The hatred of Jews

[ZNP]

Do you reject the trinity and/or Deity of Jesus Christ based on that line of reasoning?

The doctrine of the trinity is based on the black and white word. It is not inferential.

There are many types and shadows but they simply shade in the picture.

 

[Publican]

Dense? Perhaps, but God divorced the nation of Israel in the first century. That's what the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple is all about. He ended the old covenant and ushered in a new and eternal covenant. The whole book of Hebrews is a testimony to Christ and the superior covenant He brought in to the one being replaced. And the book of Revelation is primarily concerned with the bringing to pass on Israel the sanctions for their failure to keep the old covenant.

There is no difference any longer between Jew and Greek. God is dealing with individuals salvationally, actually as He always has. While most people saved in the OT were Jews, far from all Jews were saved. At any given time there was only a remnant who were actually the Israel of God.

I recognize that many will label this as replacement theology, but it is not. It is continuation theology. It was always the plan of God to unite mankind in Christ; into one new creation.

If you enjoy the Book of Hebrews, may I recommend AW Pinks commentary. Its lengthy, but there are jewels on every page.

 

[Jimbone]

You cannot have an inferential teaching, that is bogus. You can use types and shadows to shade in teachings based on the black and white word. For example, when God says He makes an everlasting covenant, that is a black and white word you can hang your hat on. Making a doctrine on inferential teachings based on types and figures is completely bogus, you can make it to say anything you want.

Well if the Jews were cut off from Him I could understand your point, but they're not. The Jew can come to Jesus still. The covenant still stands without the Mosaic system in place anymore. Why is this so hard to understand? Why would you assume it's broken if you don't think the same as you? God promised Abraham that ALL the nations of earth would be blessed through him. That happened. It happened exactly how/when/how/where He said it would. So you trying to insinuate that if you believe this then you're rejecting His everlasting covenant? This is not accurate and it's not the binary choice you're making it out to be. No I believe exactly what He says and that's why I believe the things I do.

I just don't follow your logic here. The only way YOUR view could be right, is if the Jew COULDN'T be saved through Jesus. The fact they CAN be saved, and it's the ONLY way ANYONE is saved, completely destroys this idea of separation between us and the Jews that you're trying to put on it. They were chosen by God. But chosen for what? To bring forth the Messiah. You have to add all the extra stuff to His word to believe otherwise.

 

[Publican]

I think we should all be aware that anyone can create AI bots, not just for the election but also those who want to drum up support for the war against Israel. God said He would put enmity between the woman and the serpent. So you can be sure the serpent will be trying to garner as much support as possible.

The day Israel withdraws all its troops from neighboring countries, the day they stop bombing schools and hospitals and community centers and murdering innocent women and children, including many believers in Christ, the war will stop.

 

[Publican]

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This type of garbage should NEVER be tolerated in America!

You are absolutely right. Dual citizens should never be allowed in Congress.

 

[Cameron143]

If you enjoy the Book of Hebrews, may I recommend AW Pinks commentary. Its lengthy, but there are jewels on every page.

Appreciate it. I think I'll start with Andrew Murray, but appreciate the recommendation.

 

[Publican]

Appreciate it. I think I'll start with Andrew Murray, but appreciate the recommendation.

I like Murrays commentary, been reading them both side by side since summer. Murrays is quite devotional as are all his works. But Pink brings the meat.

 

[Magenta]

The doctrine of the trinity is based on the black and white word. It is not inferential.

Could you please provide the Scripture references thank you.

 

[ZNP]

Well if the Jews were cut off from Him I could understand your point, but they're not. The Jew can come to Jesus still. The covenant still stands without the Mosaic system in place anymore. Why is this so hard to understand? Why would you assume it's broken if you don't think the same as you? God promised Abraham that ALL the nations of earth would be blessed through him. That happened. It happened exactly how/when/how/where He said it would. So you trying to insinuate that if you believe this then you're rejecting His everlasting covenant? This is not accurate and it's not the binary choice you're making it out to be. No I believe exactly what He says and that's why I believe the things I do.

I just don't follow your logic here. The only way YOUR view could be right, is if the Jew COULDN'T be saved through Jesus. The fact they CAN be saved, and it's the ONLY way ANYONE is saved, completely destroys this idea of separation between us and the Jews that you're trying to put on it. They were chosen by God. But chosen for what? To bring forth the Messiah. You have to add all the extra stuff to His word to believe otherwise.

The New Testament is the fulfillment of the law. If you try to insinuate that every prophesy and reference to Israel is fulfilled in the church it becomes absurd game of this means that a thousand times over.

The Jews returning to Israel and becoming a nation in one day, something unheard of other than in the prophecies of the Bible gets ascribed to the Rothschild's instead of God. The holocaust where a third of the Jews in the world were killed is not a burnt offering for an atonement for a third of the godhead being killed on the cross, it is simply one of many horrible events in human history that are meaningless.

I don't care what you believe, why do you have a problem with me believing that what the Bible says is true both literally and figuratively? Physically and spiritually.

 

[ZNP]

The day Israel withdraws all its troops from neighboring countries, the day they stop bombing schools and hospitals and community centers and murdering innocent women and children, including many believers in Christ, the war will stop.

Wow, that is quite a lot of slander. Now I know why I ignore your posts.

 

[ZNP]

Could you please provide the Scripture references thank you.

All of them? No. Many others have already done that. But here is one:

"Let us make man in our image."

By all means google scripture references from the law and prophets and NT, there are too many to count.

Jesus' baptism is a second example where the Father speaks from heaven, declares Jesus to be the Son and John sees the Spirit descending as a dove.

 

[Magenta]

All of them? No. Many others have already done that. But here is one:

"Let us make man in our image."

No not all of them just one will do and that one does not do because Trinity is not mentioned. You read it in or infer it.

 

[ZNP]

No not all of them just one will do and that one does not do because Trinity is not mentioned. You read it in or infer it.

I don't infer it, "our" is a plural reference specifically referring to three. Nothing inferential there.

The second verse I provided mentions the three of the godhead as the Father, Son and Spirit, again, nothing inferential.

 

[Publican]

Wow, that is quite a lot of slander. Now I know why I ignore your posts.

Slander? You mean Israel is NOT doing those things? Hmm. Go back to blocking me please.

 

[ZNP]

Slander? You mean Israel is NOT doing those things? Hmm. Go back to blocking me please.

I do not block anyone, I ignore people who have zero credibility.

 

[Magenta]

I don't infer it, "our" is a plural reference specifically referring to three. Nothing inferential there.

The second verse I provided mentions the three of the godhead as the Father, Son and Spirit, again, nothing inferential.

You are doing the very thing you speak against ... yes our is plural, but could be any number greater than one... even father, son and Holy Spirit does not mean there are only 3.. you have not provided a verse that in black & white explicitly states Trinity

 

[Publican]

I do not block anyone, I ignore people who have zero credibility.

Awesome. Get to it then.

 

[HeIsHere]

The Jews in Israel are not Jews, if by Jew you mean descended from the Patriarchs. The Palestinians that are being wholesale slaughtered by your precious Jews, are more closely related to the Patriarchs than any fake Ashkenazi name stealer.

Put down your Satanic Scofield Bible and do some actual research.

Of course Christ died for our sins, but the Jews handed him over to the Romans and said let his blood be on our hands. Just like the fake Jews have been doing for centuries. They start wars and have your children fight them.

Israel is the largest terrorist state in the world and the US is their henchman. If you want to continue to support Satan's kingdom here on Earth go right ahead. Help the Jews build his temple for heavens sake. But spare me with this Jew hatred horse crap.

Apparently now "true Christians" must worship them ... so not only are we accused of "hate" if he do not bow down we are not Christians.

So, so mixed up!


Amen and Amen

 

[Publican]

Apparently now "true Christians" must worship them ... so not only are we accused of "hate" if he do not bow down we are not Christians.

So, so mixed up!


Amen and Amen

Nice to find that not everyone buys into the dispensational mumbo jumbo. The part that blows my mind is the temple. They want to help the fake Jews build an actual temple for the Antichrist. Seriously, and they don't have any problems with this at all, like it must be done.
Total insanity. But here we are.

So, curious. Do you think we might be in the short season?

 

[ZNP]

Apparently now "true Christians" must worship them ... so not only are we accused of "hate" if he do not bow down we are not Christians.

So, so mixed up!


Amen and Amen

I agree, what is the point of the whole replacement theology. They have to go through incredible gymnastics to say that an everlasting covenant is not an everlasting covenant. But why? What is the point? It is simply so they can curse Israel and teach others to do so as well.

Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.