Numbers that Matter---Daniel 12:12 - Blessed Day
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I think the hardest thing to understand is the timing of the resurrection. But this is how he shortened the days for us and it happens at the last moment of the 7th trumpet before the bowl judgements at Rev 14:14
This day of Pentecost in 2029 begins the Day of the Lord for 1000 years but set a different timetable for the antichrist
This day of Pentecost in 2029 begins the Day of the Lord for 1000 years but set a different timetable for the antichrist
Day of the Lord is pretty clear that it wont come till the antichrist takes his seat in the Temple. ( middle of the 7) Dan 9:27
2 Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our assembling to meet him, we beg you, brethren, 2 not to be quickly shaken in mind or excited, either by spirit or by word, or by letter purporting to be from us to the effect that the day of the Lord has come.
3 Let no one deceive you in any way; for that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness[a] is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God
2 Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our assembling to meet him, we beg you, brethren, 2 not to be quickly shaken in mind or excited, either by spirit or by word, or by letter purporting to be from us to the effect that the day of the Lord has come.
3 Let no one deceive you in any way; for that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness[a] is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God
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Hasn't yet because the Temple has to be built first
For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life.
Leviticus 17:11
Daily sacrifices in the Temple of God are the core of the Jewish faith. The Temple of God is the only place where the Jewish people are allowed to offer animal sacrifices to God. Every part of their lives revolves around the Temple. God commands that burnt offerings (animal sacrifices) must be a permanent statute for the Jewish people to perform in order to receive forgiveness of sins (iniquity). These sacrifices are required twice daily and a special sacrifice, called Yom Kippur is required once every year.
Hasn't yet because the Temple has to be built first
For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life.
Leviticus 17:11
Daily sacrifices in the Temple of God are the core of the Jewish faith. The Temple of God is the only place where the Jewish people are allowed to offer animal sacrifices to God. Every part of their lives revolves around the Temple. God commands that burnt offerings (animal sacrifices) must be a permanent statute for the Jewish people to perform in order to receive forgiveness of sins (iniquity). These sacrifices are required twice daily and a special sacrifice, called Yom Kippur is required once every year.
Actually, the Daily Sacrifice hasn't stopped because Jesus provided the Sacrifice that extends day by day until His Return.
But for Prophecy purposes, until the Jews accept Jesus as their Messiah they will build a 3rd Temple and resume their Mosaic Sacrifices. We know this because the Temple of the Daily Sacrifice is in connection to when the Man of Sin\Beast\antichrist goes into the Temple and proclaims to the entire world that he is God.
That has never happened so we know it's a ((future))... ((event)).
But for Prophecy purposes, until the Jews accept Jesus as their Messiah they will build a 3rd Temple and resume their Mosaic Sacrifices. We know this because the Temple of the Daily Sacrifice is in connection to when the Man of Sin\Beast\antichrist goes into the Temple and proclaims to the entire world that he is God.
That has never happened so we know it's a ((future))... ((event)).
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Numbers that Matter
Feeding of the 4 & 5 Thousand--Miracle of Multiplication
Lord does nothing without foretelling his servants the future. Take Malachi 4:2 for example.
But for you who fear my name the sun of righteousness shall rise, with healing in its wings ( or rays ). You shall go forth leaping like calves from the stall (grave).
I see this scripture as being meant for the Hebrews and telling of a future resurrection. On that Passover weekend I also see a time element being spoken. Notice the word sun and not son. Not an error in translation; Lord was saying the sun being made on the fourth day, predicted his entry and coming into Jerusalem on that Passover after 4000 years, also the revolution of the year.
Parables and stories are there to alert us things which are shortly coming to pass and for me none is greater than the story of the feeding of the 4 and 5 thousand.
“Why do you discuss the fact that you have no bread? Do you not yet perceive or understand? Are your hearts hardened? 18 Having eyes do you not see, and having ears do you not hear? And do you not remember? 19 When I broke the five loaves for the five thousand, how many baskets full of broken pieces did you take up?” They said to him, “Twelve.” 20 “And the seven for the four thousand, how many baskets full of broken pieces did you take up?” And they said to him, “Seven.” 21 And he said to them, “Do you not yet understand?” Mark 8
What a question? Do you not understand? Well, first the baskets. From the Greek manuscripts we see a portent concering the baskets. The basket used to feed the 5000 was a kophino, and the basket used to feed the 4000 was a spuris. This holds true in all 4 gospels whenever the baskets are mentioned, as well in the book of Acts. The kophino basket used to feed the 5000 was jewish because when the people followed Jesus across Lake Tiberius he was asked questions only a jew was asked, such as, " Our ancestors ate manna in the wilderness
Feeding of the 4 & 5 Thousand--Miracle of Multiplication
Lord does nothing without foretelling his servants the future. Take Malachi 4:2 for example.
But for you who fear my name the sun of righteousness shall rise, with healing in its wings ( or rays ). You shall go forth leaping like calves from the stall (grave).
I see this scripture as being meant for the Hebrews and telling of a future resurrection. On that Passover weekend I also see a time element being spoken. Notice the word sun and not son. Not an error in translation; Lord was saying the sun being made on the fourth day, predicted his entry and coming into Jerusalem on that Passover after 4000 years, also the revolution of the year.
Parables and stories are there to alert us things which are shortly coming to pass and for me none is greater than the story of the feeding of the 4 and 5 thousand.
“Why do you discuss the fact that you have no bread? Do you not yet perceive or understand? Are your hearts hardened? 18 Having eyes do you not see, and having ears do you not hear? And do you not remember? 19 When I broke the five loaves for the five thousand, how many baskets full of broken pieces did you take up?” They said to him, “Twelve.” 20 “And the seven for the four thousand, how many baskets full of broken pieces did you take up?” And they said to him, “Seven.” 21 And he said to them, “Do you not yet understand?” Mark 8
What a question? Do you not understand? Well, first the baskets. From the Greek manuscripts we see a portent concering the baskets. The basket used to feed the 5000 was a kophino, and the basket used to feed the 4000 was a spuris. This holds true in all 4 gospels whenever the baskets are mentioned, as well in the book of Acts. The kophino basket used to feed the 5000 was jewish because when the people followed Jesus across Lake Tiberius he was asked questions only a jew was asked, such as, " Our ancestors ate manna in the wilderness
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As for the basket used to feed the 4000, Jesus had left the area of Tyre and Sidon in Lebanon and approached the area of Decapolis. Decapolis was a group of ten cities given to the Greeks for their assistance during the times of conquering the territory. When Apostle Paul was fleeing Damascus, he was let down over the wall in a spuris basket---A Gentile basket in a Gentile city. So we can easily say the kophino basket used to feed the 5000 was jewish and the spuris basket jused to feed the 4000 was Gentile. Strongs Concordance for kophino is #2894 and for spuris #4711.
Now to the feeding of the 4 & 5 thousand. If the Lord had wanted,He could have made it come out to the very crumb as to what was needed to feed the multitude. The miracle was the multiplication of food and we will feed them just as Jesus did! The jews were fed with 5 loaves and 2 fish, and the gentiles with 7 loaves and a few (2) fish.
Feeding of the 5000
5 loaves times 2 fish = 10
5000 divided by 10 = 500 ( Lord divided it among the 5000)
500 times 12 baskets left over = 6000 ( Blessings multiplied)
6000 years
For in so many days the world was made, in so many thousand years shall it be concluded. Irenaeus, taught by Polycarp a hearer of Apostle John
Attend, my children, to the meaning of this expression, He finished in six days. This implies that the Lord will finish all things in six thousand years, for a day is with Him a thousand years. And He Himself testifies, saying, Behold, today will be as a thousand years. Therefore, my children, in six days, that is, in six thousand years, all things will be finished. And He rested on the seventh day. This means: when His Son, coming [again], shall destroy the time of the wicked man, and judge the ungodly, and change the-sun, and the moon, and the stars, then shall He truly rest on the seventh day. Barnabas--named an apostle in Acts 14
Feeding of the 4000
7 loaves times 2 fish = 14
4000 divided by 14 = 285.7143
Blessing left over are multiplied
7 baskets left over times 285.7143 =2000
2000 years
This is the number of years till his return. This time is called--The time of the gentiles, all are gentile christians in this story of the 4000..
As for the basket used to feed the 4000, Jesus had left the area of Tyre and Sidon in Lebanon and approached the area of Decapolis. Decapolis was a group of ten cities given to the Greeks for their assistance during the times of conquering the territory. When Apostle Paul was fleeing Damascus, he was let down over the wall in a spuris basket---A Gentile basket in a Gentile city. So we can easily say the kophino basket used to feed the 5000 was jewish and the spuris basket jused to feed the 4000 was Gentile. Strongs Concordance for kophino is #2894 and for spuris #4711.
Now to the feeding of the 4 & 5 thousand. If the Lord had wanted,He could have made it come out to the very crumb as to what was needed to feed the multitude. The miracle was the multiplication of food and we will feed them just as Jesus did! The jews were fed with 5 loaves and 2 fish, and the gentiles with 7 loaves and a few (2) fish.
Feeding of the 5000
5 loaves times 2 fish = 10
5000 divided by 10 = 500 ( Lord divided it among the 5000)
500 times 12 baskets left over = 6000 ( Blessings multiplied)
6000 years
For in so many days the world was made, in so many thousand years shall it be concluded. Irenaeus, taught by Polycarp a hearer of Apostle John
Attend, my children, to the meaning of this expression, He finished in six days. This implies that the Lord will finish all things in six thousand years, for a day is with Him a thousand years. And He Himself testifies, saying, Behold, today will be as a thousand years. Therefore, my children, in six days, that is, in six thousand years, all things will be finished. And He rested on the seventh day. This means: when His Son, coming [again], shall destroy the time of the wicked man, and judge the ungodly, and change the-sun, and the moon, and the stars, then shall He truly rest on the seventh day. Barnabas--named an apostle in Acts 14
Feeding of the 4000
7 loaves times 2 fish = 14
4000 divided by 14 = 285.7143
Blessing left over are multiplied
7 baskets left over times 285.7143 =2000
2000 years
This is the number of years till his return. This time is called--The time of the gentiles, all are gentile christians in this story of the 4000..
I would disagree. The answer to this question, and a number of others, could bring great clarity to the topic.
I realize that you have a great deal of time and effort in forming your position. Much is very insightful. But if you will answer my questions, it will become apparent why the time being spoken of in Daniel deals largely with 1st century Israel. If not, thanks for the discussion.
I realize that you have a great deal of time and effort in forming your position. Much is very insightful. But if you will answer my questions, it will become apparent why the time being spoken of in Daniel deals largely with 1st century Israel. If not, thanks for the discussion.
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