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Godsgood

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Yes that is what I observed.
All Christian Groups passed the Test. So, they are of God and not to Anti Christ.

The question is why they have different doctrines in salvation.
Every one of them claims that their group is the true followers of Jesus Christ.
How could that be?
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Because the different groups in Christianity have 4 different identification to Jesus Christ.
Can I raise this question?

WHO IS JESUS CHRIST WHO CAME IN FLESH ACCORDING TO GOD.?
 

homwardbound

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Matthew 16:16
Simon Peter answered, “The Christ, the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
John 14:6
Jesus told him, “I am the Way—yes, and the Truth and the Life. No one can get to the Father except by means of me.

evil, those that were evil wanted him dead, for he was taking over their priestly place, people were not going to the Pharisees anymore. All were looking for Jesus, so, they had to get rid of him to take back control over people, see it is Father reveals this, no one else can, thank you

Matthew 10:28
“Don’t be afraid of those who can kill only your bodies—but can’t touch your souls! Fear only God who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matthew 21:38
“But when these farmers saw the son coming, they said among themselves, ‘Here comes the heir to this estate; come on, let’s kill him and get it for ourselves!’
Matthew 23:15
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Jesus was/is God himself, in the exact image of God for us (Flesh) to be new in his risen Life given us in Spirit and truth (John 4:23-24), to those that stand in belief to Col 1:21-23 and see John 1:29, 19:30 as done for them to be new in the risen son for them to love all. God's way as in 1 Cor 13:4-7 to be imputed to us as born again by God for us through Son to us as risen where new life is at for us all to have and be new in thanksgiving and praise with all sin taken away as far as the east is from the west
Ps 100:4, 103:12
 

Godsgood

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Matthew 16:16
Simon Peter answered, “The Christ, the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
John 14:6
Jesus told him, “I am the Way—yes, and the Truth and the Life. No one can get to the Father except by means of me.

evil, those that were evil wanted him dead, for he was taking over their priestly place, people were not going to the Pharisees anymore. All were looking for Jesus, so, they had to get rid of him to take back control over people, see it is Father reveals this, no one else can, thank you

Matthew 10:28
“Don’t be afraid of those who can kill only your bodies—but can’t touch your souls! Fear only God who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matthew 21:38
“But when these farmers saw the son coming, they said among themselves, ‘Here comes the heir to this estate; come on, let’s kill him and get it for ourselves!’
Matthew 23:15
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Jesus was/is God himself, in the exact image of God for us (Flesh) to be new in his risen Life given us in Spirit and truth (John 4:23-24), to those that stand in belief to Col 1:21-23 and see John 1:29, 19:30 as done for them to be new in the risen son for them to love all. God's way as in 1 Cor 13:4-7 to be imputed to us as born again by God for us through Son to us as risen where new life is at for us all to have and be new in thanksgiving and praise with all sin taken away as far as the east is from the west
Ps 100:4, 103:12
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Yes, it is true because it is written that Jesus is The Christ and The Son of The Living God.
But is is also written.
If Jesus is the Christ and Christ means savior.
Why God The Father Claims that is the Savior alone and no one else?

ISAIAH 43:10-11
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Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
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I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour.

WHO IS REALLY JESUS WHO COME IN THE FLESH?
 

homwardbound

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Yes, it is true because it is written that Jesus is The Christ and The Son of The Living God.
But is is also written.
If Jesus is the Christ and Christ means savior.
Why God The Father Claims that is the Savior alone and no one else?

ISAIAH 43:10-11
10
Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
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I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour.

WHO IS REALLY JESUS WHO COME IN THE FLESH?
that is the perplexity of Marriage, and the two shall become One
The mystery revealed by God Father only to us the people to stand in belief to Jesus, the only way to become new is through his done work for us the people on that cross, where all sin got taken away then and there for us the people. That had to get done first, before any new life could ever get given to us the people read Acts 1. He had to die first, to go through that for us to be dead too in his love and mercy for us all, to get us given new life in his risen Life, Yet only Father can and will reveal this truth to you too, thank you
Yes the Mystery of Marriage now revealed the two become One
Trusting Father to reveal this to you when Father decides to, thank you
 

Godsgood

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Matthew 16:16
Simon Peter answered, “The Christ, the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
John 14:6
Jesus told him, “I am the Way—yes, and the Truth and the Life. No one can get to the Father except by means of me.

evil, those that were evil wanted him dead, for he was taking over their priestly place, people were not going to the Pharisees anymore. All were looking for Jesus, so, they had to get rid of him to take back control over people, see it is Father reveals this, no one else can, thank you

Matthew 10:28
“Don’t be afraid of those who can kill only your bodies—but can’t touch your souls! Fear only God who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matthew 21:38
“But when these farmers saw the son coming, they said among themselves, ‘Here comes the heir to this estate; come on, let’s kill him and get it for ourselves!’
Matthew 23:15
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Jesus was/is God himself, in the exact image of God for us (Flesh) to be new in his risen Life given us in Spirit and truth (John 4:23-24), to those that stand in belief to Col 1:21-23 and see John 1:29, 19:30 as done for them to be new in the risen son for them to love all. God's way as in 1 Cor 13:4-7 to be imputed to us as born again by God for us through Son to us as risen where new life is at for us all to have and be new in thanksgiving and praise with all sin taken away as far as the east is from the west
Ps 100:4, 103:12
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I open my bible when Peter told to Jesus You are the Christ and the Son of the living God.
This was happened when they came to Caesarea Philippi.
When Peter said to Jesus, You are The Christ and the Son of the Living God.
Look at the answer of Jesus to Peter.
It took a revelation from the Father before Peter said to Jesus, You are the Christ and the Son of the Living God.

We all know that every group in Christianity this is also what they say to Jesus. You are the Christ and the Son of the Living God.
But to Peter it requires a Miracle from the Father (for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, BUT MY FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN) before Peter said that to Jesus, You are the Christ and the Son of the Living God.
Therefore: It also require a Miracle from God the Father before we can claim or pass 1 JOHN 4:2-3

MATTHEW 16:13-17
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When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, BUT MY FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.

The question remains: WHO IS JESUS CHRIST WHO CAME FROM THE FLESH?
 

Godsgood

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I open my bible when Peter told to Jesus You are the Christ and the Son of the living God.
This was happened when they came to Caesarea Philippi.
When Peter said to Jesus, You are The Christ and the Son of the Living God.
Look at the answer of Jesus to Peter.
It took a revelation from the Father before Peter said to Jesus, You are the Christ and the Son of the Living God.

We all know that every group in Christianity this is also what they say to Jesus. You are the Christ and the Son of the Living God.
But to Peter it requires a Miracle from the Father (for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, BUT MY FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN) before Peter said that to Jesus, You are the Christ and the Son of the Living God.
Therefore: It also require a Miracle from God the Father before we can claim or pass 1 JOHN 4:2-3

MATTHEW 16:13-17
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When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, BUT MY FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.

The question remains: WHO IS JESUS CHRIST WHO CAME FROM THE FLESH?
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The test in 1 John 4:2-3 was given by the Lord Jesus Christ. To identify who is from God and who is the anti Christ.
Now we are trying to ID Jesus Christ came in the flesh.
And with the revelation of God, we have come to Matthew 16:17 when Peter told to Jesus : You are the Christ and the Son of the Living God. According to the Lord Jesus it is a Miracle from God when Simon Peter mentioned it

MATTHEW 16:16-17
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And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the CHRIST, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.


We all know that the meaning of Christ is Savior.

Let us humble ourselves and let God reconcile these verses.

Kindly read these verses below repeatedly and share what do you understand or what is the revelation of God to you.
According to God there must be One Savior alone.
How many Christ or Savior in these verses?

MATTHEW 16:17
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And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the CHRIST , the Son of the living God --- JESUS CHRIST

ISAIAH 43:10-11
10
Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I AM HE: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
11 I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no SAVIOUR. ------------------ GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC & JACOB (GOD THE FATHER)
 

homwardbound

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The test in 1 John 4:2-3 was given by the Lord Jesus Christ. To identify who is from God and who is the anti Christ.
Now we are trying to ID Jesus Christ came in the flesh.
And with the revelation of God, we have come to Matthew 16:17 when Peter told to Jesus : You are the Christ and the Son of the Living God. According to the Lord Jesus it is a Miracle from God when Simon Peter mentioned it

MATTHEW 16:16-17
16
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the CHRIST, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.


We all know that the meaning of Christ is Savior.

Let us humble ourselves and let God reconcile these verses.

Kindly read these verses below repeatedly and share what do you understand or what is the revelation of God to you.
According to God there must be One Savior alone.
How many Christ or Savior in these verses?

MATTHEW 16:17
16
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the CHRIST , the Son of the living God --- JESUS CHRIST

ISAIAH 43:10-11
10
Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I AM HE: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
11 I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no SAVIOUR. ------------------ GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC & JACOB (GOD THE FATHER)
Me, seeing the mystery of Marriage, the two become One in Father and Son as Won (One) for us each to choose to believe God or not consciously in risen Son or not, thanking God Psalm 100:4, 103:12, Ezekiel 36:26
 

Publican

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We can discuss Christian groups, but the obvious Anti-Christ groups include most Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Atheists, etc.
No single group on earth hates Jesus Christ more than Jews. And a very high percentage of Jews are atheists.
 

Adstar

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1 JOHN 4:2-3

2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Gnostics..
 

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Yes that is what I observed.
All Christian Groups passed the Test. So, they are of God and not to Anti Christ.

The question is why they have different doctrines in salvation.
Many of them have the same doctrines on salvation.. They differ on peripheral doctrinal matters.. Example Rapture.. Ones stance on the rapture or it's timing does not have any affect on ones salvation..

Every one of them claims that their group is the true followers of Jesus Christ.
Not all denominations make that claim.. There are a few that do.. But not all..

How could that be?
It's not how it is..
 

Godsgood

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We all know that the meaning of Christ is Savior.

Let us humble ourselves and let God reconcile these verses.

Kindly read these verses below repeatedly and share what do you understand or what is the revelation of God to you.
According to God there must be One Savior alone.
How many Christ or Savior in these verses?

MATTHEW 16:17
16
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the CHRIST , the Son of the living God --- JESUS CHRIST

ISAIAH 43:10-11
10
Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I AM HE: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
11 I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no SAVIOUR. ------------------ GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC & JACOB (GOD THE FATHER)
 

homwardbound

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The mystery in marriage revealed in risen Son God Father and Son as Won (One) according to Paul who saw this truth and reported it
1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Romans 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Romans 16:25
Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
1 Corinthians 2:7
but we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
1 Corinthians 15:51
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
Ephesians 1:9
having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
Ephesians 3:3
how that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
Ephesians 3:4
whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
Ephesians 3:9
and to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
Ephesians 5:32
This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
Ephesians 6:19
and for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,
Colossians 1:26
even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
Colossians 1:27
to whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
Colossians 2:2
that their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;
Colossians 4:3
withal praying also for us, that God would open unto us a door of utterance, to speak the mystery of Christ, for which I am also in bonds:
2 Thessalonians 2:7
For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
1 Timothy 3:9
holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.
1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Revelation 1:20
the mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.
Revelation 10:7
but in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
Revelation 17:5
and upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Revelation 17:7
And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

Only God Father in risen Son can and will reveal all of it to each kid as needed to see the truth to be humble still. taken away quilt and pride. in risen son for you, you, me and all others as well, thank you Father and Son as risen as proof.
therefore I say for each person to go to God Father in Spirit and Truth in belief Son is risen alive never to die ever again, and hear from Father directly truth oner all the errors here in this world still. The same errors that were going on in religion then as well.
Go into your closet, shut the door, tell no one not even your right hand what your left hand is doing.
Father who knows all secrets, will reward these kids openly, because these kids are willing to go through any and all adversities too
Will you? Hoping so, much trouble at first even as in the book of Job, the last chapter is amazing to me at least, will not quit the hope in seeing it as being true one day for all that will not quit belief to God over it all, thanking Father and Son as Won (One) for me and you all too
 

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No single group on earth hates Jesus Christ more than Jews. And a very high percentage of Jews are atheists.
Really? You sound somewhat prejudiced against them yourself. What proof do you have that this statement is true? Try Iran for one and others as well probably would fit the description better.
 

Publican

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Really? You sound somewhat prejudiced against them yourself. What proof do you have that this statement is true? Try Iran for one and others as well probably would fit the description better.
I've never met a Muslim who hated Christ, or a Sikh or even a Hindu.
I've met a few Muslims who hated Jews, can't imagine why. But the Jewish hatred of Christ is well documented. They repeatedly sought to kill Him and eventually handed Him over to Pilate for crucification, "His blood be on us and on our children", is that not what they said?

Most modern Jews do not follow the Torah, but the Babylonian Talmud. Go read for yourself what they think of our Savior, the Messiah they rejected. The Talmud states that Jesus is burning in excrement in hell. Go read it for yourself. Jewish hatred of Christ and His followers is well documented. But were I to post that documentation here, it would be mostly ignored and I would be accused of anti whatever and hatred etc. I'll pass thanks.
 

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I've never met a Muslim who hated Christ, or a Sikh or even a Hindu.
I've met a few Muslims who hated Jews, can't imagine why. But the Jewish hatred of Christ is well documented. They repeatedly sought to kill Him and eventually handed Him over to Pilate for crucification, "His blood be on us and on our children", is that not what they said?

Most modern Jews do not follow the Torah, but the Babylonian Talmud. Go read for yourself what they think of our Savior, the Messiah they rejected. The Talmud states that Jesus is burning in excrement in hell. Go read it for yourself. Jewish hatred of Christ and His followers is well documented. But were I to post that documentation here, it would be mostly ignored and I would be accused of anti whatever and hatred etc. I'll pass thanks.
It's not my job to educate you, yet you are badly in need of one. It's not that hard though. Just google or use some other search engine, and ask who are the most anti-Christ. If you are using a biblical account, while historically accurate, you will not come to the right conclusion. Rabbinic Judaism does not refer to the entire country. Try doing a search for Jewish denominations.

Again though, the op is asking a question about Christian groups. Are Rabbinic Jews Christian? Comprehension is key here.
 

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Because the different groups in Christianity have 4 different identification to Jesus Christ.
Can I raise this question?

WHO IS JESUS CHRIST WHO CAME IN FLESH ACCORDING TO GOD.?
Answer: The Word.