Questions about Adam and Eve

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Magenta

Magenta

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Bataal said:
For me, I have never believed that any Christians consider Muhammad (peace be upon him) to be a prophet. If there were, it would seem strange and funny.
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I agree that it is quite strange although I cannot say that I find it amusing... :)
 
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Magenta said:
Thank you, you are a very nice guy, very respectful which makes you a joy to speak with, and I have enjoyed being able to answer your questions as much as I can. Your English is very good! My reactions are not working right now either, but I hope to fix that soon by using the other browser which just went kaput. I am trying to go out for coffee because I need the walk...
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That's because you are good, you see the good in others.
Thank you for your kind words, and I appreciate your patience with my many questions. May God bless you for your patience.
I’m using a translator to make my English very good 😅.
I'm also still waiting for your opinion on my last statement please. I haven't found anyone else who can help me with answers and share their thoughts and opinions.
Have a nice walk.. It is 11pm here and time for me to go to bed :).
 
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Magenta said:
I agree that it is quite strange although I cannot say that I find it amusing... :)
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It's funny that a Christian would consider Muhammad (peace be upon him) to be a prophet but not follow him.
That's why I think it's unlikely to find a Christian who holds such a view 😁
 
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Bataal said:
That's because you are good, you see the good in others.
Thank you for your kind words, and I appreciate your patience with my many questions. May God bless you for your patience.
I’m using a translator to make my English very good 😅.
I'm also still waiting for your opinion on my last statement please. I haven't found anyone else who can help me with answers and share their thoughts and opinions.
Have a nice walk.. It is 11pm here and time for me to go to bed :).
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I am out for coffee now and on my phone which is why I can use the reactions. You are almost exactly 12 hours away from me have a good sleep thank you also for your kind words!! And please excuse my poor grammar And/or punctuation while on my phone it's not that great but it's nice to be able to speak into it to record my message as opposed to having to type everything out.
 
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You will have to remind me when you come back what you are waiting on an answer for...
 
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Bataal said:
You are right. I knew that the Garden and Paradise are not the same from this site.
And yes, as I understand from some of the answers here, it is not supported biblically, but it is supported by the Qur'an
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And, of course the Quran doesn't mean SPIT one way or another in the absolute.
 
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Magenta said:
You will have to remind me when you come back what you are waiting on an answer for...
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Bataal said:
Thus,

it was that way new religions have emerged over time as a result of differing interpretations and distortions of the original teachings. It is believed that in response to these developments, God has sent messengers and prophets to call people back to the original, pure form of religion. Nevertheless, these messengers and prophets have often faced challenges, including contempt and derision from their people. There are accounts within religious texts of God punishing the wicked with calamities as a means of divine intervention. Then, again, God continued to send His messengers and prophets to teach and guide people the true religion, as it was constantly being replaced by the innovations of mankind.

Agreed?
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The statement I mentioned above it refers to the period from Adam or after until the prophet Jesus. I mean the time when prophets and messengers were sent during ancient times. What do you think? Can this be agreed?
 
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BTW, I find that this site is shut down/OFF every morning (in my time zone)
The owner of this site should know that.

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Bataal said:
The statement I mentioned above it refers to the period from Adam or after until the prophet Jesus. I mean the time when prophets and messengers were sent during ancient times. What do you think? Can this be agreed?
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Good morning Bataal. It must be night where you are :) You say God sent messengers and prophets to call people back to religion but He is calling people back to Himself, for He desires those who worship Him in Spirit and in Truth, Truth being embodied by Jesus Christ, Who is Himself the Truth, and the only way to God. Jesus was purposed from before the foundation of the world to give His life as a ransom for many, the any who would believe by grace through faith in His shed righteous blood. James 1:27 says Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
 
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Bataal said:
BTW, I find that this site is shut down/OFF every morning (in my time zone)
The owner of this site should know that.

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That happens to me sometimes but it is random, and does not happen every night, and can also happen during the day. It usually clears up quickly, but if it does not return to the site after refreshing the page, it could be that some type of maintenance is being done. Just a guess.
 
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Good morning Bataal. It must be night where you are :) You say God sent messengers and prophets to call people back to religion but He is calling people back to Himself, for He desires those who worship Him in Spirit and in Truth, Truth being embodied by Jesus Christ, Who is Himself the Truth, and the only way to God. Jesus was purposed from before the foundation of the world to give His life as a ransom for many, the any who would believe by grace through faith in His shed righteous blood. James 1:27 says Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
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Yes, it’s currently 5:40pm here :)

I get it. That means I need to correct and change the statement for the period I mentioned (From Adam to Christ Jesus).

But what if we say that the statement refers to the period when prophets and messengers were sent during ancient times before the coming of Christ Jesus? What do you think? Can this be agreed?

I think I need to make two statements, one with the correction as per your above answer for the period until Christ Jesus, and another one for the period before the coming of Christ Jesus
 
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Bataal said:
Yes, it’s currently 5:40pm here :)

I get it. That means I need to correct and change the statement for the period I mentioned (From Adam to Christ Jesus).

But what if we say that the statement refers to the period when prophets and messengers were sent during ancient times before the coming of Christ Jesus? What do you think? Can this be agreed?

I think I need to make two statements, one with the correction as per your above answer for the period until Christ Jesus, and another one for the period before the coming of Christ Jesus
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It is almost seven in the morning here :) Well, Bataal, Jesus was part of God's plan before creation even happened, and the prophets told of His coming... as I said much earlier, Genesis 3:15 is the first "mention" of Jesus. Jesus said Abraham saw His day and was glad. We take that to mean Abraham understood Jesus was coming as Savior, long before He ever did. The Old Testament Scriptures are about Him. We say, the old (testament) is the new concealed and the new is the old revealed. Do you understand that statement?


Luke 24:27 + 31
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Magenta said:
He means it is worthless (from a Christian point of view).
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Cameron143 said:
Spit is saliva. Once it is excreted from the body it has no value. He is saying the Quran has no value.
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I get it. It's really interesting expression :).
He is considering it from a Christian perspective, but the Qur'an holds value for us because it is the word of God (Muslims perspective).
 
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Bataal said:
I get it. It's really interesting expression :).
He is considering it from a Christian perspective, but the Qur'an holds value for us because it is the word of God (Muslims perspective).
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Would you mind if I asked you a few questions?
 
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Bataal said:
I think I need to make two statements, one with the correction as per your above answer for the
period until Christ Jesus, and another one for the period before the coming of Christ Jesus
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Are these not the same time periods? Both include the time before the coming of Christ :unsure:

Jesus called John the Baptist the greatest prophet because he prepared the way for Jesus.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Would you mind if I asked you a few questions?
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Yes please, never hesitate to ask at all.
I may delay in my reply because I'm still pondering the answer from @Magenta. I asked him some simple questions, but he gave me deep answers that it has thrown me into a sea of thought. That's why I love him. His answers expand my thinking. :)
 
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