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It's a no go. Most follow demons and they will tell you.
 

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Well... That didn't last very long.
 

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i'l confess: about a month ago, i listened to acdc's "it's a long way to the top if you want to rock & roll". i like the tune & i shouldn't because they are on the devil's side.
I enjoy the tunes in a variety of genres, although I find rap to be lacking in that regard although I can appreciate the rhyming techniques.
However the lyrics can ruin a tune for me. For example I loved Tonight’s the Night when Rod Stewart first put it out but after awhile my conscience wouldn’t allow me to enjoy it anymore.
Yesterday I deleted We’ll Sing in the Sunshine because the guy only pledges to stay with his love for one year.
 

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I enjoy the tunes in a variety of genres, although I find rap to be lacking in that regard although I can appreciate the rhyming techniques.
However the lyrics can ruin a tune for me. For example I loved Tonight’s the Night when Rod Stewart first put it out but after awhile my conscience wouldn’t allow me to enjoy it anymore.
Yesterday I deleted We’ll Sing in the Sunshine because the guy only pledges to stay with his love for one year.
quite Christian of you. the 1st move i ever made about forsaking certain music was 1990 when i got rid of my metal albums; judas preset, motley true, rate, etc. i had my 1st thoughts that that stuff is evil & i wasn't't Christian yet.
 

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quite Christian of you. the 1st move i ever made about forsaking certain music was 1990 when i got rid of my metal albums; judas preset, motley true, rate, etc. i had my 1st thoughts that that stuff is evil & i wasn't't Christian yet.
As A a red I’ll 👍 T lol I’ll Kim
quite Christian of you. the 1st move i ever made about forsaking certain music was 1990 when i got rid of my metal albums; judas preset, motley true, rate, etc. i had my 1st thoughts that that stuff is evil & i wasn't't Christian yet.
I have felt sorry for you folks who grew up after The Beach Boys and Beatles era.
 

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As A a red I’ll 👍 T lol I’ll Kim


I have felt sorry for you folks who grew up after The Beach Boys and Beatles era.
Regarding the BBs, I find a few Bible-compatible songs. I hear the reference to praying In My Room in connection with Jesus' instruction to pray in our closet. I had Wouldn't It Be Nice played at my wedding because it affirms waiting until marriage to become one flesh. And God Only Knows refers to God.

I find Beatles' music to be less semi-spiritual, but at least the lyrics don't often contradict biblical morality. One can think of The Long and Winding Road in connection with the prodigal son, and While My Guitar Gently Weeps reminds me of Jesus' lament over Jerusalem. In my Redeemed Secular Songs thread I share amended lyrics for Hey Jude.

The Rolling Stones are more difficult to redeem, such as Sympathy for the Devil, although God does love His enemies.
 

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As A a red I’ll 👍 T lol I’ll Kim


I have felt sorry for you folks who grew up after The Beach Boys and Beatles era.
why? i grew up in a highly musical family listening to Bach, Beethoven Raschmoninov, Tchaikovsky, Brahms, Mozart, The Strauss' family, Simon & Garfunkel, Moody Blues, Beatles, Elvis, Cline, Cash, H Williams, L. Frazel, W. Nelson, M. Hagard, R. Sovine, Peirce, Tubb, L. Lynn, G. Jones, G. Campbell, E Ford, S. Wooley, E. Arnoln, F Husky & then the super good bands such as LED ZEPPELIN, Abba, Bowie, Aerosmith, Deep Purple, Jethro Tull, Journey, G. F. Railroad, etc. also, i enjoyed L. Pavarotti, E. Carreras, P. Domingo, Sarah Brightman, an opera singer. & countle3ss jazz people too.
 

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why? i grew up in a highly musical family listening to Bach, Beethoven Raschmoninov, Tchaikovsky, Brahms, Mozart, The Strauss' family, Simon & Garfunkel, Moody Blues, Beatles, Elvis, Cline, Cash, H Williams, L. Frazel, W. Nelson, M. Haggard, R. Sovine, Peirce, Tubb, L. Lynn, G. Jones, G. Campbell, E Ford, S. Wooley, E. Arnold, F Husky & then the super good bands such as LED ZEPPELIN, Abba, Bowie, Aerosmith, Deep Purple, Jethro Tull, Journey, G. F. Railroad, etc. also, i enjoyed L. Pavarotti, E. Carreras, P. Domingo, Sarah Brightman, an opera singer. & countle3ss jazz people too.
You list some good music.
I wish the Classical radio stations would play more exciting symphonies instead of so much slow elevator stuff.
Moody Blues reminds me of liking Nightwish upon being introduced to it by my son, and Deep Purple reminds me of liking Blackmore's Knight gypsy style of Folk.
I also remember when a local radio station played solid Elvis for over a week while they underwent a change in format and they barely repeated a song, and they were mostly great!
I came to appreciate Blue Grass more than Country, and jazz before 1940 more than the later atonal tunes.
I bought only the Greatest Hits albums of most groups, with S&G and the Beach Boys being exceptions. I would have cited the Beatles also, but their greatest hits collection was a double album, although even their other "throw away" stuff is interesting to hear occasionally.
 

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You list some good music.
I wish the Classical radio stations would play more exciting symphonies instead of so much slow elevator stuff.
Moody Blues reminds me of liking Nightwish upon being introduced to it by my son, and Deep Purple reminds me of liking Blackmore's Knight gypsy style of Folk.
I also remember when a local radio station played solid Elvis for over a week while they underwent a change in format and they barely repeated a song, and they were mostly great!
I came to appreciate Blue Grass more than Country, and jazz before 1940 more than the later atonal tunes.
I bought only the Greatest Hits albums of most groups, with S&G and the Beach Boys being exceptions. I would have cited the Beatles also, but their greatest hits collection was a double album, although even their other "throw away" stuff is interesting to hear occasionally.
speaking of bluegrass, i like Alisson Krauss' singing. especially when she teams up with robert plant. the beatles put out a lot of junk music when they got into drugs.
 

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Here is a secular song that I have composed:

“Born to Lose”

I loved a gal; her name was Sue.
When she cried, she went “boo-hoo”.
Nothing wrong with that I know,
But she married my friend, Joe.

Born to lose, but I don’t care;
If I did, I’d have gray hair.
Born to lose, but I don’t mind;
May sound crazy, but that’s my kind.
Born to lose, but that’s okay,
Don’t need to win to like to play.

I had a dog, his name was “Noodle”;
He liked a short, black-haired French poodle.
That dog was NOT my best friend;
Noodle and the poodle left last weekend.
Born to lose…

I made my last payment on a new used car;
I washed it and I waxed it, and I didn’t drive far.
I loved that car, I was proud to say,
But a semi ran it over on the north freeway.
Born to lose…

I had a gal, her name was “Mary”;
Not a bad looker, quite the contrary.
I lost her in the month of June,
And just now I lost the tune–
Born to lose…

I found ten dollars on the street one day,
Just as a pretty girl was walking away.
I caught up to her and held out the money;
She kicked me in the shin and said, “Don’t be funny!”
Born to lose…

I’ve never won a prize and never won a race;
I’ve never kept a job or kissed a pretty face,
But another type of life, I would not choose.
I guess it’s just a habit I’ll never lose.

Born to lose, but I don’t care;
If I did, I’d have gray hair.
Born to lose, but I don’t mind;
May sound crazy, but that’s my kind.
Born to lose, but that’s okay,
Don’t need to win to like to play.
 

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You might want to change the fifth verse a bit. It leaves you holding $10. That's not entirely born to lose.
 

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You might want to change the fifth verse a bit. It leaves you holding $10. That's not entirely born to lose.
Well I am glad you didn’t object to the risqué implication of why she kicked him. 🤪
 

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Well I am glad you didn’t object to the risqué implication of why she kicked him. 🤪
Your song, your $10 bill, your random stranger and that makes it your problem. :p

But I bet a lot of people would comment that he still has the $10 bill at the end of the verse. So I thought I would mention it before you took the song to Nashville.
 

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Your song, your $10 bill, your random stranger and that makes it your problem. :p

But I bet a lot of people would comment that he still has the $10 bill at the end of the verse. So I thought I would mention it before you took the song to Nashville.
But that $10 when I wrote the poem is probably only worth $2 today thanks to the inflation caused by the uniparty spending, so not so much!
 

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I still maintain my initial view, that the lyrics of a song matter more than anything else. You could be standing on a stage wearing all-black clothes, half your body covered in tattoos...but if your music is honorable toward Jesus, that's the most important thing. People who pressure artists they don't like to conform to their own desires, based on nothing but arbitrary "offended" feelings...they're modern equivalents of the Pharisees. That ruling council tried the same crap with Jesus in His day, and when He refused, they crucified him for it.
 

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I still maintain my initial view, that the lyrics of a song matter more than anything else. You could be standing on a stage wearing all-black clothes, half your body covered in tattoos...but if your music is honorable toward Jesus, that's the most important thing. People who pressure artists they don't like to conform to their own desires, based on nothing but arbitrary "offended" feelings...they're modern equivalents of the Pharisees. That ruling council tried the same crap with Jesus in His day, and when He refused, they crucified him for it.
Yes and I see nothing wrong with secular songs that don’t advocate evil.
 

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Yes and I see nothing wrong with secular songs that don’t advocate evil.
Exactly; while I don't deny that music can certainly be used to promote evil (church tradition does say that Lucifer was once the leader of God's heavenly choir), I also think God gave us brains so we could use them and learn, not take anything blindly. Generally speaking, I tend to avoid 99% of the rap genre, because so much of the lyrics treat women as sex objects while glorifying drugs and murder. However, there is one song by DMX that I like: it's called "Lord, Give Me a Sign", and here's the video for it. Enjoy!

 

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Hey, I wanna keep this short and sweet. What are your personal thoughts 💭 on secular music🤔🤔??
Avoid it like the plague that it is. And most so called christian music too.
 

GWH

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Avoid it like the plague that it is. And most so called christian music too.
Do you also avoid Ecclesiastes and all other forms of recreation? Does one have to devote every moment to avoiding non Christian activities? Does life need to be monastic? Not many have that gift!
 

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Do you also avoid Ecclesiastes and all other forms of recreation? Does one have to devote every moment to avoiding non Christian activities? Does life need to be monastic? Not many have that gift!
Is it a gift, or a duty, or both? David said I will set no evil thing before me. We are told to guard our hearts and our eyes, I would imagine the ears should be included as well.

I don't know what you mean by Ecclesiastes. Its one if my favorite books with one of my favorite verses. Fear God and keep His commandments, the whole duty of man.

Another favorite; Worship YWHW in the beauty of holiness.

I like to golf, but mostly I just enjoy working on my homestead. I haven't owned a TV in about 35 years but I still stream the football game when my Steelers are on. I enjoy life, but I might enjoy it better in monastery, something to consider.

The things of this world grow strangely dim
In the light of His glory and grace