The US Joins WW3
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Well, if I was indigenous people living for centuries in a land (Persia) and I see American/British Imperialism destabilize one nation after another to maintain its hegemony, I guess I too would consider finding ways to protect my survival into the next century.
It is called "real politic theory" states are primarily motivated by their own security.
Yes, but this idea that they have been talking about Iran being close to a nuclear bomb for decades without mentioning that during that time Israel has taken steps to prevent them from getting that bomb is disingenuous.
From 2005 to 2010 Israel developed the Stuxnet virus which caused considerable damage to Iran's nuclear program.
You see it is called "real politic theory", Israel is primarily motivated by their own security.
what has Israel done for the last few decades to keep Iran from getting a nuclear weapon
Israel has employed a multi-pronged approach to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, focusing on both overt and covert actions, as well as diplomatic efforts
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1. Covert Operations:
Israel's actions have undoubtedly caused setbacks to Iran's nuclear program, but experts suggest they may not be sufficient to permanently prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon, especially as Iran continues to enrich uranium to near-weapons-grade levels. Some analysts believe that military strikes may actually incentivize Iran to accelerate its nuclear ambitions as a deterrent against future attacks.
Israel has employed a multi-pronged approach to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, focusing on both overt and covert actions, as well as diplomatic efforts
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1. Covert Operations:
- Cyberattacks: Israel is widely believed to have carried out sophisticated cyberattacks against Iran's nuclear program. The most notable example is the Stuxnet worm, first detected in 2010, which reportedly damaged centrifuges at Iran's Natanz facility by causing them to malfunction while providing false data to system monitors. Though the U.S. and Israel have not officially confirmed responsibility, experts believe they collaborated on this operation, which aimed to disrupt Iran's nuclear efforts without requiring a physical attack.
- Assassinations: Several Iranian nuclear scientists have been assassinated over the past decade, and Israel is widely suspected of being behind these killings.
- Sabotage: Explosions and other incidents at Iranian nuclear facilities, such as the July 2020 Natanz explosion, are attributed to sabotage, likely carried out by Israel.
- Targeting Nuclear Facilities: In June 2025, Israel launched air strikes against Iranian nuclear sites, including the Natanz and Isfahan facilities. These strikes aimed to degrade Iran's nuclear capabilities and infrastructure.
- Targeting Military Infrastructure: Israel also targeted Iranian military infrastructure, including missile bases and command centers, as part of the broader effort to dismantle Iran's nuclear program and disrupt its military capabilities.
- Challenges: Some Iranian nuclear sites, such as the Fordow enrichment plant, are heavily fortified and buried deep underground, making them difficult to destroy with conventional weapons. Destroying Fordow would likely require the use of powerful bunker-buster bombs, which only the U.S. possesses.
- Opposition to the JCPOA: Israel strongly opposed the 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), also known as the Iran nuclear deal, believing it did not adequately restrain Iran's nuclear ambitions.
- Lobbying the U.S. and International Community: Israel has worked to persuade the international community, particularly the United States, to apply diplomatic pressure and sanctions on Iran to prevent it from acquiring nuclear weapons. Israel also sought to influence negotiations, including the recent attempts to revive the JCPOA.
- Regime Change: While not formally stated, some analysts suggest that a thinly veiled goal of Israel's strategy may be to foster regime change in Iran.
- Credible Military Option: Israel has made it clear that it reserves the right to use military force if necessary to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons. The threat of a military strike serves as a deterrent.
Israel's actions have undoubtedly caused setbacks to Iran's nuclear program, but experts suggest they may not be sufficient to permanently prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon, especially as Iran continues to enrich uranium to near-weapons-grade levels. Some analysts believe that military strikes may actually incentivize Iran to accelerate its nuclear ambitions as a deterrent against future attacks.
Adrenochrome more than likely. Creepy people in DC. No good guys really, but folks are gonna believe what they want to believe.
I did not know Adrenochrome had this effect, still looks like filler to me, but who knows, agree is it called "the swamp" for a reason and the includes both sides of the aisle.
And every so called "christian" who supports this endless bloodshed should be required to do the same. If Israel is truly fighting a holy war, they should gear up and go get in the fight. If God is so approving of these conflicts, then to join in the battle is the only proper thing to do.
Absolutely agree.
This is a very dark time for some of Christianity... allowing themselves to be victims to gaslighting on a massive scale.
I saw this yesterday, it was so over the top ridiculous, I thought it might be AI.
This is a very ugly accusation, so provide the evidence you have for this nasty accusation otherwise this is simply slander.
I no longer call myself a "christian".
its just another word at this point, with very little positive meaning attached. I prefer follower of Christ, or disciple of Christ, or even believer.
I can't recall who said this.
"Christianity has the distinction of being the only religion that begins by discarding the creed of its founder."
Do you have any proof for your accusation? Or is this simply unsubstantiated slander?
I would not use the word awesome, I would say completely despicable on Cruz's part to be demanding war while knowing next to nothing about the country. Makes him look like a puppet of the military industrial complex.