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America isn't a city. It cant be babylon the great.

Read the thread man:

LINK ::: MYSTERY, BABYLON

1. Jerusalem rules the nations through lending money.
2. Jerusalem kills the prophets and saints.
3. Jerusalem is the "great city" where Jesus was killed.
4. Jerusalem sits on 7 mountains.
5. Jerusalem is described as a whore in the Bible.
6. Jerusalem's priests wore purple, red, precious stones, and gold.
7. Jerusalem drinks the cup of wrath.
8. Jerusalem's lovers, the kings of the earth, turn on her to destroy her.
9. Jerusalem is called "Babylon" by Peter in 1 Peter 5:13
Galatians 4:26 *But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

So if Jerusalem is a whore, does that make believers in Jesus Christ bastards?
 
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Galatians 4:26 *But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

So if Jerusalem is a whore, does that make believers in Jesus Christ bastards?
Only if you believe in the Talmud!
 
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Lets nit pic about semantics then New York is and has been the home of The Economic Empire for over 100 years it was the first major city of the New world and grew to be the economic giant we have today. She has many cities/nations under her control and they all submit to her. Until recently the world had only 3 truly global economic centers Rome, London and New York.
Semantics? Lol. No.

And your God as three "entities" isn't semantics, either. It's tritheism.
 
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Semantics? Lol. No.

And your God as three "entities" isn't semantics, either. It's tritheism.
Nope sorry its the way it is God is the father Jesus is his son and The holy spirit is Gods spirit simple as that no miracle just simple logic not three Gods but one who is the source of all it's all interpretation
 
Feb 23, 2011
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Nope sorry its the way it is God is the father Jesus is his son and The holy spirit is Gods spirit simple as that no miracle just simple logic not three Gods but one who is the source of all it's all interpretation
Right. No "entities" or "persons".
 
Feb 23, 2011
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OK have it your way I think I will stick with my own thoughts on this 1 though
Okay. Most do... making it merely a matter of opinion and soulish assent of the mind rather than true revelation unto salvific faith.
 
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Okay. Most do... making it merely a matter of opinion and soulish assent of the mind rather than true revelation unto salvific faith.
Oh I see ..........my convictions don't jive with yours.... so........ I know little and will never reach salvation is that it?
Perhaps what is lacking on your end is perception awareness of the grammatical overlay of the scriptures in English which indicate many many many times about He who sits on the right hand of the Father
Hmmmm............... is God beside himself?..................nope that can't be it..........hmmm...................... well they must be referring To Jesus......................hmmmmmm
yep yep thats gotta be it.....huh huh huh
 
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Oh I see ..........my convictions don't jive with yours.... so........ I know little and will never reach salvation is that it?
Perhaps what is lacking on your end is perception awareness of the grammatical overlay of the scriptures in English which indicate many many many times about He who sits on the right hand of the Father
Hmmmm............... is God beside himself?..................nope that can't be it..........hmmm...................... well they must be referring To Jesus......................hmmmmmm
yep yep thats gotta be it.....huh huh huh
Right hand is dexios (G1188). It's not a location.

Are you contending that the Father has a physical form and is actually side-by-side with the Theoanthropos, Jesus? There are two Theoanthropi? Is the HS yet a third side-by-side form? Where IS the Holy Spirit God-"person" in eternity? Hovering or floating around? Why doesn't He have a throne or sit in the Father's throne as Jesus does? Is He not co-equal and co-eternal as formulated by man's Trinity doctrine?

And why do you interchange God and Father?

God manifested the complete divine substance of His ONE Self in flesh. That God-man had a rational human soul derived from spirit-body joining. After His earthly life, he ascended to heaven and is the specific personal focal point of God's omnipresence as Spirit. He and the Father are IN each other, not beside each other (with the HS unaccounted for).

I'm not being condescending. Trinity is just grossly incomplete. It's inference and conceptualization. Pray Ephesians 1:17+ for the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him.

Just because God embodied Himself within creation doesn't mean He's plural, regardless of semantics claims. God is not conjoined triplets.
 
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What a load of hooey and misinterpreted lies and deciept your antisemitism shows right through Doc.
Well you've just come right out of the woodwork havn't you?

The tired old charge of anti-SEMITE-ism?

Show me a single place I have showed prejudice or discrimination against any group based on their RACIAL qualities? Especially brown eye/skin/hair colour?

1 nope that would be New york and her central banks tied in with the European Banks run by the same old people not a talmudic regime but a conglomerate that goes back to 1913 and the Likes of J.D. Rockefeller, Paul Warburg and the boys instituting their idea of world domination not Jerusalem Get over the talmudic regime crap!
Yep, the bankers are pharisees. Rothschild, warburg etc...Rocefeller is their american agent. Same old people...all answer to Jerusalem.

2 cities don't kill people people kill people
The city represents the people obviously. In this case, talmudists

3 Jesus was crucified outside the city at Golgotha not in Jerusalem itself. LIE
Desperation. It's Jerusalem. It certainly aint New York! lolz.

4 Go to google earth there are not 7 mountains around Jerusalem count again. LIE
How many are there then?

5 Babylon is the great whore not Jerusalem. LIE
Theres no such place as babylon. Unless your talking about ancient babylon? Are you? I only see Jerusalem being called a whore. It is compared to ancient babylon because of its idolatry.

6 The priests also wore white as well LAME CONJECTURE
Go to the temple institute site to see the vestments for the revived priesthood once the 3rd temple gets built.

7 show this cup of wrath. It hasn't happened yet so this statement is garbage
It's prophecied in the OT, I've shown details for all of this in the thread I linked to. Maybe you would like to take me on there?

8Jerusalem has very few lovers only those involved in the big three monotheistic religions New York on the other hand.......................
Lolz...New York cant have lovers and cant be a whore coz its not a religious system that is betrothed to God.

9 Don't see peter calling Jerusalem the great babylon anywhere here in my book doc. B.S.
Why does he call it babylon at all.

Your being a little bit crude here Musky. I thought this was a discussion, why are you getting so emotional?

NEW YORK on the other hand a case could be made very easily in repose and 2/3 of the world would agree with that when laid out in front of them.
Who's bankers have duped the world, Who's lack of moral fibre and denegration the whole world now shares in with it being the largest propegator of pornography on the planet. The U.N. head quarters is where?....................THAT'S RIGHT NEW YORK.......Who's armies have been stomping on the countries of the world for over 65 years making lots of bitter enemies throughout in the process.
The bankers are talmudic pharisees. New York doesnt have its own armies, the entire world lacks moral fibre, the U.N. is promoting talmudic NOAHIDE LAW and you would rather identify the Mother of Harlots using your own philosophies rather than scripture.

Good day.
 
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1. Yes the people of Revelations 2:9 do rule the nations through money, put it is not the nation to trample all other nations, as ancient Babylon did.
2. When the Jews came to America on ships there were still in fact prophets, and they were slain.
3. When it said Crucified it means America took upon the name of God. They are a blasphemous nation, and when they constantly sin over and over they crucify God. This wicked nation took the name of Jesus, and crucified him daily.
4. The seven mountains are not literal mountains.
5. When it said Jerusalem it meant the people.
6. Not every priest, and if they did mainly it was the Pharisees.
7. So will all nations, mainly Babylon the Great.
8. What are you talking about?
9. "The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you; and so doth Marcus my son." No where is this verse condemning Jerusalem nor calling it Babylon.

You can believe America is not Babylon the Great and Sodom, that is your choice. I will no longer try to convince people of this fact, it is up to you what you want to believe. Just make sure what you believe in is true.
All is explained in the relevant thread:

LINK ::: MYSTERY, BABYLON

I suggest you post your concerns there AFTER reading it.
 
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Lets nit pic about semantics then New York is and has been the home of The Economic Empire for over 100 years it was the first major city of the New world and grew to be the economic giant we have today. She has many cities/nations under her control and they all submit to her. Until recently the world had only 3 truly global economic centers Rome, London and New York.
Pharisee controlled LONDON is the economic capital of the world.
 
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What is New York really but a modern interpretation of Rome look at the Architecture of its great buildings very reminiscent of Rome itself not to mention the Statue of liberty itself kinda odd coincidence eh?
Look into FREEMASONRY.

Its an apostate hebrew institution.
 
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Galatians 4:26 *But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

So if Jerusalem is a whore, does that make believers in Jesus Christ bastards?
Jerusalem BELOW is the whore.....

....obviously.
 
Aug 12, 2010
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Glad this has turned into a trinity debate.

Go to the right thread to discuss the whore.
 
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Glad this has turned into a trinity debate.

Go to the right thread to discuss the whore.
With a title like this, a thread can be just about anything. There are several universal topics that any thread can devolve to:

Godhead, Eschatology, Election, etc.

That's why you're able to address virtually any thread topic and relate it to the imminent end-times Talmudic agenda like opposers accuse you of. The above emphases fit any thread topic, especially one as nebulous as this one.
 
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Lets nit pic about semantics then New York is and has been the home of The Economic Empire for over 100 years it was the first major city of the New world and grew to be the economic giant we have today. She has many cities/nations under her control and they all submit to her. Until recently the world had only 3 truly global economic centers Rome, London and New York.
and those 3 have been preparing to seat the queen.
 

zone

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Right hand is dexios (G1188). It's not a location.

Are you contending that the Father has a physical form and is actually side-by-side with the Theoanthropos, Jesus? There are two Theoanthropi? Is the HS yet a third side-by-side form? Where IS the Holy Spirit God-"person" in eternity? Hovering or floating around? Why doesn't He have a throne or sit in the Father's throne as Jesus does? Is He not co-equal and co-eternal as formulated by man's Trinity doctrine?

And why do you interchange God and Father?

God manifested the complete divine substance of His ONE Self in flesh. That God-man had a rational human soul derived from spirit-body joining. After His earthly life, he ascended to heaven and is the specific personal focal point of God's omnipresence as Spirit. He and the Father are IN each other, not beside each other (with the HS unaccounted for).

I'm not being condescending. Trinity is just grossly incomplete. It's inference and conceptualization. Pray Ephesians 1:17+ for the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him.

Just because God embodied Himself within creation doesn't mean He's plural, regardless of semantics claims. God is not conjoined triplets.
i enjoyed this one pps.
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zone

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With a title like this, a thread can be just about anything. There are several universal topics that any thread can devolve to:

Godhead, Eschatology, Election, etc.

That's why you're able to address virtually any thread topic and relate it to the imminent end-times Talmudic agenda like opposers accuse you of. The above emphases fit any thread topic, especially one as nebulous as this one.
this is true.
and thats the nature of a single bible discussion forum.
lotsa cross-talk.
i'm fine with it.
 
Feb 23, 2011
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this is true.
and thats the nature of a single bible discussion forum.
lotsa cross-talk.
i'm fine with it.
Agreed. EVERY topic leads back to God's redemptive plan for mankind because of "the great love wherewith He hath loved us". Hence... Godhead, Eschatology, Election... All crucial and interrelated.

This forum is particularly diverse going INTO any thread.