Prophecy & End Time Perspectives:

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

The Kingdom of God is not within us. Jesus said that the kingdom of God is in our midst. (Luke 17:21). It is the place where God's will is done and the power and authority of Christ is exercised over Satan and his evil host.

The word in that verse actually means inside

G1787 ἐντός entos (en-tos') adv.
inside (adverb or noun).

 

[homwardbound]

Come on, His opinion is still to be heard

thank you, I hear everyones opinions and take it all to Daddy, PaPa Father, to hear what to say or not say, do or not do. Oh And I am not perfect at that, so I hear all, and do not dismantle anyone's opinion. I trust God to teach each of us personally and for me I know this, if it is not love and mercy given me, then it might not be God doing it, you think? I think

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

It's not realistic to think that Ezekiel 38/39 pertains to this time because there is really no way Israel could be invaded by massive armies. Israel would simply nuke them if they got close enough to threaten them.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Scoffield developed the idea of a pre-millennial fulfillment of Ezekiel 38/39 in the late 18th to early 19th century when warfare was completely different. Now wars are fought with planes, missiles and drones. And none of the invading countries listed in those chapters really has the capacity to muster a large standing army. Heck Russia hasn't even conquered next-door Donbas after 3 years, so there's no way it could mobilize a large army to invade a country as far away as Israel. Plus Russia's not going to do that because 15% of Israel's population speaks Russian, and Russia is very protective of their people no matter where they are in the world

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

I haven't seen the videos but I am sure they are horrendous to see, If worst comes to worst it could come to nucluer war and something tells me that iran is nowhere near done yet

@Blain I ran across this video of a missile attack in Oct last year. This was filmed in Lebanon, which I've never seen before. All of the ones I've seen have been from inside Israel. The attacks this year were like this, but worse I think in the beginning.

https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1841589587522576467

Found video here:

https://www.armscontrolwonk.com/arc...tor-expenditures-in-the-israel-iran-conflict/

 

[Blain]

It's not realistic to think that Ezekiel 38/39 pertains to this time because there is really no way Israel could be invaded by massive armies. Israel would simply nuke them if they got close enough to threaten them.

Yes but at the same time it has happened before like the six day war that happened. then again maybe that was the ezekiel war

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Yes but at the same time it has happened before like the six day war that happened. then again maybe that was the ezekiel war

The world has completely changed. Armored vehicles and infantry don't stand a chance against drones. Ukraine war has proven that

 

[Blain]

The world has completely changed. Armored vehicles and infantry don't stand a chance against drones. Ukraine war has proven that

True but I am wondering if Israel can handle it if say china comes at them with russia and iran as well.

I know that God will never allow Israel to fall but if this isn't the ezekial war then what is it in the prophetic timeline?

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

True but I am wondering if Israel can handle it if say china comes at them with russia and iran as well.

I know that God will never allow Israel to fall but if this isn't the ezekial war then what is it in the prophetic timeline?

Neither Russia or Iran has the army to invade. China will eventually invade, but they are not Gog/Magog.

And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. Revelation 16:12​

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All kingdoms of the world, including Israel, will be destroyed at the lord's coming.

 

[Blain]

Neither Russia or Iran has the army to invade. China will eventually invade, but they are not Gog/Magog.

And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. Revelation 16:12​

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All kingdoms of the world, including Israel, will be destroyed at the lord's coming.

Are you aware that that river spoken of has actually dried up?

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Are you aware that that river spoken of has actually dried up?

I knew Turkey has the ability to dry it up, but am not aware that it is dry now

 

[lrs68]

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I figured it couldn't be really over without fulfilling some type of prophecy.

 

[Blain]

I knew Turkey has the ability to dry it up, but am not aware that it is dry now

Yeah it naturally just dried up they even found hidden caverns in the river

 

[Blain]

I knew Turkey has the ability to dry it up, but am not aware that it is dry now

Sorry I should have said it is drying up it is not completely dried up yet

 

[Komentaja]

I heard somewhere that the tribulation will have three and a half years of peace and then three and a half years of wrath I wonder if this holds wieght

Relative peace, but if you read the book of Revelation it doesn't paint a pretty picture for either half.

Read Revelation 11 and 13 and tell me your opinion. The two witnesses sending plagues doesn't sound very peaceful, them being killed doesn't sound peaceful and then the beast reigning and killing them doesn't sound peaceful either.

So I think what people mean by it is that it will be relatively peaceful, COMPARED to the second half.

 

[Komentaja]

Yes, but the act of crucifying the messiah was an abomination.

It was destroyed because it was insignificant/obsolete and no longer served God's purposes

But the abomination of desolation stops the animal sacrifices, and Jesus' death did not do that. They continued on after His death for like 40 years? What about that? And if the abomination of desolation is already past, why hasnt Jesus returned yet? The AoD is tied to the final generation of this earth, in Matthew 24.

Also why would Jesus say when you see the abomination of desolation, FLEE? Why should they flee after the crucifixion? Why didn't they? Why nothing happened to them even though they didnt'? You are just so wrong on this

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

But the abomination of desolation stops the animal sacrifices, and Jesus' death did not do that. They continued on after His death for like 40 years? What about that? And if the abomination of desolation is already past, why hasnt Jesus returned yet? The AoD is tied to the final generation of this earth, in Matthew 24.

Also why would Jesus say when you see the abomination of desolation, FLEE? Why should they flee after the crucifixion? Why didn't they? Why nothing happened to them even though they didnt'? You are just so wrong on this

Animal sacrifices stopped having any meaning to God after the cross. They are a work of unbelief. Men have done and do lots of worthless things, and animal sacrifice is one of them.

I don't necessarily believe that the abomination that makes desolate is one thing. The one in the LXX version of Daniel 9:27 is obviously about Christ and what could be more abominable than the murder of the son of God? It's possibly like the day of the lord in prophecy in which there have been more than one.

And one week [he] shall establish the covenant with many: and in the midst of the week my sacrifice and drink-offering shall be taken away: and on the temple [shall be] the abomination of desolations; and at the end of time an end shall be put to the desolation. Daniel 9:27​

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Paraphrased. There's nothing unfactual about this. To try to force this into the future is really unbelief.

And for 7 years Christ will establish the new covenant with many in Israel: and when his 3 and a half year ministry is complete temple sacrifices and drink-offerings will cease being accepted by God because the final and eternal sacrifice of the lamb of God will make them obsolete: and the abominable murder of the true temple of God will be the abomination that causes the utter desolation of Jerusalem. Daniel 9:27​

 

[Komentaja]

Animal sacrifices stopped having any meaning to God after the cross. They are a work of unbelief. Men have done and do lots of worthless things, and animal sacrifice is one of them.

I don't necessarily believe that the abomination that makes desolate is one thing. The one in the LXX version of Daniel 9:27 is obviously about Christ and what could be more abominable than the murder of the son of God? It's possibly like the day of the lord in prophecy in which there have been more than one.

And one week [he] shall establish the covenant with many: and in the midst of the week my sacrifice and drink-offering shall be taken away: and on the temple [shall be] the abomination of desolations; and at the end of time an end shall be put to the desolation. Daniel 9:27​

Okay. Thank you for sharing. Could you explain further what you believe Matthew 24:15 is about ?

How about eschatology in general? Are you premillennial, futurist, amillennial, preterist, historicist?

I have never heard of this belief in the past so please talk to me. I am very intriqued

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Okay. Thank you for sharing. Could you explain further what you believe Matthew 24:15 is about ?

How about eschatology in general? Are you premillennial, futurist, amillennial, preterist, historicist?

I have never heard of this belief in the past so please talk to me. I am very intriqued

I really don't have any sure idea what Mat 24:15 is about. I can only guess

I believe the lord will return after the trib, but before the wrath, and rule on earth forever and that virtually all, if not all, OT prophecy pertaining to natural Israel has been fulfilled.