Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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gb9

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All that they really need to do is to avoid water main breaks on election night........which was actually a clogged toilet.

Ask Mr. Scratches lawyer to fact check.
i live in ga,. and when the " watermain break" happened, i knew something was up. and not in a good way..
 

ZNP

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i live in ga,. and when the " watermain break" happened, i knew something was up. and not in a good way..
yes very unfortunate, and made Ga elections seem rinky dink, what happened too many people flushed at the same time? The 2020 election was just a series of unfortunate events.
 

gb9

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yes very unfortunate, and made Ga elections seem rinky dink, what happened too many people flushed at the same time? The 2020 election was just a series of unfortunate events.
or, it was a series of planned events to get a certain outcome..

nah, that could not be the case..:cool:
 

ZNP

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or, it was a series of planned events to get a certain outcome..

nah, that could not be the case..:cool:
No conspiracy just a whole long list of million to one events all happening by coincidence in the same hour or two.
 

ZNP

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BTW we have heard of the silent majority, so is it too much to believe in the invisible majority that support Kamala?
 

JayBird

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So they became registered voters prior to becoming a citizen. How does that work?
No. They were not citizens and were given a noncitizen ID number in the system. Later on they became citizens and registered to vote, but their old ID number is still in the HHS database.
 

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or, it was a series of planned events to get a certain outcome..

nah, that could not be the case..:cool:
Apparently not, since no one ever managed to prove any of the conspiracies in court.

That's the nature of a democratic republic. Sometimes you just lose.
 

JayBird

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BTW we have heard of the silent majority, so is it too much to believe in the invisible majority that support Kamala?
I'm curious what you mean by "invisible". From what I've seen, she's now leading in several polls, including in the swing states, the Dem convention ratings are much, much higher than the RNC, and her rallies are packed.

If all that makes her support "invisible", how do we characterize Trump's support? :unsure:
 

ZNP

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No. They were not citizens and were given a noncitizen ID number in the system. Later on they became citizens and registered to vote, but their old ID number is still in the HHS database.
Wow, why didn't they put the new citizen number in when they registered them to vote? That is really weird.
 

JayBird

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Wow, why didn't they put the new citizen number in when they registered them to vote? That is really weird.
Because you don't get a "new citizen number". This isn't really very complicated.
 

ZNP

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Because you don't get a "new citizen number". This isn't really very complicated.
Yes it is. Were they registering citizens? If so why were they showing up as non citizens. Very weird.
 

ZNP

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How is Trump's support "visible and vocal" whereas Harris's isn't?
Are you a Harris supporter? If so you are the first person who has openly told me they support Harris? I have met many, many people who have told me they support Trump. I have not seen a single person who has told me they support Harris. For me the Harris supporters are invisible while the Trump supporters are visible and vocal. I have seen Biden bumper stickers but have yet to see a Harris one.
 

JayBird

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Yes it is. Were they registering citizens? If so why were they showing up as non citizens. Very weird.
You're not getting it I guess.

When they were non-citizens, they were assigned a non-citizen ID number in the DHS database. They hadn't registered to vote.

Then later they became citizens and registered to vote. But the DHS database kept their name and non-citizen ID number on file.

Good so far?
 

JayBird

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Are you a Harris supporter? If so you are the first person who has openly told me they support Harris? I have met many, many people who have told me they support Trump. I have not seen a single person who has told me they support Harris. For me the Harris supporters are invisible while the Trump supporters are visible and vocal. I have seen Biden bumper stickers but have yet to see a Harris one.
So if I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying that Harris's supporters are "invisible" because you've not personally met one and you haven't seen any Harris bumper stickers?

Do I have that right?

And no, I am not a Harris supporter. I'm a registered Independent.
 

ZNP

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You're not getting it I guess.

When they were non-citizens, they were assigned a non-citizen ID number in the DHS database. They hadn't registered to vote.

Then later they became citizens and registered to vote. But the DHS database kept their name and non-citizen ID number on file.

Good so far?
Are you saying they did not find any non citizens on the voter roll and that the entire article was disingenuous? Have you demanded a retraction?
 

ZNP

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So if I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying that Harris's supporters are "invisible" because you've not personally met one and you haven't seen any Harris bumper stickers?

Do I have that right?

And no, I am not a Harris supporter. I'm a registered Independent.
Yep, I have yet to find one, not on these forums, not in my town. I just drove four hours to Minneapolis and St. Paul and my son's house was next door to a guy prominently flying BLM signs and yet I still have yet to find a single person who supports Harris and is vocal and visible about it. Meanwhile you can't hardly go five minutes on the road without seeing vocal and visible Trump supporters.

That is the point of yard signs and bumper stickers so that people can see your supporters. I'm pretty sure that Minnesota is a swing state especially with Waltz on the ticket.
 

JayBird

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Are you saying they did not find any non citizens on the voter roll and that the entire article was disingenuous? Have you demanded a retraction?
No, the point is that they didn't bother to check before issuing their press release. I think they should have figured out how many had since become citizens, then do the press release.

But I suspect that wouldn't get the election deniers all riled up, which was the entire point.