The hatred of Jews

[PennEd]

Like the disciples and many today, you are looking forward to a physical earthly kingdom. That's not going to come. The old covenant is gone. There is no provision in the new covenant wherein God deals with any nation.

Wow!

I am saddened by what the amillennialist believes.

To discard or make an analogy of such vast chunks of Scripture is disheartening.

 

[LambOfGod]

Getting back to the topic of the hatred of Jews, Iran launched 180 ballistic missiles at Israel, but most of them did little damage. However, Netanyahu has vowed to destroy Iran's oil refineries and nuclear capabilities. This was long overdue, but now Israel has a valid reason to do something. Does Israel have the right to defend itself? Absolutely. Every country does.

Iran has a right to defend itself against these imposters.

 

[PennEd]

Iran has a right to defend itself against these imposters.

Thank you for so succinctly demonstrating what the title of this thread personifies.

 

[Moses_Young]

You don't need to be smart when you're a mass murderer.

This is what I don't get. Christians claiming to be against terrorism when done by one side (and rightfully so). Yet when the side they support commits the same sort of terrorism (or worse), they don't condemn the act. Instead, they celebrate it and treat it as if their side is so clever, and that their side won a victory via moral superiority. I find it disgusting. It's supporting a terrorist nation-state over the words of God. Definitely not a Christian attitude.

 

[wolfwint]

Iran has a right to defend itself against these imposters.

So as Putin has against ucraine?
Do you confuse with something?
Who is behind of the crime against Israel?

 

[LambOfGod]

Thank you for so succinctly demonstrating what the title of this thread personifies.

Your replacement theology doesn't work; these imposters are not Jews.

 

[LambOfGod]

So as Putin has against ucraine?
Do you confuse with something?
Who is behind of the crime against Israel?

So as Putin has against ucraine?
Do you confuse with something?
Who is behind of the crime against Israel?

Replacement theology is the crime against Israel.

 

[PennEd]

I'm going to suggest to Israel the next time Iran lob Rockets at them, to blow up the Al Aqsa Mosque, and blame it on Iran.

The children of the bondwoman, although many, are not only not too bright, but also are poking their fingers in the Eye of God.

 

[PennEd]

Your replacement theology doesn't work; these imposters are not Jews.

I don't think you understand what replacement theology is young man.

 

[Moses_Young]

Getting back to the topic of the hatred of Jews, Iran launched 180 ballistic missiles at Israel, but most of them did little damage. However, Netanyahu has vowed to destroy Iran's oil refineries and nuclear capabilities. This was long overdue, but now Israel has a valid reason to do something. Does Israel have the right to defend itself? Absolutely. Every country does.

I think it has pretty much just demonstrated that it has no regard for the rules of war or the prohibitions on legitimate, non-criminal states to commit terrorism. I think the question is more 'Do countries like Iran and Russia have the right to defend themselves, their allies and civilian populations against such lawless governments'?

 

[PennEd]

I think it has pretty much just demonstrated that it has no regard for the rules of war or the prohibitions on legitimate, non-criminal states to commit terrorism. I think the question is more 'Do countries like Iran and Russia have the right to defend themselves, their allies and civilian populations against such lawless governments'?

No Fair Moses!

I have to wait til I have access to my phone to barrage you with red Xs!

 

[LambOfGod]

I don't think you understand what replacement theology is young man.

I understand replacement theology better than you do; I don't support the imposters.

 

[Moses_Young]

No Fair Moses!

I have to wait til I have access to my phone to barrage you with red Xs!

I withdraw one red x for making me laugh. And I hesitantly await your proportionate response...

 

[HeIsHere]

I find it disgusting.

It is absolutely disgusting and the result of thinking a certain group carries favor with God and can do no wrong.

God uses evil men don't you know?

 

[HeIsHere]

Iran has a right to defend itself against these imposters.

Welcome @LambOfGod, so glad to have another with eyes to see and who is in the New Covenant, not the old.

Amen!

 

[PennEd]

It is absolutely disgusting and the result of thinking a certain group carries favor with God and can do no wrong.

God uses evil men don't you know?

Ha!

Even some of the children of the bondwoman are happy God used Israel to rid the Earth of vthis pestilence!

Hezbollah terrorists engaged in sex slavery, rape, mass murder of Syrians (yahoo.com)

 

[Cameron143]

Wow!

I am saddened by what the amillennialist believes.

To discard or make an analogy of such vast chunks of Scripture is disheartening.

No scripture is discarded. They are understood in light of the ending of a covenant, and the beginning of another. I would simply ask you or anyone else to compare the books of Deuteronomy and Revelation. One initiates the old covenant, and the other brings it to an end. They have the exact same outline, and deal with the same thing.
Also consider, every prophesy finds its fulfillment in Christ. Though many were dual prophesies finding OT fulfillment, all find their ultimate fulfillment in Christ.

I'm more than willing to work through the scriptures and biblical history, specifically redemptive history, and show this to be the plan all along. But most of the objections I find are simply those which are so ingrained from years of acceptance and an unwillingness to receive anything else.

 

[PennEd]

No scripture is discarded. They are understood in light of the ending of a covenant, and the beginning of another. I would simply ask you or anyone else to compare the books of Deuteronomy and Revelation. One initiates the old covenant, and the other brings it to an end. They have the exact same outline, and deal with the same thing.
Also consider, every prophesy finds its fulfillment in Christ. Though many were dual prophesies finding OT fulfillment, all find their ultimate fulfillment in Christ.

I'm more than willing to work through the scriptures and biblical history, specifically redemptive history, and show this to be the plan all along. But most of the objections I find are simply those which are so ingrained from years of acceptance and an unwillingness to receive anything else.

I can promise you I've looked at the amil position. My Pastor is even Amil. I don't go there for the Eschatology. We handle that in a more intensive Bible Study.

So I know the errors of Amils.
You either have to discard, or allegorize Scripture.

For instance, The angel Gabriel told Mary her Son, Jesus, would sit on King David's Throne. That is an earthly, political throne.

When did Jesus sit on David's Throne on Earth?

 

[Cameron143]

I can promise you I've looked at the amil position. My Pastor is even Amil. I don't go there for the Eschatology. We handle that in a more intensive Bible Study.

So I know the errors of Amils.
You either have to discard, or allegorize Scripture.

For instance, The angel Gabriel told Mary her Son, Jesus, would sit on King David's Throne. That is an earthly, political throne.

When did Jesus sit on David's Throne on Earth?

He's seated on it now.
OT typology is meant to reveal spiritual truth. Jesus' kingdom isn't an earthly kingdom. It isn't entered into by human lineage or natural birth.
Is Jesus the King of kings. Of course He is. Is He seated upon a throne. Of course. What do kings do from their throne? They rule. Is Jesus growing His kingdom? Every time someone is saved. Is His kingdom like that of the mustard seed? It started very small in the first century with 120 in an upper room and some others scattered about. How much has His kingdom grown to this point? Hard to say, but surely it's in the millions. Are the forces of hell impotent to keep Jesus from continuing to grow His church? Indeed they are. Is Jesus present with His people? When 2 or more are gathered in His name is He not in the midst of them?

I realize it's difficult to accept new things when others have been ingrained for so long. But I would simply ask people to pray about it and go from there.

 

[PennEd]

He's seated on it now.
OT typology is meant to reveal spiritual truth. Jesus' kingdom isn't an earthly kingdom. It isn't entered into by human lineage or natural birth.
Is Jesus the King of kings. Of course He is. Is He seated upon a throne. Of course. What do kings do from their throne? They rule. Is Jesus growing His kingdom? Every time someone is saved. Is His kingdom like that of the mustard seed? It started very small in the first century with 120 in an upper room and some others scattered about. How much has His kingdom grown to this point? Hard to say, but surely it's in the millions. Are the forces of hell impotent to keep Jesus from continuing to grow His church? Indeed they are. Is Jesus present with His people? When 2 or more are gathered in His name is He not in the midst of them?

I realize it's difficult to accept new things when others have been ingrained for so long. But I would simply ask people to pray about it and go from there.

Well thank you for the confirmation about allegorizing.

King David’s Throne is NOT in Heaven.

That’s kinda kooky. David never sat on a Throne in Heaven. That’s Basically just made up. Jesus is currently sitting at the Right Hand of God. NOT on David’s Throne.

Where is the sheep and goat judgement taking place?