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6 of the chapters are in Aramaic and 6 of the chapters are in Hebrew. I think this indicates six of the chapters are prophetic for the Gentiles and six are prophetic for the Jews.
So the prophetic passages in Daniel that deal with the Messiah had to do with the Gentile Messiah and the man of sin goes into a Gentile Temple? check.
 

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The entire universe knows that Trump is the VASTLY better choice as president than the former resident.
Everybody. King and commoner alike.

Some are filled with trepidation and fear, others elation and joy.
agreed.
 

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So the prophetic passages in Daniel that deal with the Messiah had to do with the Gentile Messiah and the man of sin goes into a Gentile Temple? check.
The first five chapters are in Aramaic, in those chapters Daniel doesn't eat the dainties of Babylon -- you live by every word of God. Then you have the dream of Nebuchadnezzar talking about human empires throughout history but it is destroyed by a stone not cut with hands. That takes us to the end of the Tribulation where they are all destroyed at Armageddon. Then he talks about Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego in the furnace of Fire with Jesus. Most understand them as the tribulation saints. Then you have Nebuchadnezzar being deposed and being humbled and given a heart of man and then reinstated. A nice pattern that we saw in Trump. Following that you have Beltshezzar with his orgy at the palace and the writing on the wall. We had the writing on the wall sign from 2017 to 2024 where the Alpha and Omega was written on the US. This sign has been thoroughly interpreted, won't go into it here but I have covered it extensively in my blog. He calls for this robe to be given to Daniel as a great honor and I think that is a picture of the rapture. It also says that Babylon was overthrown that night. I believe that the interpretation of that is that one year = one day. This is reasonable because at the North pole one day does equal one year (the sun rises for six months and sets for six months). All of this is in Aramaic so I understand this to be the word to the church, whereas the chapters you are referring to are in Hebrew and are directed at the Jews.
 

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The first five chapters are in Aramaic, in those chapters Daniel doesn't eat the dainties of Babylon -- you live by every word of God. Then you have the dream of Nebuchadnezzar talking about human empires throughout history but it is destroyed by a stone not cut with hands. That takes us to the end of the Tribulation where they are all destroyed at Armageddon. Then he talks about Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego in the furnace of Fire with Jesus. Most understand them as the tribulation saints. Then you have Nebuchadnezzar being deposed and being humbled and given a heart of man and then reinstated. A nice pattern that we saw in Trump. Following that you have Beltshezzar with his orgy at the palace and the writing on the wall. We had the writing on the wall sign from 2017 to 2024 where the Alpha and Omega was written on the US. This sign has been thoroughly interpreted, won't go into it here but I have covered it extensively in my blog. He calls for this robe to be given to Daniel as a great honor and I think that is a picture of the rapture. It also says that Babylon was overthrown that night. I believe that the interpretation of that is that one year = one day. This is reasonable because at the North pole one day does equal one year (the sun rises for six months and sets for six months). All of this is in Aramaic so I understand this to be the word to the church, whereas the chapters you are referring to are in Hebrew and are directed at the Jews.
Aramaic or not, Gentiles notwithstanding, who or what is Daniel referring to here?…

Daniel 9:24-27 KJV
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. [25] Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. [26] And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. [27] And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
 

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He will be our president, not our pastor. A sinner like us all. If we compared our unrighteousness with Christ's righteousness, there'd be a vast wider gap between your alleged 'righteousness' and Trump's. So, Pharisees need not apply.
I might agree if such a large part of the Donald's platform wasn't aimed at believers. If he didn't want to be our pastor, he shouldn't have campaigned as one.
 

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The Donald is completely unhinged. He's doing exactly what we knew he would: using the power of the presidency to go after his political enemies. For the record, the J6 rioters are just thatviolent rioters and criminals who deserve to be in jail, not "hostages."

 

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The Donald is completely unhinged. He's doing exactly what we knew he would: using the power of the presidency to go after his political enemies. For the record, the J6 rioters are just thatviolent rioters and criminals who deserve to be in jail, not "hostages."

I couldn't agree more. They keep trying to downplay January 6th.
Every one of them should have been charged with sedition
 

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Aramaic or not, Gentiles notwithstanding, who or what is Daniel referring to here?…

Daniel 9:24-27 KJV
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. [25] Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. [26] And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. [27] And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
That was written in Hebrew so yes, that is referring to the Jewish nation.
 

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I might agree if such a large part of the Donald's platform wasn't aimed at believers. If he didn't want to be our pastor, he shouldn't have campaigned as one.
Trump could probably come out and say he's atheist and hates Christians and they would still find some way to excuse it.
" Well, God can use anybody'
 

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Trump could probably come out and say he's atheist and hates Christians and they would still find some way to excuse it.
" Well, God can use anybody'
" Well, God can use anybody"

Luke 8:37 Then the whole multitude of the country of the Gadarenes round about besought him to depart from them; for they were taken with great fear: and he went up into the ship, and returned back again. 38 Now the man out of whom the devils were departed besought him that he might be with him: but Jesus sent him away, saying,
39 Return to thine own house, and shew how great things God hath done unto thee. And he went his way, and published throughout the whole city how great things Jesus had done unto him.

Here is an example of a great miracle, a legion of demons is cast out of this guy and at the same time they go into the pigs, the unclean business, and all the pigs rush into the lake and drown. That is one way to drain the swamp. However, if you pray for this judgment on the unclean business all the people will be scared of Jesus. So then how will they hear the gospel? The flip side of this salvation is that the man in whom all the demons was cast out needs to be the one that brings the gospel to them. A great miracle is like a coin with two sides, the one side is the testimony about how you got saved and the other side is your testimony of how you then gave your life to the Lord.
 

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I couldn't agree more. They keep trying to downplay January 6th.
Every one of them should have been charged with sedition
What Donald Trump wants to do is what he's always done--let others do his dirty work for him. In the Meet The Press interview, he says he won't instruct his FBI Director or Attorney General to go after them; however, Trump's MO is to find people who will do his bidding without telling them directly to do it. This is how he's always operated. This is exactly what he did on J6; he used his dog whistle, which he knew the more unhinged people of the group would hear and act on. This is how cowards behave.
 

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The Donald is completely unhinged. He's doing exactly what we knew he would: using the power of the presidency to go after his political enemies. For the record, the J6 rioters are just thatviolent rioters and criminals who deserve to be in jail, not "hostages."

YOU, are the unhinged one!

And more and more so by the day, as it sinks in to your head that the majority has voted against your beloved satanic democrats.
 

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" Well, God can use anybody"

Luke 8:37 Then the whole multitude of the country of the Gadarenes round about besought him to depart from them; for they were taken with great fear: and he went up into the ship, and returned back again. 38 Now the man out of whom the devils were departed besought him that he might be with him: but Jesus sent him away, saying,
39 Return to thine own house, and shew how great things God hath done unto thee. And he went his way, and published throughout the whole city how great things Jesus had done unto him.

Here is an example of a great miracle, a legion of demons is cast out of this guy and at the same time they go into the pigs, the unclean business, and all the pigs rush into the lake and drown. That is one way to drain the swamp. However, if you pray for this judgment on the unclean business all the people will be scared of Jesus. So then how will they hear the gospel? The flip side of this salvation is that the man in whom all the demons was cast out needs to be the one that brings the gospel to them. A great miracle is like a coin with two sides, the one side is the testimony about how you got saved and the other side is your testimony of how you then gave your life to the Lord.
Cognitive dissonance and special pleading
Trump supporters will find any excuse not to hold him accountable for his unethical behavior
" God can use anyone except people who vote differently for me and those people are evil and worship Satan"
 

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Praise Jesus the valiant patriots of Jan 6th have been vindicated and shall be freed. Marvellous is the way the Lord Jesus works, let Biden's pardon stand for through it the Lord Jesus has already worked it to the advantage of the just. Consider how the Lord Jesus has used Biden's pardon to expose even all the democrats' lies again. His pardon shall stand and through this there will be an answer to that prayer for accountability, and all the mischief of the democrats has been called to remembrance and all the good guys have been vindicated. Don't underestimate the power of the vindication, for it is much better than wrath, for through vindication is legitimacy established and the mighty God of Truth, the Lord Jesus Christ, will open the prisons and deliver the oppressed and the era of blessings will commence. Praise Jesus, this thing is done by his power alone of which Trump is just a mere tool. The glory and the praise belongs to Jesus, for he is a strong God and with a strong arm he has overthrown the wicked and also delivered the faithful, praise Jesus.
 

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Cognitive dissonance and special pleading
Trump supporters will find any excuse not to hold him accountable for his unethical behavior
" God can use anyone except people who vote differently for me and those people are evil and worship Satan"
Simply believing the Bible when it says that God is the one who raises up leaders and deposes them and that God is able to give people a new heart. Yes, I believe the bible is the word of God. I believe that God can give us a new heart. I believe that the Lord can cast out demons and also clean up the dirty business. If you want to call that cognitive dissonance then you fulfill the Lord's word that people by their own wisdom did not know God.

When the Stop the Steal rallies were going on I wanted to know what it was all about and so drove four hours to see. I talked to many people, some were immigrants from Vietnam, Cuba, etc. They said they had seen this before in their countries and didn't want to see it here. Others were victims of the mortgage meltdown and had been praying for twelve years for deliverance. What I did not see was what the MSM was telling me, a bunch of racists white supremacists. I discovered that was a lie. So I figured out that people who had been praying for the Lord to do something recognized this as an answer to their prayers and those who were not praying did not. Yes there were many so called Christians condemning them, but they came across as the self righteous, the ones talking about how righteous they were and how unrighteous these other people were.
 

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Simply believing the Bible when it says that God is the one who raises up leaders and deposes them and that God is able to give people a new heart. Yes, I believe the bible is the word of God. I believe that God can give us a new heart. I believe that the Lord can cast out demons and also clean up the dirty business. If you want to call that cognitive dissonance then you fulfill the Lord's word that people by their own wisdom did not know God.
Yes and special pleading because apparently God can use anyone except people who vote differently from you. Those people are allegedly evil and Satan worshipers and all that junk