When the antichrist takes his seat in the Temple of God

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Omegatime

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He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.” Dan 9:27
 
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He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.” Dan 9:27
Tell me please
Is it done for the people in Son for us or not? (John 19:30, Hebrews 9:14-17)
 

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Tell me please
Is it done for the people in Son for us or not? (John 19:30, Hebrews 9:14-17)
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Surely he prepared us for what is to come. Not sure what you are asking homewardbound. The scriptures have little meaning to the unrighteous
 

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Here is a comment by one of Apostle John's disciples concerning the temple who may think it is of a spiritual nature. Look closely at his comments concerning the temple and describes it as a building of stone.

Now, as our Lord Jesus Christ, who is also God, was prophesied of under the figure of a lion, on account of His royalty and glory, in the same way have the Scriptures also aforetime spoken of Antichrist as a lion, on account of his tyranny and violence. For the deceiver seeks to liken himself in all things to the Son of God. Christ is a lion, so Antichrist is also a lion; Christ is a king,John 18:37 so Antichrist is also a king. The Saviour was manifested as a lamb; John 1:29 so he too, in like manner, will appear as a lamb, though within he is a wolf. The Saviour came into the World in the circumcision, and he will come in the same manner. The Lord sent apostles among all the nations, and he in like manner will send false apostles. The Saviour gathered together the sheep that were scattered abroad, and he in like manner will bring together a people that is scattered abroad. The Lord gave a seal to those who believed on Him, and he will give one like manner. The Saviour appeared in the form of man, and he too will come in the form of a man. The Saviour raised up and showed His holy flesh like a temple, John 2:19 and he will raise a temple of stone in Jerusalem

Notice also the antichrist will bring home to Israel the jews who are in other nations
 
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Surely he prepared us for what is to come. Not sure what you are asking homewardbound. The scriptures have little meaning to the unrighteous
Interesting, the righteous ones are what God calls righteous, that started with Abraham. God declared Abraham righteous, by trust to God only. did as he heard God said to do, and did it willingly, in 100
% trust to God, even saying this
God can raise Son from the dead, as he was on his way to kill his own Son. That is trust beyond measure.
What, I am getting at is, God by Son has done what is needed for us to be righteous in God under Belief, Son is risen, leaving any and all fear in the dust, as I see in the book of Job, who would not deny God ever, even in troubles as he got a bunch of them. All for the purpose to not belief God. He would not deny God, will we the people, we will see, each person sees or not yet, then decides to stand in believe to God or not, no matter what is next.
I believe God in Son as risen for me and all others also. Jesus fulfilled Law and Prophets for us to be safe in trust to Father in thanksgiving and praise and not worried over things we do not understand, at least for me this I see after a long walk here on earth off a short pier
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Surely he prepared us for what is to come. Not sure what you are asking homewardbound. The scriptures have little meaning to the unrighteous
Has Jesus completed the mission and is he risen where we can stand in trust to God Father of Jesus? It seems your posts, seem to lack true to God to me at least, I think you believe
God as well, only you and God know3 the truth as each person does too.
 

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Here is a different disciple of John speaking of the Temple

1. And not only by the particulars already mentioned, but also by means of the events which shall occur in the time of Antichrist is it shown that he, being an apostate and a robber, is anxious to be adored as God; and that, although a mere slave, he wishes himself to be proclaimed as a king. For he (Antichrist) being endued with all the power of the devil, shall come, not as a righteous king, nor as a legitimate king, [i.e., one] in subjection to God, but an impious, unjust, and lawless one; as an apostate, iniquitous and murderous; as a robber, concentrating in himself [all] satanic apostasy, and setting aside idols to persuade [men] that he himself is God, raising up himself as the only idol, having in himself the multifarious errors of the other idols. This he does, in order that they who do [now] worship the devil by means of many abominations, may serve himself by this one idol, of whom the apostle thus speaks in the second Epistle to the Thessalonians: Unless there shall come a failing away first, and the man of sin shall be revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he sits in the temple of God, showing himself as if he were God. The apostle therefore clearly points out his apostasy, and that he is lifted up above all that is called God, or that is worshipped — that is, above every idol — for these are indeed so called by men, but are not [really] gods; and that he will endeavour in a tyrannical manner to set himself forth as God.

Another commentary confirming the scriptures
 
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Omegatime said:
He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.” Dan 9:27

Sacrifice is over, thanks to Son, that is completed in Son true or not? So what is it you are saying?
I see a before the cross under Law and an after the cross, all sin gone in Father's sight for us the people,e to have a relationship and learn new in God's spirit and Truth, the how to say no to any unrighteousness, where God gets all the credit not any person, at least this I now see after a long walk off a short pier
 
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Here is a different disciple of John speaking of the Temple

1. And not only by the particulars already mentioned, but also by means of the events which shall occur in the time of Antichrist is it shown that he, being an apostate and a robber, is anxious to be adored as God; and that, although a mere slave, he wishes himself to be proclaimed as a king. For he (Antichrist) being endued with all the power of the devil, shall come, not as a righteous king, nor as a legitimate king, [i.e., one] in subjection to God, but an impious, unjust, and lawless one; as an apostate, iniquitous and murderous; as a robber, concentrating in himself [all] satanic apostasy, and setting aside idols to persuade [men] that he himself is God, raising up himself as the only idol, having in himself the multifarious errors of the other idols. This he does, in order that they who do [now] worship the devil by means of many abominations, may serve himself by this one idol, of whom the apostle thus speaks in the second Epistle to the Thessalonians: Unless there shall come a failing away first, and the man of sin shall be revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he sits in the temple of God, showing himself as if he were God. The apostle therefore clearly points out his apostasy, and that he is lifted up above all that is called God, or that is worshipped — that is, above every idol — for these are indeed so called by men, but are not [really] gods; and that he will endeavour in a tyrannical manner to set himself forth as God.

Another commentary confirming the scriptures
Okay, you are talking of what is going to happen. And yet I know not when it will, nor am I worried over it either. I see this to tell the people, God does just love them, not to scare them into believing God. God at least for me has never done that to me, ever tried to scare me. Evil does that and yes, all scriptures in truth will be filled as is in Son is for us the people, to not be in fear, why? for perfect Love, casts out all fear. God is perfect Love.
Yes, the day is at hand, when? no one knows but God Father of the risen Son, standing in God's love and mercy daily, in trust to be led in love from God, thanking God daily for this, even when I sinned and watched sin leave, as I quit focusing on it, standing in trust to God it is finished for the new life to begin, any focus on sin commands sin to continue in the first born flesh person.
Thanks for the telling of what one day will be?
 

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Okay, you are talking of what is going to happen. And yet I know not when it will, nor am I worried over it either. I see this to tell the people, God does just love them, not to scare them into believing God. God at least for me has never done that to me, ever tried to scare me. Evil does that and yes, all scriptures in truth will be filled as is in Son is for us the people, to not be in fear, why? for perfect Love, casts out all fear. God is perfect Love.
Yes, the day is at hand, when? no one knows but God Father of the risen Son, standing in God's love and mercy daily, in trust to be led in love from God, thanking God daily for this, even when I sinned and watched sin leave, as I quit focusing on it, standing in trust to God it is finished for the new life to begin, any focus on sin commands sin to continue in the first born flesh person.
Thanks for the telling of what one day will be?
I am going to speak straight forward about " only the Father knows". Most everyone is blind concerning Jesus being God. You say he was but then your back step and say Well, Jesus knew not when he was returning. I say this---If he was God then he knew, and if so, what was he teaching!
 
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I am going to speak straight forward about " only the Father knows". Most everyone is blind concerning Jesus being God. You say he was but then your back step and say Well, Jesus knew not when he was returning. I say this---If he was God then he knew, and if so, what was he teaching!
To see, the two, Father and Son are one, are really two as one. The Son is not the Father and the Father is not the Son. Yet are married as one. The mystery of marriage.
Yes only the Father of Jesus the risen one, risen by Father knows it all, and we the people are to trust in God's mysteries, that we, at least I do not yet see, if ever will, that is up to my Father.
This is as Hebrews 6:3, where it says this we will do, move onto perfection as long as Father God permits this. Got see it from Hebrews 5:12- Chapter 6
Ask, trust, without any selfish motives and stand in trust, if not get revealed it yet, or if ever will. That be what Jesus did, all the way to saying, Father not my will be done, rather your will. Away he went to save us all. And it is not that willing death that saves anyone. That was/is the reconciliation we are forgiven (2 Cor 5:17-20). Yet being forgiven does not motivate anyone to change, does it?

It is like, getting a pardon, like if we were prostitutes. We are forgiven, that does not motivate anyone to change from being a prostitute, it just gets people to take for granted this reconciliation given, a half sham gospel. No life in the people of flesh.
Yet given the invite to marry the King gives the motive to change to being a Queen. One does not need that old life style any longer
I am going to speak straight forward about " only the Father knows". Most everyone is blind concerning Jesus being God. You say he was but then your back step and say Well, Jesus knew not when he was returning. I say this---If he was God then he knew, and if so, what was he teaching!
Yes only the Father knows, as Jesus and Father are married as one. The mystery of marriage revealed
 

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The Temple must be rebuilt in the first 42 months ( 1260 days ) for the antichrist to take his seat in the Temple. (middle of the 7 )

My question to you is will this be done peacefully or by force in your opinion?
Dan 11:21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.

Dan 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

Dan 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.

Dan 11:33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.

Dan 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

Dan 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

Dan 11:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

The antichrist will come in peacefully when he enters the temple claiming to be God for he mainly wants to deceive Hebrews and Christians to try to convince them he is their messiah so he will not want to be forceful.

Also he wants to deceive the world that he wants peace to get their trust.

When the world takes the mark of the beast then he will be forceful.
 

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Dan 11:21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.

Dan 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

Dan 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.

Dan 11:33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.

Dan 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

Dan 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

Dan 11:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

The antichrist will come in peacefully when he enters the temple claiming to be God for he mainly wants to deceive Hebrews and Christians to try to convince them he is their messiah so he will not want to be forceful.

Also he wants to deceive the world that he wants peace to get their trust.

When the world takes the mark of the beast then he will be forceful.
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well said, I remember one of John's disciples saying that the leaders in Israel will beg the antichrist to be their King
 
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Here is a comment by one of Apostle John's disciples concerning the temple who may think it is of a spiritual nature. Look closely at his comments concerning the temple and describes it as a building of stone.

Now, as our Lord Jesus Christ, who is also God, was prophesied of under the figure of a lion, on account of His royalty and glory, in the same way have the Scriptures also aforetime spoken of Antichrist as a lion, on account of his tyranny and violence. For the deceiver seeks to liken himself in all things to the Son of God. Christ is a lion, so Antichrist is also a lion; Christ is a king,John 18:37 so Antichrist is also a king. The Saviour was manifested as a lamb; John 1:29 so he too, in like manner, will appear as a lamb, though within he is a wolf. The Saviour came into the World in the circumcision, and he will come in the same manner. The Lord sent apostles among all the nations, and he in like manner will send false apostles. The Saviour gathered together the sheep that were scattered abroad, and he in like manner will bring together a people that is scattered abroad. The Lord gave a seal to those who believed on Him, and he will give one like manner. The Saviour appeared in the form of man, and he too will come in the form of a man. The Saviour raised up and showed His holy flesh like a temple, John 2:19 and he will raise a temple of stone in Jerusalem

Notice also the antichrist will bring home to Israel the jews who are in other nations

Hippolytus letter to Theophilus
 
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book 5,chapter 25,paragraph 1. Hipppolytus made similar comments in his letter to Theophilus beginning about paragraph 6.
 
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What if the people are the temple of God foretold that would be rebuilt ? Reborn ? Re created ?

“And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭6:16‬ ‭

And what if the “antichrist “ is a spirit that’s trying to take the seat in the temple ?

“and every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:3‬ ‭

In Irenaeus book 5 chapter 25 Irenaeus mentions in paragraph 2 that he had already mentioned in which Temple he will sit. He doesn't say where he had already mentioned it but it begins around the chapter 6 point in book 5. I would read it from the beginning because it gives a lot of details in how the Christians then saw these things within the first fifty to a hundred years after the Apostles in regards to the Temple and the Antichrist. https://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/irenaeus-book5.html
 

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In Irenaeus book 5 chapter 25 Irenaeus mentions in paragraph 2 that he had already mentioned in which Temple he will sit. He doesn't say where he had already mentioned it but it begins around the chapter 6 point in book 5. I would read it from the beginning because it gives a lot of details in how the Christians then saw these things within the first fifty to a hundred years after the Apostles in regards to the Temple and the Antichrist. https://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/irenaeus-book5.html
I’ve never even heard of the book I’m just talking about what the Bible says about gods temple being rebuilt and the son of perdition seating himself in that temple claiming to be god. My thought was the temple spoken about isnt a building built in Jerusalem in the future but can be understood through listening to scripture especially what the New Testament foretells and what Jesus explained regarding the rebuilding of the temple
 

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I’ve never even heard of the book I’m just talking about what the Bible says about gods temple being rebuilt and the son of perdition seating himself in that temple claiming to be god. My thought was the temple spoken about isnt a building built in Jerusalem in the future but can be understood through listening to scripture especially what the New Testament foretells and what Jesus explained regarding the rebuilding of the temple
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May I add one more comment here Pilgrimshope. Yes, the righteous have no need of a temple made of stone.


Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, which you have from God? You are not your own;

But the unrighteous in Israel will rebuild a temple made of stone for the antichrist unbeknown to the builders