A critical look at Harris

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tedincarolina

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@ThereRoseaLamb said "This from a person who said to me they can see why people would want to laugh in my face. "

This is what you said:

Post #56,
Hey @ThereRoseaLamb

Yeah, I can see the temptation to laugh in your face, but I'll try to keep this civil and not throw around a bunch of silly name calling titles to describe everybody, like some seem to want to do.

Post #136 "There is a decided undertone of fear, anxiety and general hate and distrust of pretty much everyone. And really, some of the conspiracy stuff that they believe and push just has to make you laugh... if it weren't so very, very sad. "

You are the one who is bearing false witness.
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
Yeah, someone laughed at me when I said BLM was Marxist. Told me I was racist, and she's known me since I was a child. She claims to be a Christian. Some people don't want to see the facts.
Hey @ThereRoseaLamb

Yeah, I can see the temptation to laugh in your face, but I'll try to keep this civil and not throw around a bunch of silly name calling titles to describe everybody, like some seem to want to do.

God bless and vote wisely,
Ted

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Yes, my apologies. I'm sorry that I misrepresented myself on that issue.

God bless and vote wisely,
Ted
 

cv5

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I just can't believe that you people really believe this about those who are speaking against the GOP contender. I just find it absolutely amazing that you honestly believe that someone is paying detractors of the GOP's policies and people $150. This is one of those claims that I was speaking of. This would be hilarious if it weren't so sad that some actually believe that it is true.

Just WOW!

God bless and vote wisely. Don't drink the Kool-Aid that the GOP is selling. The Kool-Aid that the last election was somehow unfair or stolen. You guys really don't seem to be in touch with reality, but rather are believing all of the totally way out there claims that some are making. That the democrats, or those against the GOP initiative, are pedophiles... Really!?!?!?!
Ted
John Podestas "artwork" collection tells the tale. He and his posse are warmly received by Democrats everywhere.

Oh yes....and then there is this DNC promo nuttery....

https://x.com/RWMaloneMD/status/1825181036017574149
 

HeIsHere

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I just can't believe that you people really believe this about those who are speaking against the GOP contender. I just find it absolutely amazing that you honestly believe that someone is paying detractors of the GOP's policies and people $150. This is one of those claims that I was speaking of. This would be hilarious if it weren't so sad that some actually believe that it is true.

Just WOW!

God bless and vote wisely. Don't drink the Kool-Aid that the GOP is selling. The Kool-Aid that the last election was somehow unfair or stolen. You guys really don't seem to be in touch with reality, but rather are believing all of the totally way out there claims that some are making. That the democrats, or those against the GOP initiative, are pedophiles... Really!?!?!?!
Ted
A bit ironic the pressure tactics to denounce one's view point.

Which political movement (s) in history required conformity again...hmm.
 

cv5

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Hi @HeIsHere

So, you believe that I, or people like me, are being paid $150. to say things against the GOP?

God bless,
Ted
There are plentiful useful idiot Bolsheviks, Marxist and Maoists who are perfectly willing to labor free of charge. Same goes for pedophile groomers.
 

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Hi @HeIsHere

So, you believe that I, or people like me, are being paid $150. to say things against the GOP?

God bless,
Ted
Online political ads in the 2022 election cycle cost $2.1 billion. When you spend that much money you have people who are experts at manipulating public opinion.

We have also had reports of the Harris campaign paying "influencers" on social media to hype them in one way or another.

It would be foolish to not realize what is going on. Recently Google admitted they were hiding searches for various Trump related searches.

We also know that AI is used to create more personalized and effective ads.

So it would be foolish to be blissfully unaware of what is going on.

As for you how would we know if you are being paid or what you are worth. Personally I agree with you that no one should be paying you $150 a day, from what I can gather that would be a total waste of the donors money.
 

HeIsHere

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Hi @HeIsHere

So, you believe that I, or people like me, are being paid $150. to say things against the GOP?

God bless,
Ted
I do not think you are being paid, nor a troll, and neither are others like @JayBird.

In the Bible Discussion Forum, I have wondered about maybe two people who really did not engage in a meaningful conversation, but seemed to have, bot like, rigid talking points.

Even long time members who do not support Trump, maybe do not vote, maybe are a-political or whatever the position like @posthuman have been taken to task.

The American "politique" is in deep trouble imho.
"The powers that be" have done a great job deeply polarizing the populace.
 

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This is a thread about a critical look at Harris. Some have done this. Others have deflected, trying to get off the subject. So for those who support Harris, please tell us what she has done or will do to help Americans.
 

tedincarolina

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There are plentiful useful idiot Bolsheviks, Marxist and Maoists who are perfectly willing to labor free of charge. Same goes for pedophile groomers.
Hey @cv5

Good to hear from you. Still using the first grade name calling technique I see. So, now I'm a useful idiot Bolsheviks, Marxist and Maoist. I'm surprised I can keep all those political ideologies in my head. I guess I'm a lot smarter than I look, huh?

God bless you, friend, and vote wisely,
Ted
 

Cameron143

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Hey @cv5

Good to hear from you. Still using the first grade name calling technique I see. So, now I'm a useful idiot Bolsheviks, Marxist and Maoist. I'm surprised I can keep all those political ideologies in my head. I guess I'm a lot smarter than I look, huh?

God bless you, friend, and vote wisely,
Ted
Still nothing about what Harris has done or will do to help Americans?
 

posthuman

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This is a thread about a critical look at Harris. Some have done this. Others have deflected, trying to get off the subject. So for those who support Harris, please tell us what she has done or will do to help Americans.
she has not stated much about policy in the short time she has been in the race, but i appreciate that her focus has been on middle class tax cuts as opposed to Trumps focus on benefiting corporations and the most wealthy.

it's clear also that she would continue to back Ukraine, but that Trump would support Russia.

with all the hoo-hah over Biden's age i think there is also something to be said about Trump being equally very old and incoherent, vs Harris being much younger and mentally sharper.
 

Cameron143

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she has not stated much about policy in the short time she has been in the race, but i appreciate that her focus has been on middle class tax cuts as opposed to Trumps focus on benefiting corporations and the most wealthy.

it's clear also that she would continue to back Ukraine, but that Trump would support Russia.
I appreciate what you have stated.

As far as Russia-Ukraine, this is much more complex than I think you realize. This war would never have happened if there wasn't a push to allow Ukraine into NATO. This war began because of Biden and western allies taking away Putins buffer zone. Trump will stop the war once elected. Harris will continue to send aid to a slush fund and prolong the war for financial gain of bad actors.

Tax cuts across the board is what is necessary. People who don't understand business have been taught that the rich are greedy and don't care about the little guy. The truth is that the American standard of living is high because of successful businesses. They employ large portions of the nation and are responsible for the burgeoning middle class. Tax breaks for companies drive down costs and tax increases drive up costs and make companies less able to compete globally.
Why is this so? Because businesses add up all their costs and set their prices at what the market will bear. If a cost is increased, that cost will be adjusted for and a higher price will result. An increase in taxes is a cost to a business. When the government increases taxes, they add to the cost of producing an item. Voting for a tax on business is voting for price increases. Voting to lower taxes is voting for a price decrease. Voting for higher taxes will also lead to businesses closing down while voting for lower taxes on business will allow more businesses to open. Voting for tax relief on businesses leads to more people working, better wages as more businesses compete for labor, and cheaper prices.
Many have been fooled by leftist rhetoric about greedy business owners. The left likes to divide people in groups and pit them against one another. You can fall for it if you like, but I've found you to at least pensive enough to look at things with fresh eyes.
When Trump was President, every ethnic group in this country did better, and significantly so. That will happen again if he is reelected. Regardless of what Harris says, she will continue to do just as Biden has done. She will promise anything to get elected, and then blame others, just as Biden has done, when they don't come to pass.
I realize you have strong feelings and an allegiance to the Democrat party. I just wish you would take a closer look at what is happening to this country. Whether you see it or not, we are at a tipping point in this nation. America is perilously close to becoming a police state. You may not object when they come for Trump, but you will object when they come for you or someone you love. Hope it's not to late.
 

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I appreciate what you have stated.

As far as Russia-Ukraine, this is much more complex than I think you realize. This war would never have happened if there wasn't a push to allow Ukraine into NATO. This war began because of Biden and western allies taking away Putins buffer zone. Trump will stop the war once elected. Harris will continue to send aid to a slush fund and prolong the war for financial gain of bad actors.

Tax cuts across the board is what is necessary. People who don't understand business have been taught that the rich are greedy and don't care about the little guy. The truth is that the American standard of living is high because of successful businesses. They employ large portions of the nation and are responsible for the burgeoning middle class. Tax breaks for companies drive down costs and tax increases drive up costs and make companies less able to compete globally.
Why is this so? Because businesses add up all their costs and set their prices at what the market will bear. If a cost is increased, that cost will be adjusted for and a higher price will result. An increase in taxes is a cost to a business. When the government increases taxes, they add to the cost of producing an item. Voting for a tax on business is voting for price increases. Voting to lower taxes is voting for a price decrease. Voting for higher taxes will also lead to businesses closing down while voting for lower taxes on business will allow more businesses to open. Voting for tax relief on businesses leads to more people working, better wages as more businesses compete for labor, and cheaper prices.
Many have been fooled by leftist rhetoric about greedy business owners. The left likes to divide people in groups and pit them against one another. You can fall for it if you like, but I've found you to at least pensive enough to look at things with fresh eyes.
When Trump was President, every ethnic group in this country did better, and significantly so. That will happen again if he is reelected. Regardless of what Harris says, she will continue to do just as Biden has done. She will promise anything to get elected, and then blame others, just as Biden has done, when they don't come to pass.
I realize you have strong feelings and an allegiance to the Democrat party. I just wish you would take a closer look at what is happening to this country. Whether you see it or not, we are at a tipping point in this nation. America is perilously close to becoming a police state. You may not object when they come for Trump, but you will object when they come for you or someone you love. Hope it's not to late.
Straight up truth. Could not have said it better.

I do want to add......Trump does not and will not support Putin( I know you know that.) It was in the post you responded to. Trump will END the war. Who doesn't want that?