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MrE said:
LOL. That’s hilarious.

So people are supposed to filter through 110 pages of your jibberish and listen to thousands of hours of linked YouTube sensationalist nonsense in order to quote your actual words “in context.”

Ya, I’m going to take a pass.
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So you accuse someone of being dishonest without knowing the facts and think that is funny. I think it is slander.
 
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No one is saying you have to read through 2,000 posts before commenting on this thread, that accusation was an attempt to justify slander. All you need to do is ask a question.

For example, you could ask "where are you getting this number, did you determine this yourself or is it from a source I missed?" Simple, no need to slander others and be one with the accuser of the brethren.
 
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So you accuse someone of being dishonest without knowing the facts and think that is funny. I think it is slander.
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I think it’s funny that you can’t get over yourself. I quoted you and you only. If you were quoting someone else, you should have said so. Go dig up the quote where Elon Musk or the WHO or whatever you imagined, said there are 900 million Chinese people missing.

Was it slander when you said this?


The main reason for posting this again was because MrE was accusing me of saying that there were only 300M in China and I was showing that this was what this channel was saying in their title.
 
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Go ahead— use that quote feature.

Where did I accuse you of saying there were only 300 million people in China?
 
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I think it’s funny that you can’t get over yourself. I quoted you and you only. If you were quoting someone else, you should have said so. Go dig up the quote where Elon Musk or the WHO or whatever you imagined, said there are 900 million Chinese people missing.

Was it slander when you said this?


The main reason for posting this again was because MrE was accusing me of saying that there were only 300M in China and I was showing that this was what this channel was saying in their title.
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You quoted me and me only out of the context of a conversation that had been going on. You could have asked where I got that number from but instead started by making accusations. I told you where I got that number from and I reposted a link that had been posted earlier but you continued to insinuate that I was being "dishonest". You tried to justify your slander by saying you don't have to reread 2,000 posts. What makes that comment so absurd is there is a limit to how long a post can be so it is impossible for us to repost everything every time we post. Instead of slander you could have asked a question. Where is this number coming from? Even when you were shown where it came from you continue to try and slander me as being dishonest and you you try to justify your actions.

You tell me that you are quoting me verbatim, yet you never provide a link so that the lle can be exposed. Post the link, and then everyone can see clearly what was and was not said.

Therefore I appeal to the Lord Jesus Christ, the judge of all.
 
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It is that time again

International buyers throng to Toy Expos to order toys for upcoming Christmas season.

China's International Toy Fair Flop: 300 Exhibitors, Just 3 Orders, and a Hired Foreigner!


Looks like no is buying 30 dolls this year.
 
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The Nightmare Has Just Begun! The CCP’s Worst Fear Emerges

China is a very weird place, two people are shot, one is killed and that is front page news? One of the problems with China is all the censorship so people are left on their own to imagine what did or didn't happen.
 
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The Nightmare Has Just Begun! The CCP’s Worst Fear Emerges

China is a very weird place, two people are shot, one is killed and that is front page news? One of the problems with China is all the censorship so people are left on their own to imagine what did or didn't happen.
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China is like a pressure cooker, they have clamped down so hard on any form of public dissent that instead of allowing people to let off steam the pressure is simply growing and growing. At some point this will explode. The tariffs could easily reduce the CCP's ability to clamp down, and Taiwan has many sleeper cells in China who might be activated due to the threat of war.
 
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Welcome to China


China’s Government Bonds Widely Default, Tens of Thousands Lose Everything, Financial Tsunami Looms


They sell their government bonds to Chinese citizens. Then they simply say they are broke and cannot pay them. This is what happens when your government is a bunch of thieves.
 
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Nobody is Watching This.

There is something known as the wisdom of the crowd indicating the collective wisdom of a group should not be ignored which is why we measure things like consumer sentiment.
 
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Silent Stations, Screaming Crisis! China on the Edge of Collaps!

 
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I can tell you it is not true
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The quote I just gave you, in that title from that link, they say there are 300M in China today. Since there used to be 1.2 billion just a few years ago, that would indicate that 900M are gone.

Do we know that is true? No. Do we know that is not true? No.

I am quoting multiple sources: W.H.O., Elon Musk, and at least three different youtube channels providing anecdotal evidence that something is amiss as well as news reports from multiple agencies that China's response to all this is to go dark, taking many things that they used to be open about off the internet and making it secret.

All of this is evidence that something is truly horrendous in China. None of it can be seen as absolute proof, only a pile of evidence that taken together continues to reduce doubt.

However, I am not in China, I have no independent access to data that could corroborate this. Therefore I have never, not once, given my own independent estimate of how many have died. That is what you accused me of. What I have done is provide many sources, some more reputable than others that are claiming something truly horrendous has happened in China over the last few years, the country with the highest rate of vaccination. They have provided a range of estimates but the least of them would still indicate something ten times worse than the holocaust.
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I can tell you without a doubt it is not true. 1 guy gets shot at a liquor store it's in the news. 10 people sink on a ship off Argentina it's in the news. 900 million people vanish in China not a peep. It is worse than listening to people who think Clinton is a shape shifting lizard from middle earth. It is absurd that in the time of cell phones and starlink satellites a country could completely hide 900 million missing people. COMPLETELY ABSURD.
 
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Jackson129 said:
I can tell you it is not true
I can tell you without a doubt it is not true. 1 guy gets shot at a liquor store it's in the news. 10 people sink on a ship off Argentina it's in the news. 900 million people vanish in China not a peep. It is worse than listening to people who think Clinton is a shape shifting lizard from middle earth. It is absurd that in the time of cell phones and starlink satellites a country could completely hide 900 million missing people. COMPLETELY ABSURD.
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And a lot of us have family and close friends that GO TO CHINA. These videos do not match the stories of people who actually go there.
 
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Here is a comment from this video:


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My wife came back from China a month ago and thinks all these videos about populations disappearing is nonsense. I trust the wife.
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So then let this guy post videos from his wife showing airports filled, train stations filled and shopping malls filled.
 
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Jackson129 said:
I can tell you it is not true
I can tell you without a doubt it is not true. 1 guy gets shot at a liquor store it's in the news. 10 people sink on a ship off Argentina it's in the news. 900 million people vanish in China not a peep. It is worse than listening to people who think Clinton is a shape shifting lizard from middle earth. It is absurd that in the time of cell phones and starlink satellites a country could completely hide 900 million missing people. COMPLETELY ABSURD.
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The source of this story was the W.H.O. If it was a guy whose other story was about Clinton being a lizard then of course, ignore it. BUt Elon Musk put his reputation on the line as well. Instead of debunking the story the CCP pulled all the data off and no longer publishes data that would show how many people live in China.

So far we have 5 different sources, some very reputable, providing eyewitness accounts, Vidoe images, data points, and other evidence. On the other hand we have some random anonymous guy telling us his wife says everything is fine.
 
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China is Broke: China's Tax Crisis is Worse than Pandemic

China's GDP grew by 5.4% and yet tax revenue shrunk by 3.5%?!? When people questioned how this could be the CCP began to hide data.
 
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ZNP said:
The source of this story was the W.H.O. If it was a guy whose other story was about Clinton being a lizard then of course, ignore it. BUt Elon Musk put his reputation on the line as well. Instead of debunking the story the CCP pulled all the data off and no longer publishes data that would show how many people live in China.

So far we have 5 different sources, some very reputable, providing eyewitness accounts, Vidoe images, data points, and other evidence. On the other hand we have some random anonymous guy telling us his wife says everything is fine.
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This is what I mean about listening to you tube stories about flat earth and shape shifting lizzards. I just went strait to the W.H.O. website and there is no statement or story about 13% of the entire world's population disappearing. Not in China not anywhere. The W.H.O never said that never claimed that not once not ever.

Second the you tube video of elon musk saying 800 million Chinese people disappeared is cut and pasted from a video where he was taking about population reduction in the workforce. He said in a hypothetical reduction of 8-9 hundred million people it would take a loss of 40% of a generation over 3 generations. He not once. Not one single time said 800 million people disappeared. Not even once. How many of these cut and pasted 100% fake lying videos are you gonna stand behind.
 
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