Many Christians are like walking graves.

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Ramon

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Many Christians are like walking graves. They have no passion in them, and Jesus seems far away from them, and maybe he is.

Many churches are graveyards also. They go to church on Sunday's and on Wednesdays, and they get excited about some message, and then on Monday's and on Thursdays they are dead again. They don't have Jesus in them, and they are dying in their sin. They are idle, and wanting. They are not zealous, and lack passion. Why?

They have forsaken the gospel of Jesus Christ, because they became fearful. When Jesus called them, they were too afraid to go on in him. They were too afraid of what people might say, or what others may think. They don't care that people are going to hell, they just care about their bank accounts and their houses and their cars, and their money.

They don't realize people are going to hell because of this very laziness. They are like salt that has lost their savor, or like lamps that run weak from the lack of oil. Walking tombstones, because they have rejected the communion of the Lord. They deny his body and his blood.

So, they don't have his life in them.

Get away from these dead Christians, they will just bore you to death. Jesus Christ is FULL of life!! He is FULL OF JOY!! he is FULL OF HOPE!! He is FULL OF FAITH! He is FULL OF LOVE!!

AND HE CAME TO SEEK AND SAVE THAT WHICH IS LOST!! AND HE SAID, GO OUT INTO THE WORLD PREACHING THE GOSPEL!!

Many people are going to hell, including idle Christians, what have you done for Jesus since you first believed?
 
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I'm new here but all your posts seem to be pretty much the same. Few are really true Christians, few actually know Christ.....rarely any actual scriptures, no real teaching but more like complaining. Sounds like its a you against them scenario every time you post.

What I'd like to see is a real post where you teach from the bible on some subject. Good documentation, good reasoning, good proof...etc etc.




Ramon said:
Many Christians are like walking graves. They have no passion in them, and Jesus seems far away from them, and maybe he is.

Many churches are graveyards also. They go to church on Sunday's and on Wednesdays, and they get excited about some message, and then on Monday's and on Thursdays they are dead again. They don't have Jesus in them, and they are dying in their sin. They are idle, and wanting. They are not zealous, and lack passion. Why?

They have forsaken the gospel of Jesus Christ, because they became fearful. When Jesus called them, they were too afraid to go on in him. They were too afraid of what people might say, or what others may think. They don't care that people are going to hell, they just care about their bank accounts and their houses and their cars, and their money.

They don't realize people are going to hell because of this very laziness. They are like salt that has lost their savor, or like lamps that run weak from the lack of oil. Walking tombstones, because they have rejected the communion of the Lord. They deny his body and his blood.

So, they don't have his life in them.

Get away from these dead Christians, they will just bore you to death. Jesus Christ is FULL of life!! He is FULL OF JOY!! he is FULL OF HOPE!! He is FULL OF FAITH! He is FULL OF LOVE!!

AND HE CAME TO SEEK AND SAVE THAT WHICH IS LOST!! AND HE SAID, GO OUT INTO THE WORLD PREACHING THE GOSPEL!!

Many people are going to hell, including idle Christians, what have you done for Jesus since you first believed?
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Rosewater

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Was going to say something similar, your posts remind me of the book of Psalms, one long lamentation. May the Lord forgive us our judgments.
 
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Subtronik

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How about we start with the basics, like avoiding sin as much as possible.

A good place to start is to never tell a lie, little white lie, or exaggerate, that way you don't dig pitfall holes.

I know since I took a vow to never lie or exaggerate again last year God has blessed me and my family unit daily.

John 8:44

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

We see here that Satan is the father of lies, and there is no truth in him.

Now for the polar opposite:

1 Peter 2:21-22

For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:


Jesus never spoke a lie his entire life. If he did that would make Him imperfect, and only a perfect human could be the blood sacrifice we call our Lord, Savior, and Messiah.


So, after realizing the toxic nature of lies, I took a vow to never lie, white lie, or exaggerate ever again.

Hopefully all Christians can see the possibility of being 100% honest 100% of the time.
 
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Ramon

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Naphal said:
I'm new here but all your posts seem to be pretty much the same. Few are really true Christians, few actually know Christ.....rarely any actual scriptures, no real teaching but more like complaining. Sounds like its a you against them scenario every time you post.

What I'd like to see is a real post where you teach from the bible on some subject. Good documentation, good reasoning, good proof...etc etc.
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I am not here to teach. If Jesus sent me to teach he would have told me to.

I am hear to tell people to repent, and go to Jesus, and HE will teach them what they need to know. Jesus teaches all one needs to know, and it is He who should be the teacher, by his Holy Spirit. My good proof is in Jesus Christ.

Many Christians are against Jesus Christ. And many do not know the scriptures.

And because few do know Christ, MANY will say, ''LORD!!!, LORD!!!..'' But he will not know them.

If you want to be taught, ask Jesus to teach you.

May Jesus bless you.
 
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Ramon

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Rosewater said:
Was going to say something similar, your posts remind me of the book of Psalms, one long lamentation. May the Lord forgive us our judgments.
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It is very much a time for lamentation. If only you knew.

May Jesus bless you.
 
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I am not here to teach.
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Ok, well you certainly aren't teaching. Means...no one is learning anything from you.

Many Christians are against Jesus Christ.
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No, not many...maybe a few who are fake.

I am hear to tell people to repent, and go to Jesus, and HE will teach them what they need to know.
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We don't need to hear that from you. Take that to non-Christian forums. You are offending us with your milky, self righteous message
 
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AnandaHya

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why do people like to preach repentance and law to the saved and forgiveness and grace to the damned?

seems kind of backwards to me...

Many people are being used by the darkness to tear down others faith and their blessed assurance and do not even have the discernment to realize the stumbling blocks they place in front of their brethren.

Many would like to build upon others foundation and do not seek the unsaved to speak the Gospel message to but would rather condemn those within the church instead of pray to God for them and entrust His love and mercy to cover and draw them to Him.

they would like to make salvation a thing men do and not a gift from God and His will and HIS power that draws people from their sin into His righteousness. mmm

i think I'll just go off and pray now and read my Bible...
 
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AnandaHya

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this is a nice verse...


Romans 15:20
And so I have made it my aim to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build on another man’s foundation,
 
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Naphal

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AnandaHya said:
this is a nice verse...


Romans 15:20
And so I have made it my aim to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build on another man’s foundation,
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Not bad at all.
 
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Luke CH 2 Verse 49/50: And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that i must be about my Father's business?

And they understood NOT the saying which he spake unto them.

Your children are NOT yours, omly temporarly entrusted to your care.

Thats why the divorce rate is so high, there is a bit of a harsh reality to this.

Forever in Christ :)
 
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Ramon

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Naphal said:
Ok, well you certainly aren't teaching. Means...no one is learning anything from you.



No, not many...maybe a few who are fake.



We don't need to hear that from you. Take that to non-Christian forums. You are offending us with your milky, self righteous message
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Neither do I want to teach you, as everyone who want to know the truth should learn from Jesus Christ. If you are offended it is not because of me.

May Jesus bless you.
 
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Ramon said:
Many Christians are like walking graves. They have no passion in them, and Jesus seems far away from them, and maybe he is.

Many churches are graveyards also. They go to church on Sunday's and on Wednesdays, and they get excited about some message, and then on Monday's and on Thursdays they are dead again. They don't have Jesus in them, and they are dying in their sin. They are idle, and wanting. They are not zealous, and lack passion. Why?

They have forsaken the gospel of Jesus Christ, because they became fearful. When Jesus called them, they were too afraid to go on in him. They were too afraid of what people might say, or what others may think. They don't care that people are going to hell, they just care about their bank accounts and their houses and their cars, and their money.

They don't realize people are going to hell because of this very laziness. They are like salt that has lost their savor, or like lamps that run weak from the lack of oil. Walking tombstones, because they have rejected the communion of the Lord. They deny his body and his blood.

So, they don't have his life in them.

Get away from these dead Christians, they will just bore you to death. Jesus Christ is FULL of life!! He is FULL OF JOY!! he is FULL OF HOPE!! He is FULL OF FAITH! He is FULL OF LOVE!!

AND HE CAME TO SEEK AND SAVE THAT WHICH IS LOST!! AND HE SAID, GO OUT INTO THE WORLD PREACHING THE GOSPEL!!

Many people are going to hell, including idle Christians, what have you done for Jesus since you first believed?
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I once believe like you did (90% truth message with the exception of GRACE) because i was reading spiritlessons.com (read the whole thing 2009 [false testimonies from the devil]) having itchy ears and not the Bible, i repented and turned back to the Word of God.

Titus 3:5
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewal of the Holy Spirit.

Don't think you are warning Christians to repent it ain't your job, a Christian is only a Christian because he believes and has received the gift of the Holy Spirit.

1 John 2:27
As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit--just as it has taught you, remain in him.
 
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Ramon said:
Neither do I want to teach you, as everyone who want to know the truth should learn from Jesus Christ. If you are offended it is not because of me.

May Jesus bless you.
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yes, it is.
 
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Ramon

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cronjecj said:
I once believe like you did (90% truth message with the exception of GRACE) because i was reading spiritlessons.com (read the whole thing 2009 [false testimonies from the devil]) having itchy ears and not the Bible, i repented and turned back to the Word of God.

Titus 3:5
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewal of the Holy Spirit.

Don't think you are warning Christians to repent it ain't your job, a Christian is only a Christian because he believes and has received the gift of the Holy Spirit.

1 John 2:27
As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit--just as it has taught you, remain in him.
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Amen! Yes Amen!! Nevertheless, I warn.

It is given to me to warn. I don't read other doctrines. I have received the revelation of the Word of God, and that is Jesus Christ, even the manifestation of the word of God.

Indeed, it is time for people to turn back to the Word of God, who have turned away. And it is true what you say.

Many hold the title of a Christian, but not the character of Christ. Anyone who read this knows who it was to.

May Jesus bless you.
 
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So far Ramon, your post have been against reading the Bible, going to church, and this one is against God's people. Who is idle? Who is a walking grave? None of God's people are walking graves and if they want to not be idle they should read the Bible and go to church, two things you are against. You really seem to have a prideful spirit. You sound like the man who tells God how great he is instead of the man who wouldn't even look up and told God he was a sinner. What do you have to offer for people who believe you? They can't meet with other Christians and they can't read the Bible. How can we serve Jesus without the Bible? You said we should serve Jesus without the Bible. Jesus is the Logos, the Word. How can we be with Jesus if we do not meet together. You said we should not go to church. Jesus said where two or three are gathered together in my name, there I am in the midst. I really enjoy when you simply quote Scripture but I must admit I cannot stand it when you speak.
 
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Ramon

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Jesus can be served without the bible, but I have not in ANY way said to not read it, even that I read it, as the Lord lead me to read it. Neither would I put a stumblingblock in the way of a new christian, as I am sure that the Holy Spirit leads one to read it.

But many who presume to know Jesus don't. They know scriptures, but not the one who breathed them. Even as the Jews did, but killed Jesus Christ, the very Son of God.

The Holy Spirit is still alive and well, and so is Jesus Christ. Many dead men killed Jesus Christ, because they did not have life, as he also said.

Jesus can be served without the bible, as HE is the one who will live forever. The issue is, many don't have a relationship with him, so he will say to them, ''Go away from me, I never knew you.''

May Jesus bless you.
 
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jonathanbchristian said:
So far Ramon, your post have been against reading the Bible, going to church, and this one is against God's people. Who is idle? Who is a walking grave? None of God's people are walking graves and if they want to not be idle they should read the Bible and go to church, two things you are against. You really seem to have a prideful spirit. You sound like the man who tells God how great he is instead of the man who wouldn't even look up and told God he was a sinner. What do you have to offer for people who believe you? They can't meet with other Christians and they can't read the Bible. How can we serve Jesus without the Bible? You said we should serve Jesus without the Bible. Jesus is the Logos, the Word. How can we be with Jesus if we do not meet together. You said we should not go to church. Jesus said where two or three are gathered together in my name, there I am in the midst. I really enjoy when you simply quote Scripture but I must admit I cannot stand it when you speak.
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Ramon

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Subtronik said:
How about we start with the basics, like avoiding sin as much as possible.

A good place to start is to never tell a lie, little white lie, or exaggerate, that way you don't dig pitfall holes.

I know since I took a vow to never lie or exaggerate again last year God has blessed me and my family unit daily.

John 8:44

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

We see here that Satan is the father of lies, and there is no truth in him.

Now for the polar opposite:

1 Peter 2:21-22

For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:


Jesus never spoke a lie his entire life. If he did that would make Him imperfect, and only a perfect human could be the blood sacrifice we call our Lord, Savior, and Messiah.


So, after realizing the toxic nature of lies, I took a vow to never lie, white lie, or exaggerate ever again.

Hopefully all Christians can see the possibility of being 100% honest 100% of the time.
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My friend. One thing is this, that without faith it is impossible to please God.

It is a good thing in the heart of person to determine to do good, to please God, this is always good. But there is a slight trick Satan plays, and he has tried to pull it on me over and over and over, and yet still.

A man that says he has wrought it by his own hand has been deceived. What I mean is, there is NO possible way to cease from sin by your own will. I have tried, impossible. But I have faith that Jesus Christ will save me from sin by HIS WILL!!! THAT HE WILL LEAD ME AND GUIDE ME INTO ALL TRUTH!!

To make a command like, ''Don't lust,'' is something that can be taken two ways. If one sees that to lust is against God, and he is humble he will say, ''LORD! HELP ME NOT TO LUST! DELIVER ME FROM EVIL AND TEMPTATION JESUS!! I AM WEAK, BUT YOUR ARE STRONG...''

But someone who is not humble might say, ''Didn't David lust?'' thereby trying to justify the sin.

But no sin is justified with God. So when the trials come, it is faith that will please him, even if you fall he is faithful, Not just works. But faith and works work together.

My friend, Satan comes at all angles. But we know how they fell int he beginning. PRIDE AND LUST!!

May Jesus deliver us from evil!!

May Jesus bless you.
 
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Ramon said:
Neither do I want to teach you, as everyone who want to know the truth should learn from Jesus Christ. If you are offended it is not because of me.

May Jesus bless you.
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You are preaching to the choir which means what you have to say is already known and understood by most that you are speaking to, some probably understand what you are saying better than you do. There is a time to speak, and there is a time to be silent and listen.

And, what you are preaching is not only milk, but luke-warm milk at that. The only audience that might benefit from your preachy messages are non-Christians, maybe.
 
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