My pastor made it simple enough.
Because of the Cross?
No one was condemned for their
personal sins.
But, we all are born condemned. Why?
Because, Adam's sin that was imputed to all mankind.
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin;
and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned." Romans 5:12
My pastor was a language scholar. He taught us about the meaning of the Greek tense
that was used for ...
"for that all have sinned."
It means: At one point in time we all sinned.
That one point in time?
When Adam fell.
For when Adam's body fell, and took on the sin nature? It was passed down to all mankind through procreation.
Adam in sexual reproduction with Eve passed down to all mankind the fallen nature found in the flesh.
Because we are born sinners God would have had to quarantine all mankind in isolation away from God.
But, the Cross stopped the need for that.
On the other hand... Satan REJECTED the Lord and wanted to murder Him and take his place.
And, Satan's angels gave him thumbs up and agreed with him.
The Lake of Fire was created as a judgement for how Lucifer judged the Lord in his heart.
Now, if a man wants to join Satan in rejecting God?
He is no longer denied fellowship simply because of personal sin.
He then, because of siding with Satan?
He is to join Satan and his angels for eternity.
Matthew 25:40-41
And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you,
inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren,
you did it to Me.’
“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me,
you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and
his angels:
The Lake of Fire was not prepared for man.
Man, later on, must choose to team up with Satan.
They prefer Satan's way of thinking over sound doctrine,
and reject the Lord.
Nice Day to you....
You desperately need a new pastor. I suppose he, too, thinks he's worthy of God's great gift of eternal life?
It is God who decreed the two seeds in Gen 3:15 and it is God who decrees all who belong to the Woman's godly seed and all who belong to the Serpent's ungodly seed. And that is precisely what happened in Gen 3:15. God sovereignly reconciled Eve to himself, whereas Adam is very conspicuously M.I.A. in the passage -- meaning Adam either wasn't part of anyone's seed (making him neither godly or ungodly
) or the passage implies by Adam's omission that God didn't reconcile him to himself which means he was relegated to the Serpent's seed. And that's the way it's always been ever since.
More solid proof for what I just stated is in Romans 9 to wit:
Rom 9:21-24
21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use?
22 What if God, choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath — prepared for destruction? 23 What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory— 24 even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles?
NIV
The two seeds in Genesis become two lumps of clay in Romans made from ONE lump[ (signifying no initial inherently spiritual difference between the two lumps until God supernaturally transforms one lump into his New Creation which God uses for noble purposes). Man's great, awesome, mighty and sovereign "free" will is nowhere to be found in this chapter.
Ishmael and Esau did not get to choose their spiritual destiny anymore than Issac and Jacob did theirs.
Moreover, your pastor is ignorant of the unilateral, unconditional promises of the New Covenant. No mere mortal decides that he wants to have fellowship with God. It's God's sovereign choice to bring his elect into a personal, covenant relationship with himself. That is his RIGHT -- not man's!
Tell your pastor that if he had a modicum of decency, he'd resign in shame instead of continuing to pervert God's Word. Obviously, your "good teacher" forgot what Jn 3:18 teaches. All fallen mankind are by NATURE objects of God's wrath (Eph 2:3)!
My pastor made it simple enough.
Because of the Cross?
No one was condemned for their personal sins.
But, we all are born condemned. Why?
Because, Adam's sin that was imputed to all mankind.
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin;
and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned." Romans 5:12
My pastor was a language scholar. He taught us about the meaning of the Greek tense
that was used for ... "for that all have sinned."
It means: At one point in time we all sinned.
That one point in time?
When Adam fell.
For when Adam's body fell, and took on the sin nature? It was passed down to all mankind through procreation.
Adam in sexual reproduction with Eve passed down to all mankind the fallen nature found in the flesh.
Because we are born sinners God would have had to quarantine all mankind in isolation away from God.
But, the Cross stopped the need for that.
On the other hand... Satan REJECTED the Lord and wanted to murder Him and take his place.
And, Satan's angels gave him thumbs up and agreed with him.
The Lake of Fire was created as a judgement for how Lucifer judged the Lord in his heart.
Now, if a man wants to join Satan in rejecting God?
He is no longer denied fellowship simply because of personal sin.
He then, because of siding with Satan?
He is to join Satan and his angels for eternity.
Matthew 25:40-41
And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you,
inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren,
you did it to Me.’
“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me,
you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and
his angels:
The Lake of Fire was not prepared for man.
Man, later on, must choose to team up with Satan.
They prefer Satan's way of thinking over sound doctrine,
and reject the Lord.
Nice Day to you....
You desperately need a new pastor. I suppose he, too, thinks he's worthy of God's great gift of eternal life?
It is God who decreed the two seeds in Gen 3:15 and it is God who decrees all who belong to the Woman's godly seed and all who belong to the Serpent's ungodly seed. And that is precisely what happened in Gen 3:15. God sovereignly reconciled Eve to himself, whereas Adam is very conspicuously M.I.A. in the passage -- meaning Adam either wasn't part of anyone's seed (making him neither godly or ungodly
) or the passage implies by Adam's omission that God didn't reconcile him to himself which means he was relegated to the Serpent's seed. And that's the way it's always been ever since.
More solid proof for what I just stated is in Romans 9 to wit:
Rom 9:21-24
21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use?
22 What if God, choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath — prepared for destruction? 23 What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory— 24 even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles?
NIV
The two seeds in Genesis become two lumps of clay in Romans made from ONE lump[ (signifying no initial inherently spiritual difference between the two lumps until God supernaturally transforms one lump into his New Creation which God uses for noble purposes). Man's great, awesome, mighty and sovereign "free" will is nowhere to be found in this chapter.
Ishmael and Esau did not get to choose their spiritual destiny anymore than Issac and Jacob did theirs.
Moreover, your pastor is ignorant of the unilateral, unconditional promises of the New Covenant. No mere mortal decides that he wants to have fellowship with God. It's God's sovereign choice to bring his elect into a personal, covenant relationship with himself. That is his RIGHT -- not man's!
Tell your pastor that if he had a modicum of decency, he'd resign in shame instead of continuing to pervert God's Word. Obviously, your "good teacher" forgot what Jn 3:18 teaches. All fallen mankind are by NATURE objects of God's wrath (Eph 2:3)!
P.S. But I do agree with your pastor that each and every one us, being in Adam's loins, as it were, participated in his sin. This is why Adam's sin is imputed to all his posterity.
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