The "Exterminate Israel & its Jews" movement...

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PennEd

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...is of the world and isn't new. Satan has been using Godless people to persecute Jewish people
As you can see even in this thread, it isn't just "godless people", but "Christian" Goats as well.
 

Kroogz

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God made a unconditional, everlasting promise of land to Abe. He drew out the borders. He continued to rely that promise to each generation. Nothing has been replaced. It has not yet been fulfilled. It doesn't matter if they were countries or not, God promised that specific land. Either He will keep His promises, or He won't.


This is what the Lord says,

he who appoints the sun
to shine by day,
who decrees the moon and stars
to shine by night,
who stirs up the sea
so that its waves roar—
the Lord Almighty is his name:



“Only if these decrees vanish from my sight,”
declares the Lord,
“will Israel ever cease
being a nation before me.”


“Only if the heavens above can be measured
and the foundations of the earth below be searched out
will I reject all the descendants of Israel
because of all they have done,”
declares the Lord.
As you have mentioned, we have no eternal security in Christ if God abandoned the Jews/Israel.

The folks who have abandoned Israel, do not truly understand eternal security and the harsh discipline of the Lord.
 

HeIsHere

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As you have mentioned, we have no eternal security in Christ if God abandoned the Jews/Israel.

The folks who have abandoned Israel, do not truly understand eternal security and the harsh discipline of the Lord.
God did not abandon anyone who was a "believer" not all Jews were believers.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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God did not abandon anyone who was a "believer" not all Jews were believers.

Romans obliterates any further argument. God is able to graft the unbelieving Jews back into their own tree. And He will when their eyes are opened. They will mourn the one they have pierced. It's so simple.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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And Americans ... who have they been taught to hate?
No one. Racism is sin and people all over the world have/do/and will suffer because of it till Christ returns. News from missionaries is that many Muslims are having dreams about Jesus and are coming to the Lord and being baptized. The time of the Gentiles is winding down. We must reach anyone and everyone with the Gospel.
 

Eli1

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And Americans ... who have they been taught to hate?
And you who hate Americans and Donald Trump.
Americans are very generous with money as they spread it around the world.
What do you spread around the world besides TDS?
 

Kroogz

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God did not abandon anyone who was a "believer" not all Jews were believers.
It's mystery doctrine.

Israel has its specific promises.

The Church has its specific promises.

He does Not abandon Israel.

He does not abandon the Church.
 

HeIsHere

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It's mystery doctrine.

Israel has its specific promises.

The Church has its specific promises.

He does Not abandon Israel.

He does not abandon the Church.
True Israel is the Church. :)
No one is abandoned.

If there are two separate peoples of God what did that mean for the early Jewish converts?
Abraham saved by the same faith that saves us today.

A true Jew defined, there is no way around this statement

No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person's praise is not from other people, but from God.
Romans 2:29

There is only one tree of faith, not two.

The Church is the continuation of the true spiritual Israel which has always been the individual people saved by faith.

The true Israel is and always has been spiritual that is what the New testament makes abundantly clear.
 

HeIsHere

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No one. Racism is sin and people all over the world have/do/and will suffer because of it till Christ returns. News from missionaries is that many Muslims are having dreams about Jesus and are coming to the Lord and being baptized. The time of the Gentiles is winding down. We must reach anyone and everyone with the Gospel.
More like being forced to wind down with false signs.
 

Kroogz

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True Israel is the Church. :)
No one is abandoned.

If there are two separate peoples of God what did that mean for the early Jewish converts?
Abraham saved by the same faith that saves us today.

A true Jew defined, there is no way around this statement

No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person's praise is not from other people, but from God.
Romans 2:29

There is only one tree of faith, not two.

The Church is the continuation of the true spiritual Israel which has always been the individual people saved by faith.

The true Israel is and always has been spiritual that is what the New testament makes abundantly clear.
So what is the mystery? Or mystery doctrine?

If it is all just a continuation of the same ole, same ole......what was the mystery?
 

Kroogz

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The Bible says the time of the Gentiles will end. I didn't make it up, I didn't write it. If you don't believe what it says, you're talking to the wrong one.
@cv5 said something very interesting the other day. Something that I have never considered.

The times of the gentiles ended when the Nation of Israel was re-established.......Makes sense to me at this time.

What do you think?
 

JohnDB

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Look,
Jesus declared that Israel would not pass away before his "Return" (on the White horse)

ANYONE who fights Israel is going to lose spectacularly because they are fighting God....which has NEVER worked out well for anyone before.
 
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Stating plain and verifiable truths is not racism or hatred.

It has been well documented by secular as well as Jewish sources, that 90% or more of the inhabitants of the modern State of Israel, are in fact, of European descent. The have no genetic connection to ancient Israel. None. Period.

Additionally. other genetic studies have clearly proven, that it is the people of Gaza who are more directly related to the ancient Israelites than their Jewish neighbors.

The sad fact is, that once something has become a part of a persons belief system, all evidence contrary to that belief system is disregarded, mocked and ridiculed.

Before I am falsely accused of being a Jew hating apostate, may I ask you one simple question. Why won't you just go and check these sources for yourself?

They aren't the true descendants of Israel. The bible is not their holy book, they follow the Talmud. They hate you, and want you dead.

Go read the Talmud for yourself. You'll be disgusted. But you will also be enlightened. If of course, you are not so completely deceived that seeing the truth is impossible for you.
 

Kroogz

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Romans obliterates any further argument. God is able to graft the unbelieving Jews back into their own tree. And He will when their eyes are opened. They will mourn the one they have pierced. It's so simple.
Right on. They will mourn as if losing one of their first born.......It will be a glorious day when Israel bends the knee to the Lord Jesus Christ. And They WILL. He tells us they will.
 
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Is God not allowed His vengeance for rejecting His Son?
Btw way the city was no longer holy, the temple curtain was torn.
It is one thing to be held to account for rejecting The Son on Judgement Day (John 3:18), it is another to subject a people to genocide…
We are suppose to make disciples (Matthew 28:19) not justify people being mistreated or harmed.

Take heed.. Antisemitism is a ugly monster. As it hating any people. For The Man who wrote two thirds of New Testament was a Jew who had persecuted The Church named Saul who became Paul. He made some of greatest defenses of the gospel once He believed and his revelations are so divinely inspired. We should be praying for The Root (The Jews), that more Sauls become Pauls.
 

HeIsHere

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It is one thing to be held to account for rejecting The Son on Judgement Day (John 3:18), it is another to subject a people to genocide…
We are suppose to make disciples (Matthew 28:19) not justify people being mistreated or harmed.

Take heed.. Antisemitism is a ugly monster. As it hating any people. For The Man who wrote two thirds of New Testament was a Jew who had persecuted The Church named Saul who became Paul. He made some of greatest defenses of the gospel once He believed and his revelations are so divinely inspired. We should be praying for The Root (The Jews), that more Sauls become Pauls.
Christ Jesus is the Root.
There is one tree, not two.