Tonight's Presidential Debate

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ThereRoseaLamb

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Because illegals have constitutional rights and if Trump deports both Legal and illegal immigrants without a fair hearing he will be violating the constitution.
If you came here illegally you broke the law, you go back to where you came from, period. If you come here legally and break the law you go back to where you came from, you cannot enter the country for 10yrs. Obama deported so many people he called himself deporter in chief.
 

ZNP

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The Lion King explains why hell is eternal

I saw this movie with my kids when it first came out in 1994. It has sold over 55 million copies and there is no way of calculating how many times it has been watched. But every single time it is watched Scar gets killed by the hyenas. He will die eternally. Why? Because we need to learn where his green envy leads. This is just like hell. Each person in hell tells a story of how they wound up there. We don't want to erase these stories because we want to learn from them.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Ignorance runs in many different directions, unfortunately some people do not see it, when it is their side they are biased and cannot ever be objective about the behaviour of the "leader" and the adherents.

Best to point away, good tactic and guess what it works well some of the time on some of the people.

MSM and all Hollywood are in the bag for Harris. And when it all comes out I think we're going to see that maybe they didn't pull the trigger when Trump was shot, but they set him certainly set him up for it to happen.
 

Eli1

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:ROFL::ROFL: I am totally enjoying Black Rock and their ESG initiatives and all the DEI hires who have no clue.

Maybe @Eli1 can help explain the real world.
Please don't get me going. :D
Trump is sort of a counter-culture icon. Not sure if you live in US or not, but he's a counter culture icon who goes against current domestic and global trends and he is also loved by many because he speaks in a way which the common people speak on the daily basis, while hated by the left who don't like that people don't speak their confusing language about their confused reality.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Please don't get me going. :D
Trump is sort of a counter-culture icon. Not sure if you live in US or not, but he's a counter culture icon who goes against current domestic and global trends and he is also loved by many because he speaks in a way which the common people speak on the daily basis, while hated by the left who don't like that people don't speak their confusing language about their confused reality.

Correct, their "language" is meant to indoctrinate. It's not a baby, it's a "fetus". I hear Christians, so called, speaking like this and I think "surely they know the difference"!! I hear this all the time from this indoctrinated generation like it actually is an argument. Change the name, they do it constantly. Social Marxism.
 

HeIsHere

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Please don't get me going. :D
Trump is sort of a counter-culture icon. Not sure if you live in US or not, but he's a counter culture icon who goes against current domestic and global trends and he is also loved by many because he speaks in a way which the common people speak on the daily basis, while hated by the left who don't like that people don't speak their confusing language about their confused reality.
I think I was speaking about ESG and Black Rock.

A counter culture icon, you say, interesting.
Has he mentioned Black Rock, Raytheon etc., or Peter Thiel in his rallies and how he is going to shut down their surveillance technology and their ESG demands?
 

cv5

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Yeah I think if you were there you might feel a tad differently. Maybe a little miffed about the fact that not only wasn't a president protected, but everyone in that crowd. A dad, husband, son, was killed that day and as bad as that is, what if it had been a child? No it shouldn't be forgotten and someone should lose their career over it, several people actually.
Casualties of war. And we both know who the guilty parties are, and that their judgement does not sleep.
 

SonJudgment

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Yes, it is God Who will punish and avenge.

Well yes, but you're not really supposed to let it get to that point in the first place, God already stated his judgment and stated what you are supposed to do as a society to prevent it. Terrible, but just, is the judgment of God upon such a nation that allows and then falls into whoredom, but this is a whole big topic in itself, after all directly or indirectly, a huge chunk of the Bible both OT and NT is devoted to this. Either way as this topic is concerned, shouldn't be too surprising that the party of the defenders of the sluts is being endorsed by Taylor Swift one of the most infamous sluts of her generation. The army of Jezebel versus the army of God.
 

Eli1

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I think I was speaking about ESG and Black Rock.

A counter culture icon, you say, interesting.
Has he mentioned Black Rock, Raytheon etc., or Peter Thiel in his rallies and how he is going to shut down their surveillance technology and their ESG demands?
My first wakeup moment into American politics after being in US for 5-6 years at the time, was on 9.11.2001
Or more specifically after 9.11 when the Patriot act was enabled.
It was then that i learned that the Republicans and the Democrats are two sides of a same coin. Because when i found out that they passed a 600 page document overnight without reading what was in it, i was shocked. And this shock came after the culture shock that i experienced over the past 5 years at that point.
It was then that i realized that politics are not based on logic or facts but on popularity and presentation.
This is why i keep saying that everything is a show, and like i told our two liberal friends here Ted and Jaybird, when you try to show some kind of fact against Trump, even if it's true, nobody is going to care about that. Because it's not about facts at all.
It's a culture war.
This sentiment is also found in our day to day lives, as i mentioned in another topic about my job and the mindset there.
Nobody cares about work or logic anymore, but about perceptions and public relations.
It's a reality show, so enjoy it.