How do you believe someone is of the elect
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His Name is I Am, which encompasses I Was and I Will Be
God's omnipresence coupled with His omniscience establishes the possibility of all things that are possible.
Well, in the age of 17 I heared the first time that I need to believe in Jesus. I willently refused Him. If you had met me in this time you probably would have say thst I am not elect.
7 years later I heared again from Jesus as my Savior. Praise the Lord, he gave me the understanding for his deed at the cross and adopted me in his worldwide family!
So I would say. So long someone is alife there is the possibility that he turn to Christ. And shows that he is electet.
I get that. But how does that relate to what the verse is saying?
To foreknow means to know ahead of time. The use of the word whom indicates that the foreknowledge is concerning people, and not information.
So the verse is teaching that sometime prior to the verse being written, God foreknew people. So, do you know any verses that would suggest when that might be?
Going back to the becoming one illustration, a father, ideally, gives his daughter to one that loves her and, ideally, he gives a bride that he knows loves him, so that they indeed, in every aspect, become one.
Likewise. You've yet to leave me considering my identity as a full-blown human.
xplain my perspective just a little further, I can accept the possibility that our will may not be 'free' but I don't think anyone denies that we indeed have a will, inherently designed into our being. And, I believe that God, having gifted it to us in the first place, does hold it with special interest in the return of it, wherein His initial investment into it is love, and those that value it as what it is, true, rather than dismiss it or discount it or pass it off for myth, reciprocate with their own investment into Him, trusting Him with their lives, even as far as their wills.
I understand your position.Likewise. You've yet to leave me considering my identity as a full-blown human.
xplain my perspective just a little further, I can accept the possibility that our will may not be 'free' but I don't think anyone denies that we indeed have a will, inherently designed into our being. And, I believe that God, having gifted it to us in the first place, does hold it with special interest in the return of it, wherein His initial investment into it is love, and those that value it as what it is, true, rather than dismiss it or discount it or pass it off for myth, reciprocate with their own investment into Him, trusting Him with their lives, even as far as their wills.
And I believe you are mostly human.
