Matthew 24:42 Watch therefore, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.

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Omegatime

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But now, Lord, you are our Father. We are the clay, and you are our potter. We are the work of your hands. Isaiah 64:8

The Jews knew the Father, but few found the Son

Now we are in the age of the Gentiles, many know the Son but few know the Father
 

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We will not know the day but the Bible says we shall know the times::

read the following portion of scripture and not the part i bold::

(1 Thessalonians 5:1-6) "But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. {2} For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. {3} For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. {4} But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. {5} Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. {6} Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober."

The call to watch and be sober is because God has given us many of the signs that will be happening just before the times of His return and we should not be in the darkness because we are Children of the Light being readers of His Holy Word and having the guidance of the Holy Spirit to help us in all understanding.. Scripture tells us to look up into the sky during the those time because we shall know that out LORD draws near..

(Luke 21:28) "And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh."

Take some time to read the Chapter Luke 21 and see all the signs mentioned before you reach verse 28.. Holy Spirit lead followers of the LORD Jesus will not be caught by surprise when the LORD returns.. While we shall not know the hour or the day we shall know the times for sure..
 

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Why wouldn't we know??
First of all , it's part of our faith , to believe what God has said without actually having any completely irrefutable proof . We have to have faith in God and trust Him to fulfill His promises .
Also , the day when we physically die will b the day when Jesus returns as far as we r concerned . One minute we will b alive , the next we will physically die , the next we will b ressurected . So that day , the day of our death , is different for everyone , though the day of ressurection will b the same one for all of us .
 

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Jesus - "All authority in heaven and on earth, has been given to me."

When Jesus spoke "no one knows.. not even the Son" He did not know that Day. Now that He has ascended to the Father and all authority was given to Him, He now knows the Day. But the question remains: has He made the day known to men?

Consider, also, that the Lord said "No one knows..." Present tense. Like "No one currently knows".

“But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only."

Notice He said not man > the angels > the Son... only the Father.

Then, after all authority in heaven and on earth was given to Him, He revealed this to John:

"The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servant things which must shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John..."

So, here the order is reversed: Father > Son > angels > man (John)

The Son knows the Day now. We WILL know the day, just as those in the light are not overtaken by the thief, when the Son reveals it to all who believe. We certainly won't have enough lead time to make a mini-series or a best-settling book about it but we will know.
 

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Jesus - "All authority in heaven and on earth, has been given to me."

When Jesus spoke "no one knows.. not even the Son" He did not know that Day. Now that He has ascended to the Father and all authority was given to Him, He now knows the Day. But the question remains: has He made the day known to men?

Consider, also, that the Lord said "No one knows..." Present tense. Like "No one currently knows".

“But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only."

Notice He said not man > the angels > the Son... only the Father.

Then, after all authority in heaven and on earth was given to Him, He revealed this to John:

"The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servant things which must shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John..."

So, here the order is reversed: Father > Son > angels > man (John)

The Son knows the Day now. We WILL know the day, just as those in the light are not overtaken by the thief, when the Son reveals it to all who believe. We certainly won't have enough lead time to make a mini-series or a best-settling book about it but we will know.
------------------------------------------------ So, what you are saying is Lord Jesus was not God, for God is all knowing
 

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43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.
 

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Deut. 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.

Mark 12:29 ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.

John 10:30 Father and I are one.

Isaiah 9
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

John 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made

Joh 17:21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one—
 

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------------------------------------------------ So, what you are saying is Lord Jesus was not God, for God is all knowing
He is most certainly God.

When He was in the flesh of man He did not have all authority in heaven and on earth. He deferred to the Father. So, He did not know the Day at that time. Remember: "[He was] a little lower than the angels." All authority was given to Him after His resurrection.

I could write pages about this but let me summarize...

This is all about the mechanics of the Redemption of Man.

For something to be true in the earth it must first be true in heaven. Now, heaven is also created, so we are not talking about being true in eternity: only true in heaven and on earth.

Creation was created for the single purpose of containing the work/grace of the Lord which included God having children. He decided His children would be men inhabited by His own Spirit and be of His likeness and His character.

Before man fell, the price for man's redemption was paid by the Son of God.

"..the Lamb slain from the Foundation of the Earth."

So, man was made and God knew he would need redeemed. To combine these two thoughts: God chose to have sons from men who would be, because of sin and corruption, incompatible with Himself.

But, because Death and Hell had a right to both kill and capture men in sin - sin that was inherited through the flesh of Adam - the Redeemer must also appear in the flesh of Adam and subject to all temptations of man. That is to say: He must also appear in the flesh in the earth as a witness to God's redemption. If He appeared as a god in the earth, then man could not relate to Him: He would not be a kinsman redeemer because He would have a different nature than the man He was trying to redeem.

Indeed, it was never His natural-self that revealed His true nature, it was only by the Spirit that man would know Him

Jesus - “But who do you say that I am?”
Peter - "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven."


Furthermore, it was not only true that the nature of Jesus was hidden in God BUT THAT OUR NATURE (like Peter's) IS HIDDEN IN GOD AS WELL:

Jesus continued: "And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”

So, it's not that man would simply be saved from sin but that he would also be reinstated into God's eternal plan.

This is the brilliance of God!

Because Jesus, in the flesh of man, remained the spotless Lamb of God even through all temptation in the earth, He was then, upon His resurrection, given all authority in heaven and on earth... over all creation. The witness in the earth was complete: what is true in heaven was true in the earth. Now, because of His life, we KNOW that Jesus Christ is the Son of God sent to redeem man from sin and death.

Of course, we have the benefit of the scriptures. Then, they did not.

To be brief: we are saved from sin for a purpose and that purpose is to represent - to present again - God before man. And by this, be ambassadors of the Kingdom of God the Son.

Back to the question: was Jesus the man fully God in the flesh? The answer is "Yes" but that truth wasn't revealed in the earth until after His resurrection... it was revealed in the Spirit but not in the earth. Once that truth was revealed THEN He was given all authority in heaven and on earth. And because He was raised not a "new man" but as a life-giving Spirit, all who receive Him can now be included in Him. If He was just raised another man there would be no room in Him. Lastly, as His flesh and bones, we receive the same grace that is in Him.

This only occurs if Jesus the man dies and is raised Christ Jesus the life-giving Spirit.

I envisioned this as a paragraph yet I still feel I summarized too much. :D
 

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43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.
And then the Lord gave Paul to write:

But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you. 2For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. 3For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape. 4But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief. 5You are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness. 6Therefore let us not sleep, as others do, but let us watch and be sober.
 

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Why wouldn't we know??
Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

( here’s the lesson ) Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his Lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? Blessed is that servant, whom his Lord when he cometh shall find so doing. Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.

But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My Lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; the Lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, and shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:42-51‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Contemporary verses always help

“But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.


Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is. ( we’re meant to always be prepared as if he could return tomorrow )

For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch.

Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning: lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭13:32-37‬ ‭KJV‬‬

then as we hear the epistles regarding each concept , again it adds to the understanding

“But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. ( no one knows when a thief will come in the night but it’s always possible )

For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.”
‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭5:1-6, 8‬ ‭

and even more epistles help more details of the understanding

“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:9-11, 13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

it’s meant to keep us from becoming complacent and keep pressing upon us to move forward and act . It also proves a good thing to keep us from being distracted by those predicting times and events and seasons which really can pull us away from the doctrine we’re meant tomlewrn and believe
 

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It reminds me of how the students in the classroom are making a big noise and throwing paper balls. Then, the teacher returns unnoticed. And, she also announced to everyone that she heard everyone on the speaker.
 

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Festival of Pentecost is only one of the Lord's feasts that is not set by a calendar day and changes every year/

Count begins on the Sunday ( first day of the week) following Passover and counting seven Sabbaths
 
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Why wouldn't we know??
The reason no one knows exactly when the day and the hour of the Judgment (Judgment Day) will be -- except for Father (God) -- should be self-evident.

IF it was common-knowledge, Lucifer/Satan get people to try to change it.

And the reason Christ Himself knew the day and hour of Judgment, then Lucifer/Satan would get people to torture Him during His Second Coming for that information, or try to murder Him in advance of Judgment Day.

Sadly, many have misinterpreted the Scripture in this regard to believe that no one knows the day and the hour of Christ's Second Coming, even though Christ would obviously knew in advance when He would come again BEFORE Judgment Day, and gave His Disciples prophetic signs of exactly when that would be.

https://gibraltar-messenger.net/jahtruth/the-scriptural-marks-of-christ/

IF one read all of Matthew 24, with spiritual eyes, they should see this.

Excerpts below:

Matthew 24:1-3
24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from The Temple: and his disciples came to [him] for to show him the buildings of The Temple.
24:2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
24:3 And as he sat upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what [shall be] the Sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world*?

*Christ's promised/prophesied Second Coming, right before Judgment Day, when we are ALL due to be judged (by Christ - John 5:22)

Matthew 24:27-44
24:27 For as the lightening cometh out of the East, and shineth even unto the West; so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be.
24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the "sun" be darkened, and the "moon" shall not give her light, and the "stars" shall fall from heaven, and the "powers of the heavens" shall be shaken:
24:30 And then shall appear the Sign ("Star") of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall ALL the tribes of the Earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of Man coming in the "Clouds" of heaven with power and great glory.
24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet (7th.), and they shall gather together his Elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
24:32 Now learn a parable of the Fig tree (Jews); When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves (1948), ye know that Summer [is] nigh:
24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it (the end) is near, [even] at the doors.
24:34 Verily I say unto you, THIS generation (from 1948 on) shall not pass, till ALL these things be fulfilled.
24:35 Heaven and Earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
24:36 But of That Day and Hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father ONLY.
24:37 But as the days of Noah [were], so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be.
24:38 For as in the days that were before The Flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,
24:39 And knew not until The Flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be.
24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
24:41 Two [women shall be] grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
24:44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of Man cometh.

There are at least three prophetic signs given in just this passage alone to Christ's Disciples explaining exactly when He would return, and what the world would be like during His Second Coming right before the end of the world as we presently know it [6000 years of "Winter" (the season of death and decay), before the 1000-year reign of Christ during the Sabbath millennium, aka "Summer" (the season of enlightenment, growth and maturity).

In verse 27 we are told that His Second Coming will ENLIGHTEN the whole world (the great awakening spoken of in Dan. 12:1-2 KJV) just as the sun rises in the East and shines forth its LIGHT unto the West.

In verse 28 we are told that when Christ is finished using the new body (from Joseph-Ephraim - Gen. 49:10; 22-24) with a NEW NAME (Rev. 2:17; 3:12; 19:12), He will shed that body/carcase and be seen "coming in the clouds with great glory" and the "heavenly host", which is when the REAPING will begin (v. 29-31).

In verses 32-34 we are given the "fig-tree" prophecy (the fig-tree represents the "Jews" in Scripture - see: Jeremiah 24), which was fulfilled on April 22, 1948, when the announcement went out to the world that the Jewish state in the Middle East would be set up on May 14, 1948.

Our current times are then likened to "the days of Noah", when the Earth was FILLED with violence, arrogance and an almost complete lack of wisdom (ignorance), except for Noah and his immediate family. Exactly the situation we find again today, on the brink of the final phase of WW3 and with almost everyone clueless to the fact our leaders (political, religious and worldly) are leading us astray, TO OUR DESTRUCTION (Isa. 3:12).

There would be absolutely no reason to tell us to watch, and to be ready, and that IF we are ready we won't be taken by surprise by Christ's Second Coming, if all of the above that's been shared in this post wasn't unequivocally true.

THINK about it.
 

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Why wouldn't we know??
We can know the general time from the signs, but we cannot know the day or the hour, only the Father knows that:


Matthew 24:36
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.