Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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HeIsHere

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I guess by facts you mean your perfect world where you do a lot of projects on paper and assume that's how they're gonna pan out in reality?
I'm answering to your points but you don't want to process those points.

It's okay, i just hope and pray that the country doesn't get any more radical then it is due to the internet.
That's how autistic people like Adam Lanza and Trump's shooter get their motivation. From extreme leftists on reddit.
I have not read he, Trump's shooter, was on the spectrum? :unsure:
 

cv5

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however we should still work to expose corruption and evil, it is one of the ways to be salt and light.
Agree. Which is the purpose of my exertions here. And other venues as well.
 

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BREAKING NEWS: Following the attempted assassination of President Trump, Judge Cannon just DISMISSED the Trump documents case, citing the UNLAWFUL APPOINTMENT AND FUNDING OF SPECIAL COUNSEL JACK SMITH!
 

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How a person looks does not put them on the autism spectrum, sorry it just does not.
As well, many children are bullied for various reasons.

Like I stated there is always more than meets the eye you can believe it or not.
Well, i can say that i am a bit more trained on how people look and act due to my background seeing war and chaos.
There was one guy at my job who looked like that and was a bit off and made comments to others such as "i have a bullet with your name on it".
They fired him but he is also a bomb waiting to explode some day with his temperament, looks and upbringing.
 

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Thomas Massie

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Is Special Counsel Jack Smith's office Constitutional? Unlike U.S. Attorneys, he wasn't appointed by the President and wasn't confirmed by the Senate. Congress never even authorized a Special Counsel office to exist. We shouldn’t pretend this position is legal or independent.
 

ZNP

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I taught forensics for years. This does not mean I am an expert. What it does mean is that I spent 90 minutes preparing each lesson which was itself close to an hour long. That is 190 lessons in a year, or close to 500 hours a year spent on this subject for years. If you really want to study a topic you should try teaching it. You study it, you teach it, then you must grade 30+ papers on the topic, and then you do it all over again the next year and the next year.

There are some really excellent fictional dramatizations of what is possible. Dekter describes a blood spatter analyst and all the things that can be determined by simply looking at blood spatter.

Bones demonstrates state of the art scientific methods, primarily showing you want can be determined by looking at the bones, but also at trace evidence and doing recreations of the event.

Lie to Me is based on the research of a scientist into micro expressions and those who study body language.

A whole host of cops and robbers shows incorporate various techniques used in questioning and interrogating people.

The problem that most if not all the shows have is they condense what might take a month into a 40 minute show and they assume you have the best and the brightest working on the case.

There are probably a thousand campaign events going on the country this month, and you would never expect the best and the brightest to be at all of them. But you would expect that those who are protecting a former president and someone campaigning for the presidency of the US would be the best and the brightest.

There are people trained in spotting suspicious behavior. What you and I cannot do they are like savants. You can be trained in this profession and it take about six months to be very competent and a couple of years to be very proficient at this.

There are others who are trained snipers and trained at stopping snipers. They know exactly what they are looking for and will spot it when you and I would miss it. This takes six weeks to become aware of what to look for, a year to become competent, a couple of years to become proficient, and a few more years to become a real expert.

You would think that the few people on Trump's team with these assignments would be at the expert level.

Dan Bongino who would also have been at the expert level since he worked for Secret Service protecting presidents for years described this shooting, not as something that would have been very difficult to stop but perhaps the easiest and the most obvious attack to stop. We are not talking about a guy a kilometer away making a shot, we are talking about a guy in plain view 130 yards away, on a white roof where no one was supposed to be with a rifle. This is not Ronald Reagan getting shot by some guy in a crowd with a pistol hidden. This is a guy in plain view crawling on a roof with a rifle with people in the crowd pointing him out and the police having seen him. There is no excuse for Trump to have still been on the stage while this threat was in plain sight. The sniper team is in constant communication with Trump's security detail. They saw this threat 40 seconds before he shot. No excuse for Trump still being there.
 

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Is Special Counsel Jack Smith's office Constitutional? Unlike U.S. Attorneys, he wasn't appointed by the President and wasn't confirmed by the Senate. Congress never even authorized a Special Counsel office to exist. We shouldn’t pretend this position is legal or independent.
I thought a judge just ruled that it isn't.
 

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Brother @ZNP i just want to say that i do agree with a lot of what you say on different topics during the time that i've been here.
We may not agree on everything but i do agree with some of the things you've said in regards to 9.11 for instance and a few other topics.
 

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"The Special Counsel’s position effectively usurps that important legislative authority, transferring it to a Head of Department, and in the process threatening the structural liberty inherent in the separation of powers," Cannon wrote in her decision. "He can be appointed and confirmed through the default method prescribed in the Appointments Clause, as Congress has directed for United States Attorneys throughout American history."

"Dismissal of this action is the only appropriate solution for the Appointments Clause violation."
 

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Well, i can say that i am a bit more trained on how people look and act due to my background seeing war and chaos.
There was one guy at my job who looked like that and was a bit off and made comments to others such as "i have a bullet with your name on it".
They fired him but he is also a bomb waiting to explode some day with his temperament, looks and upbringing.
Okay, glad we can judge a book by its cover.
 

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Okay, glad we can judge a book by its cover.
Agreed. That's called profiling. A loaded word in today's politically correct world but it's not so loaded where i come from.
When i speak to my friends at the police dpt. at my job about profiling, they say that it does work but they can never do it of course.
 

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"The Special Counsel’s position effectively usurps that important legislative authority, transferring it to a Head of Department, and in the process threatening the structural liberty inherent in the separation of powers," Cannon wrote in her decision. "He can be appointed and confirmed through the default method prescribed in the Appointments Clause, as Congress has directed for United States Attorneys throughout American history."

"Dismissal of this action is the only appropriate solution for the Appointments Clause violation."
Once that happens we need to go through all the posts accusing Trump of treason based on this Jack Smith prosecution
 

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Agreed. That's called profiling. A loaded word in today's politically correct world but it's not so loaded where i come from.
When i speak to my friends at the police dpt. at my job about profiling, they say that it does work but they can never do it of course.
Well where I come from, profiling is one thing and diagnosis is another.
And both should are conducted using certain a methodology.
 

ZNP

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Agreed. That's called profiling. A loaded word in today's politically correct world but it's not so loaded where i come from.
When i speak to my friends at the police dpt. at my job about profiling, they say that it does work but they can never do it of course.
Profiling

Consider the case of the Mad Bomber, who terrorized New York City in the 1940s-50s until police, at their wits’ end, asked psychiatrist James Brussel to develop a “profile” to help them catch the responsible offender. As the story goes, Brussel reviewed the files and then provided police an incredibly detailed description of the bomber: a middle-aged man of Eastern European descent living alone in Connecticut; a disgruntled former employee of Con Edison, the city’s utility company. [He also said he would be catholic (he was) and that he might be living with his mother or sister if not alone [he was living with his sister]

Oh, and one more thing. Before he left the police station, Brussel told the detectives, “When you catch him, and I have no doubt you will, he’ll be wearing a double-breasted suit. And it will be buttoned.”

A month later, George Metesky, an unmarried Polish immigrant living in Waterbury, Connecticut, previously employed by Con Edison until a dispute in 1931, was arrested by police as the mastermind behind the New York City bombings. When police came to the door, Metesky was in his pajamas and went upstairs to change. When he came back downstairs, he was wearing a double-breasted suit, fully buttoned, just as Brussel predicted. Pretty incredible, right?

The problem is some profiles are done by real pros, and other are simply done by clowns.
 

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Once that happens we need to go through all the posts accusing Trump of treason based on this Jack Smith prosecution
Let the lawsuits commence.