Could earth be the center of the universe?

[posthuman]

The thing is.....the later, better higher resolution satellite data
confirmed the older COBE data results.

The redshift data was the kicker.

Frankly, I am quite sceptical about standard model science.
They don't know what a wave is (it isn't), a field is, what magnetism
is, what gravity is, what light is (it sure ain't photon particles).
And they demand thet the "speed of light" is a constant (absurd)
And they think the cosmological constants are constant (they aren't).

all it can ever do is explain how,
never what,
& absolutely never why

and since QM now we know for sure it can only ever at best explain approximately how


if we read our Bibles we didn't need to wait for the 1900's to learn that, ha

 

[posthuman]

So that makes me wonder what we will be doing for all eternity? Maybe God will create life somewhere else in the universe and we're to serve God by teaching them about Him? I can't imagine we just stay on Earth and continue to just have normal jobs to pay bills and put food on the table - for all eternity! I'm hoping that we'll get to explore the universe He's made.

for one thing i'll be hosting a little open-ended get together -
please come by, bring a friend

 

[Publican]

You are absolutely correct and this is also a scientific fact. 95% of the universe is receding away from us faster than the speed of light.
It's impossible to know all the details of God's Creation and we will never know, but it sure is inspiring for me as a Christian for the things i am able to see and measure.

"A scientific fact"
Wow, now that's a lot of faith right there.

 

[Publican]

Genesis 1:1-10
[1]In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
[2]And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
[3]And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
[4]And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
[5]And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
[6]And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
[7]And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
[8]And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
[9]And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
[10]And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.



I don't see science talk about the waters above the Firmament or Firmament in general. They have a fake theory that is of Satan. Twisting God's design and creation

You think they were down voting Genesis or your fake satanic theory comment?

The farce is strong with this crowd.

Can't believe how many times people use the word universe in here. What Universe? Oh yeah, the sorcerers universe. I keep forgetting those guys in the lab coats have all the answers.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

for one thing i'll be hosting a little open-ended get together -
please come by, bring a friend

Okay! I'll bring some home made hummus and pita chips!


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[Publican]

Do you believe the earth is flat too?

Why wouldn't he? All of his unadulterated observations have taught him since birth that he is, on a motionless plane. That resting water is always level. That the same stars circle above his head every night the same way they circled over his most ancient ancestors. He knows that in an expending "universe" this is not possible.
We must become like little children.

 

[cv5]

a sizable local gravity well!

In fact when two masses are accelerating towards one another, they do
so toward a point BETWEEN THEM....kind of a null point in space. A point/location in the dielectic domain aka counterspace. And so called gravity is acually non-point source dielectric acceleration aka magnetism. And inertia/acceleration increases the
closer you get to this point in counterspace.

The idea that objects are drawn towards the center of a mass like the Sun is a common misconception.

But yes, the math works even if the model is wrong. Very commonly.

 

[posthuman]

That the same stars circle above his head every night the same way they circled over his most ancient ancestors.

the circling stars are a stern rebuttal of flat earth..

.. but that requires a little bit of thought and some basic middle school geometry

 

[posthuman]

In fact when two masses are accelerating towards one another, they do
so toward a point BETWEEN THEM....kind of a null point in space. A point/location in the dielectic domain aka counterspace. And so called gravity is acually non-point source dielectric acceleration aka magnetism. And inertia/acceleration increases the
closer you get to this point in counterspace.

The idea that objects are drawn towards the center of a mass like the Sun is a common misconception.

But yes, the math works even if the model is wrong. Very commonly.

yes, the Newtonian center of the solar system is demonstrably a point precessing around the center of the sun mass.

but the sun is so massive, that precessing point is far less than its radius away from the center of the sun.

Jupiter makes up the bulk of the itty rotational centerpoint shift

Newton's orbital equations describe macroscale behavior very, very well. other galaxies and the dark ebwrgy/matter craziness?my guess is there a red a few things making our observations sus, a few more things and energies we haven't a clue about yet, and potentially some very weird compounding effects of supermassive/superenergetic objects and/or conglomerates.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

yes, the Newtonian center of the solar system is demonstrably a point precessing around the center of the sun mass.

but the sun is so massive, that precessing point is far less than it's radius away from the center of the sun.

Jupiter makes up the bulk of the itty rotational centerpoint shift

True. i keep forgetting about Jupiter.


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[posthuman]

True. i keep forgetting about Jupiter.


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best practice

 

[PhilRycraft]

does nobody screen these calls?

 

[PhilRycraft]

yes, the Newtonian center of the solar system is demonstrably a point precessing around the center of the sun mass.

but the sun is so massive, that precessing point is far less than its radius away from the center of the sun.

Jupiter makes up the bulk of the itty rotational centerpoint shift

Newton's orbital equations describe macroscale behavior very, very well. other galaxies and the dark ebwrgy/matter craziness?my guess is there a red a few things making our observations sus, a few more things and energies we haven't a clue about yet, and potentially some very weird compounding effects of supermassive/superenergetic objects and/or conglomerates.

Heliocentric trash, you have no biblical foundation to support anything you're saying. Go research Jack Parsons and Aleister Crowley.

 

[Firmament4]

Since you claim, at least by implication, to believe the Bible, why don't you act according to its instruction? These insults are quite inappropriate on the lips (or fingertips) of a Bible believer.

Insults lol man up quit being soft. That's the problem with the world today.

 

[Firmament4]

Yes the sun is moving around the center of the. Galaxy and the moon is moving around earth.

But the earth would keep moving and the universe

 

[Firmament4]

My satan buddy?, that's pretty rude dude. Did you join Christian chat to talk smack?

Well you support his ideas. Not the Bible verses.

 

[PhilRycraft]

True. i keep forgetting about Jupiter.


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I thought this was a Christian chat forum? The only thing you're providing is information that supports the Big Bang Theory. You can only be pro-science or pro-Bible, I chose the Bible.

 

[PhilRycraft]

My satan buddy?, that's pretty rude dude. Did you join Christian chat to talk smack?

Satan pushes the Big Bang Thoery which is what you're supporting. Research Jack Parsons and Aleister Crowley. Firmament4 is simply providing Biblical information, which you've yet to provide any.

 

[cv5]

True. i keep forgetting about Jupiter.

The conceptual term is "barycenter".
Having said that, you need to ask yourself why 2 masses are always coupled into a dumbbell to begin with.
I mean, once a mass perceives another mass, they link together and become ONE mass? And the centroid of each of the formerly individual masses changes location? And there is some spooky ghostly point in space that they are attracted to?

Think binary stars rotating around one another.

Crazy man.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

The conceptual term is "barycenter".
Having said that, you need to ask yourself why 2 masses are always coupled into a dumbbell to begin with.
I mean, once a mass perceives another mass, they link together and become ONE mass? And the centroid of each of the formerly individual masses changes location? And there is some spooky ghostly point in space that they are attracted to?

Think binary stars rotating around one another.

Crazy man.

I agree! God is amazing in all He does and in all He creates.


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