) The entire account makes it clear that along with being indwelt by the Holy Ghost the group had to obey the command of water baptism in the name of Jesus in order for their sins to be remitted. (Acts 10:43-48)
This same truth is revealed time and again in scripture. (Acts 2:38-41, 8:12-18, 9:17-18, 10:43-48, 19:1-7, 22:16) The experiences recorded, parallel what Jesus said; UNLESS a man is born of water and of Spirit he CANNOT enter the kingdom of Heaven. Clearly believers in Jesus experience the NT rebirth after being indwelt with the Holy Ghost and having their sins remitted upon obedience to water baptism in His name.
This same truth is revealed time and again in scripture. (Acts 2:38-41, 8:12-18, 9:17-18, 10:43-48, 19:1-7, 22:16) The experiences recorded, parallel what Jesus said; UNLESS a man is born of water and of Spirit he CANNOT enter the kingdom of Heaven. Clearly believers in Jesus experience the NT rebirth after being indwelt with the Holy Ghost and having their sins remitted upon obedience to water baptism in His name.
Acts 22:16 records the instruction Paul received from Ananias concerning water baptism in the name of Jesus in order to wash away his sins.
Romans 6:3-6 Paul's explanation of what occurs upon obedience to water baptism.
Acts 19:1-6 Paul rebaptizes 12 Ephesians in the name of the Lord Jesus (water baptism) and assists in their receiving the Holy Ghost as well.
Romans 6:3-6 Paul's explanation of what occurs upon obedience to water baptism.
Acts 19:1-6 Paul rebaptizes 12 Ephesians in the name of the Lord Jesus (water baptism) and assists in their receiving the Holy Ghost as well.
Water baptism is not part of the law. The command to be baptized in the name of Jesus for remission of sin was begun in the NT. Those who obey the command are in fact placing their trust in Jesus' death, burial and resurrection. And in fact are buried with Him wherein their sins are destroyed. Paul explains this in Romans 6:3-6
so, sorry you and I disagree, therefore I see from your view to disagree With you.
If you are not good with this deep truth of there is only one Baptism and it is not water anymore as was through John the Baptist, to announce to the first Chosen their Messiah has arrived. That they chose to not beleive then. Therefore the Gospel came over to the Gentile, without Law. Leaving the rituals as must do's to be in with Father and Son. Now by free choice, to do them as a good conscience to God between God and you, personally. Do not do your good deeds in public for man to see. Rather go into your closet and close the door, and God, who knows all secrets will openly reward you
Do not sit in Moses's seat for rewards from the people
Hoping you begin to grow up in your understanding, not that I have it better than you or others, you go on forward. Your salvation is not between me and you or anyone else either. It is between God and you. You are in God's favor, to be saved by God, not anyone else, thank you
Believe, receive and see, which can take a while to work this out in fear and trembling over under Law and upholding Law
Thanks a blessed life to you
If you are not good with this deep truth of there is only one Baptism and it is not water anymore as was through John the Baptist, to announce to the first Chosen their Messiah has arrived. That they chose to not beleive then. Therefore the Gospel came over to the Gentile, without Law. Leaving the rituals as must do's to be in with Father and Son. Now by free choice, to do them as a good conscience to God between God and you, personally. Do not do your good deeds in public for man to see. Rather go into your closet and close the door, and God, who knows all secrets will openly reward you
Do not sit in Moses's seat for rewards from the people
Hoping you begin to grow up in your understanding, not that I have it better than you or others, you go on forward. Your salvation is not between me and you or anyone else either. It is between God and you. You are in God's favor, to be saved by God, not anyone else, thank you
Believe, receive and see, which can take a while to work this out in fear and trembling over under Law and upholding Law
Thanks a blessed life to you
Water baptism has been performed since Moses and is part of the law.Jews still water Baptise today .
Again.,water is not Jesus name Anyone can say the name Jesus while taking the ritual bath and they still are not Baptised into Christ because they have not been Baptised in the holy spirit.
Water is carnal and is of this world.The holy spirit is not and it is holy spirit baptism that is in Jesus name.
John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Worldly water does not come in Jesus name.The Holy Ghost does.
Again.,water is not Jesus name Anyone can say the name Jesus while taking the ritual bath and they still are not Baptised into Christ because they have not been Baptised in the holy spirit.
Water is carnal and is of this world.The holy spirit is not and it is holy spirit baptism that is in Jesus name.
John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Worldly water does not come in Jesus name.The Holy Ghost does.
I was talking about Hitler baptism along with Stalin and Lenjns baptisms when you addressed me with Godwin's law which concerns Hitler.
Godwin's law, short for Godwin's law (or rule) of Nazi analogies,[1] is an Internet adage asserting: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."
Godwin's law, short for Godwin's law (or rule) of Nazi analogies,[1] is an Internet adage asserting: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."
The word of God is the final authority. Please consider Jesus' words in Luke 24:47. He said that repentance and remission of sin would be preached in His name in all nations BEGINNING in Jerusalem. The message of the need to repent, and receive remission of sin by invoking the name of Jesus in baptism was in fact first preached in Jerusalem on the Day of Pentecost. And afterward that same message was carried, and continues to be presented to individual's of all nations.
According to Jude 3 there is a common salvation that all must pursue:
"Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints." Jude 3
"When Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine..." Acts 2:38-42
According to Jude 3 there is a common salvation that all must pursue:
"Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints." Jude 3
"When Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine..." Acts 2:38-42
Many things in the OT, such as the flood you mention, were foreshadows that pointed to what later became the NT water baptism for remission of sin.
Water baptizing in the name of Jesus means to invoke the name of Jesus while administering water baptism rather than saying I baptize you in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. The apostles obeyed Jesus command in Matthew 28:19 by water baptizing people invoking His name. This truth is revealed in all the detailed accounts of water baptism's administered by the apostles. (Acts 2:38-41, 8:12-18, 9:17-18, 10:43-48, 19:1-7, 22:16)
The Bible states that in Jesus dwells all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. (Col. 2:9) The Godhead is the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. The Bible also says that everything in word and deed is to be done in the name of Jesus. (Col. 3:17)
Water baptizing in the name of Jesus means to invoke the name of Jesus while administering water baptism rather than saying I baptize you in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. The apostles obeyed Jesus command in Matthew 28:19 by water baptizing people invoking His name. This truth is revealed in all the detailed accounts of water baptism's administered by the apostles. (Acts 2:38-41, 8:12-18, 9:17-18, 10:43-48, 19:1-7, 22:16)
The Bible states that in Jesus dwells all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. (Col. 2:9) The Godhead is the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. The Bible also says that everything in word and deed is to be done in the name of Jesus. (Col. 3:17)
