We will be like the angels, not being neither female or male.

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What does that really mean? Because I know there are female and male angels. For example in the bible. We know the angels are men. But, there is an angel that is a female in the book of revelations. She goes 'flying around' telling all men to repent.

I know one meaning, is we are all equals. No body is greater than anyone.
 
God did not view Adam and Eve as Adam and Eve. Adam did that
Genesis 5
Man in the first born flesh has been first born as if God, having the knowledge of good and evil
God has let us go and do as we think and left us in charge to get along amongst one another or not. Then took his first chosen in and gave them laws in how to act. And that got messed up also, in man figuring it out for himself and gathering others that think alike.
Took Ten Laws and made 314 more laws out of this Ten, messing it up still, and God continuing inn God's mercy and truth for us all
Then after we might, should have gotten it, that no one can be perfect ever of themselves. need God. So Son came to reconcile us all to himself first as forgiven forever from Father to us to learn new in our walk here on earth. It takes anyone to turn to God from within themselves to hear truth from God over the errors here still in this world. Bottom line to me is;'Unbelief"
Me, I am in process still, have learned much, and see to remain humble in it, giving God Farther and Son as Won all the credit in me, now able to abide by Faith, that I now exercise in trust to God over it all
Love and mercy given me, therefore in response I see and give this same love and mercy out for all, learning, learned to be wise as a serpent and remain harmless as a dove, once see the evil out there in this world that gets in people, me included that has in past. Trusting God to reveal this love to all to choose to stand with God or not consciously, thanks
And then begin learning new from Daddy's view John 4:23-24
 
Brasspen said:
What does that really mean? Because I know there are female and male angels. For example in the bible. We know the angels are men. But, there is an angel that is a female in the book of revelations. She goes 'flying around' telling all men to repent.

I know one meaning, is we are all equals. No body is greater than anyone.
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Where in Revelation do you read of an angel referred to as "she" who goes flying around' telling all men to repent? The word "angel" appears 53 times in Revelation. The nearest I could find was:

“Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth — to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people — saying with a loud voice, "Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water."” (Re 14:6-7 NKJV)

As you see, the angel is not called "she". Perhaps you had another Revelation passage in mind, but I couldn't find one angel called "she", or an angel saying "Repent," come to that.
 
No I can't find it. I do google search it say, never said it. Just because nobody witnessed one, don't mean their not. When was the last time any of you went into heaven to look around?

If it was me, I would keep my women at home.
 
I don't think there are female angels. There are angels that are still in heaven and I believe angels that left their first estate and married the daughters of men, these angels are those that joined the Devil afterwards I believe (though I'm not entirely sure about this) (Revelation 12 KJV - the Devil and his angels) with four I believe being under the Euphrates chained. I think they might all be described as being reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day (Jude KJV).
 
LeeLoving said:
I don't think there are female angels. There are angels that are still in heaven and I believe angels that left their first estate and married the daughters of men, these angels are those that joined the Devil afterwards I believe (though I'm not entirely sure about this) (Revelation 12 KJV - the Devil and his angels) with four I believe being under the Euphrates chained. I think they might all be described as being reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day (Jude KJV).
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I'm actually not sure if they all joined the Devil afterward. I just know the Devil apparently has angels. I assume they would be these ones that left their first estate, assuming these are the ones that indeed married the daughters of men in Genesis.
 
Also did you mean that in the first resurrection we will neither marry nor be given in marriage (not be neither male nor female), if I got that right? (looked at Matthew 22:30 KJV on BibleGateway, but it might have an error in it or something since I'm not taking it directly from the Bible)
 
Yes this is what I am talking about, what Jesus said. It's hard to believe that God would turn all the women, into men.
 
DavidLamb said:
“Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth — to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people — saying with a loud voice, "Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water."” (Re 14:6-7 NKJV)
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Yes, this was the one I was thinking of.
 
LeeLoving said:
I think it just means that they won't marry, like the angels in heaven don't marry.
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This is what I think too, but, Jesus also said we don't die anymore. Meaning we don't have kids anymore. But it could be, that we don't marry because, we would never seperate.

But because they don't marry, don't mean they don't have some relationship thing going.

Come to think about, it's only assumed that it means there is no sex or anything. The scriptures never said it was.
 
Brasspen said:
This is what I think too, but, Jesus also said we don't die anymore. Meaning we don't have kids anymore. But it could be, that we don't marry because, we would never seperate.

But because they don't marry, don't mean they don't have some relationship thing going.

Come to think about, it's only assumed that it means there is no sex or anything. The scriptures never said it was.
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Well the scripture says that people will be like the angels in heaven, so I think the natural conclusion is that there is no marriage, since they are presumably unmarried. I don't really get it myself.
 
All angels in scripture are in the masculine gender, there are no female angels which, is one of the reasons there is no marriage for angels. But in heaven, we are in perfect union with Christ and therefore have no need of any other union.

We do not change gender, males will remain males, females will remain female.

I believe we will recognise each other in the same way Peter, John and James were able to recognise Moses and Elijah at the mount of transfiguration even though they had never met.

Matthew 17:4
So Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you want, I will make three shelters—one for you, one for Moses, and one for Elijah.”
 
DavidLamb said:
Where in Revelation do you read of an angel referred to as "she" who goes flying around' telling all men to repent? The word "angel" appears 53 times in Revelation. The nearest I could find was:

“Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth — to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people — saying with a loud voice, "Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water."” (Re 14:6-7 NKJV)

As you see, the angel is not called "she". Perhaps you had another Revelation passage in mind, but I couldn't find one angel called "she", or an angel saying "Repent," come to that.
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there are NO references to an angel REFERRED TO AS SHE anywhere in scripture... there is a reference in one of the apocraphal books, and an obscure passage somewhere in O.T that some claim is a female angel but no real clear passages.
THE BATTLE RAGES TIL THE LION ROARS!!!
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Thanks. I certainly couldn't. I have a bible program on my computer which allows me to search for all verses in Revelation that include the word "angel". There are 53, as I said, and not one of them refers to the angel as "she
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Yes, it's confirmed. No where. Everyone for hundreds have said it. Obvious, it's right there. I DON'T KNOW WHERE I SEEN IT. I know it was revelations. But why did I see it. Because it's not there.

And like I said, if it was me, I would keep my women at home. One reason for it, is the devil he's angels are here. We know the devil tempts the angels too.
 
I met an angel once and it was a male so based on that which isn't much and all the times an angel is mentioned in scripture it is always a male so I suppose angels are all males
 
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DavidLamb said:
Thanks. I certainly couldn't. I have a bible program on my computer which allows me to search for all verses in Revelation that include the word "angel". There are 53, as I said, and not one of them refers to the angel as "she."
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what program is that it sounds really handy
 
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