Saul of Tarsus was not saved on the road to Damascus.
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Im not discounting the foundation, but then you build a house on it. Salvation is the most important thing, and Saul’s conversation was the biggest one in the Bible. …But Saul became Paul and wrote 2/3 of the NT after salvation. Peter was weak and had no power to obey until after the upper room experience, then he went on to do miracle after miracle.
Sadly the Catholic Church distorted a lot of things. However, that should not keep people from searching out the truth regarding water baptism. Water baptism is just one of the essential elements of the NT rebirth. Obedience to the command without first accepting Jesus' sacrifice and willingly turning away from a lifestyle of death accomplishes nothing but getting wet.
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Is this an admission of lawlessness on your part?
Water most certainly does clean the inside...if used.
Here is the text:
Matthew 23:25-29
New International Version
25 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26 Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.
27 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
29 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous.
The same water that cleans the outside of the cup will clean the inside of the cup.
It was rebellion by the Pharisees to not use water to clean the inside of the cup.
Water most certainly does clean the inside...if used.
Here is the text:
Matthew 23:25-29
New International Version
25 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26 Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.
27 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
29 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous.
The same water that cleans the outside of the cup will clean the inside of the cup.
It was rebellion by the Pharisees to not use water to clean the inside of the cup.
I almost completely wrongly divided your words on here. I was about to ask you how you feel NeHe was wrong, and exactly why.
I was about to write that out when I stopped, and reread his comment and then yours. All of a sudden I saw the huge "YES" on the front of your comment and all of a sudden it became clear. I am just glad I slowed down and reread before I started typing out my rebuttal. Not even sure why I felt the need to share this, just glad I didn't start a whole mess of misunderstanding because I wanted to respond quickly.
I was about to write that out when I stopped, and reread his comment and then yours. All of a sudden I saw the huge "YES" on the front of your comment and all of a sudden it became clear. I am just glad I slowed down and reread before I started typing out my rebuttal. Not even sure why I felt the need to share this, just glad I didn't start a whole mess of misunderstanding because I wanted to respond quickly.
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The accounts in Acts indicate it is not the same. I too was baptized that way before I became aware of what the Bible actually reveals:
Jesus gave His apostles the command to use a name. Notice how the apostles obeyed His command. In each and every detailed account they invoked the singular name of Jesus when administering baptism.
Scripture reveals much about the topic. In Jesus dwells all the fulness of the Godhead. Everything in word and deed is to be done in the name that is above all names. Also, relevant is the scripture: there is none other name under heaven whereby we must be saved, etc.
There is a vast amount of information that confirms forerunners of the Roman Catholic Church stopped the use of the name and instituted the phrase around 325 A.D. This is even found in many of their own church publications and encyclopedias.
It was after learning of the above and realizing there was not one account where the apostles baptized using the phrase I was rebaptized in water in the name of Jesus in accordance with the word.
Jesus gave His apostles the command to use a name. Notice how the apostles obeyed His command. In each and every detailed account they invoked the singular name of Jesus when administering baptism.
Scripture reveals much about the topic. In Jesus dwells all the fulness of the Godhead. Everything in word and deed is to be done in the name that is above all names. Also, relevant is the scripture: there is none other name under heaven whereby we must be saved, etc.
There is a vast amount of information that confirms forerunners of the Roman Catholic Church stopped the use of the name and instituted the phrase around 325 A.D. This is even found in many of their own church publications and encyclopedias.
It was after learning of the above and realizing there was not one account where the apostles baptized using the phrase I was rebaptized in water in the name of Jesus in accordance with the word.
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If God washes a man clean then he is clean.That man does not need to be washed by another man .
What do you not comprehend about that?
Why do you question God?
Acts 10:15
The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”
Again and again you call what God has cleansed ,unclean .There is no need for a gay priest to Baptise a man after God had cleansed him.
