Revolution in Iran

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I think in the end we will see the Lord put Trump in office just because Trump supports Israel.

The Lord has used secular leaders in the past to come to Israel's aid so this would not be anything new.
 
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Thank you.

My position is very straightforward and simple. I believe that Jesus is Lord, all things are under His control, nothing happens unless He allows it and all things work together for good to those that love God and are called according to purpose. I also understand that His ways are higher than ours, He is wiser than us, and that regardless of what happens He desires all men to be saved. Seeds from a redwood tree will not sprout unless there is a horrific forest fire first. Some people are broken and are crying for mercy, they don't need a world war with nuclear bombs to come to Jesus. Others are arrogant and need to be humbled. For them this could be the very thing they need to realize they need a savior.


From your posts you support the nation of Is**L policies without reservation, but besides that it is this kind of thinking that makes for passivity, compliance, fatalism ....imo .... but no point going any further because the discussion will go nowhere.
 
People are acting like children. America first doesn't mean America only. The US finally came in to "save the day" with the Jews. People don't like war, anyone with common sense doesn't like war but Iran was told not to begin enriching again. I don't know how anyone could see people dancing in the streets because of their new found freedom and hate on that. MTG seemed a little off from the beginning. If your ideas are so strong, run to be president. Everyone that sits on the sidelines criticizes the game, but put you in that place, you may not have the answers you think you do.
What shocked me the most about MTG was how pro-Trump she was in the beginning but now it's like the complete opposite.
 
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From your posts you support the nation of Is**L policies without reservation, but besides that it is this kind of thinking that makes for passivity, compliance, fatalism ....imo .... but no point going any further because the discussion will go nowhere.
From your posts it is clear you misinterpret what others have written, assume your understanding is right and are unable to admit you are wrong.

I have said repeatedly that Trump is the jawbone of the ass, in the hands of the Lord. I have also said that the Lord has put Trump into the presidency because He will have the nations in derision. For the entire church age grace was given, all people had to do was humble themselves to receive it. As the age of grace comes to a close you are left with all those who refused under any circumstance to repent of their sins. Instead they mock and ridicule and hold those who preach the gospel in derision. So then, it is righteous judgment that at this time the Lord holds them in derision.

You subscribe to the doctrine that all of the prophecies concerning the end time were fulfilled, as a result you refuse to believe these prophecies you were told were fulfilled are actually being fulfilled right now. But the world is heading towards a seven year tribulation much sooner than you are prepared for and so you are screaming and crying about Donald Trump as though this was his doing. This has been in the works for 2,000 years, he is simply a pawn being moved by the Lord Jesus to fulfill every jot and tittle of the Bible.
 
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That's not totally possible, their oil industry is too well developped. That's why ZNP surmised on it in the prelude topic of destroying thier oil industry, but i argued then and still would that it's smarter to leave it intact. Iran economy has to be rebuilt. The new Phase structure of the plan reveals this.

Phase 1 killing the cult element is now effectively shut with the literal physical destruction of the building of the Assembly of Experts, they definitively have no way to legitimately elevate new ayatollahs and a Supreme Ayatollah to communicate with Mahdi even in their cult logic.

Phase 2 where we're more concerned is not yet complete but is largely complete, scouing the military and government heads, and destroy their various weapons programs as Hegseth and several general have stated is the central US interest and mission.

Phase 3 is then the return of Pahlavi and the transition, this is the riskiest but highest reward potential too, the potential to seal the revolution. To reinsert Pahlavi, you might want to do study of beekeeping. We are attempting to introduce a new queen bee to the hive, the hive will either accept or reject, this is the greatest moment of danger to the revolution but also the greatest moment of culmination if successful. If Pahlavi and his Cyrus Accords transitional framework is accepted by the populace of Iran, the revolution and operation both would end conclusively and the new transitional and rebuilding phase can take over, the civillian led governments and Iranian people and more diplomatic community can normalize the State.

Praise Jesus oh Jaywalker :)
No....blockade the transfer transport of the oil. Totally possible.
 
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No....blockade the transfer transport of the oil. Totally possible.

Ah I understand. Well that's basically already done now that Iran doesn't have much of a navy and you know America (and soon to be France too for bonus points) are parked all over the place. Praise Jesus
 
That doesn't make sense, if it isn't a coincidence it implies that Israel and the US went to war with Iran, moving all of these ships and planes and material, dropping billions of dollars on this war to do what, change the subject? You would have to be the biggest and most powerful psychopath in the world to do that.

It's for the list of points that I shared with@HeIsHere and more.

I think this is exactly what's going on. It's Just a guess judging from history. Trump is being manipulated by deep state influencers again to get wrapped up in a foreign war for the following:

A. It makes their arms companies extremely profitable.

B. It makes the deep state ever so much more powerful.

C. A war takes the focus off the authoritarian powers that should not be domestically.

D. The communist/socialist criminals will not be defeated on the home turf.

E. The deep state criminals will not be prosecuted because Trump will be occupied with the foreign interest instead of justice here. Once he's out of office through stollen elections, they will regain their ultimate power with no checks or balances once again.
I got flak from speaking truth immediately after 9//, 2001 .
There were layers to the rotten onion of the deep state.
A church full of preachers glorified the war against Iraq as their righteous/holy war.
Standing ovations and shouts went out to every branch of the military machine. Certainly many enlisted with good intentions.
Would they have done so if they knew the facts?
GW was their hero and "we had to get them BEFORE they get us!" was the mantra.

All reason and facts were ignored. As far as I know, many still are in spite of the barges full of evidence sailed off to China.

You and I will not forget 9// and the deep state attempts to start a civil war here too.....just recently.

Peace

 
It's for the list of points that I shared with@HeIsHere and more.


I got flak from speaking truth immediately after 9//, 2001 .
There were layers to the rotten onion of the deep state.
A church full of preachers glorified the war against Iraq as their righteous/holy war.
Standing ovations and shouts went out to every branch of the military machine. Certainly many enlisted with good intentions.
Would they have done so if they knew the facts?
GW was their hero and "we had to get them BEFORE they get us!" was the mantra.

All reason and facts were ignored. As far as I know, many still are in spite of the barges full of evidence sailed off to China.

You and I will not forget 9// and the deep state attempts to start a civil war here too.....just recently.

Peace

The year before 911 we had a rally in front of the UN when they opened up in September concering what was happening Sudan and said if we don't stand against in in Sudan it will come to the US. The next year we were going to have our second rally on September 13th, but they shut down the city after 911.

I questioned the whole narrative about Saddam Hussein supporting Al Qaeda saying he had a secular government, didn't sound like something he would do. I was attacked like I was a terrorist. Common sense and critical thinking were gone.

BTW I met one of the 911 terrorists and told my boss he was a terrorist and would have gotten fired had 911 not happened and proved I was right.
 
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Even if you're not the biggest fan of Israel gotta give them credit, for their first real joint operation ever with USA they've been pretty open actually. Despite the almost superstitious level of their detractors actually Israel has not only been effective in the technical sense of eliminating cult heads, but also been pretty transparent and organized in presenting its information taken. Though the total elimination of the IRGC is not yet done, as you can see now in one quick handy graphic, it's pretty largely completed even already. God bless USA, God protect Israel, and God frees Iran, praise Jesus

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Funny, the Vatican used the same ploy for the 'holy wars'. So the Jesuits sanctioned this whole thing. I SEE. OK!
Well that's where knowing your Bible would help. Jesus is not coming one second sooner than was planned before time began. There is no rushing His coming. Nothing or no one will change it.
 
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Even if you're not the biggest fan of Israel gotta give them credit, for their first real joint operation ever with USA they've been pretty open actually. Despite the almost superstitious level of their detractors actually Israel has not only been effective in the technical sense of eliminating cult heads, but also been pretty transparent and organized in presenting its information taken. Though the total elimination of the IRGC is not yet done, as you can see now in one quick handy graphic, it's pretty largely completed even already. God bless USA, God protect Israel, and God frees Iran, praise Jesus

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Unfortunately, the only way to eliminate the IRGC hardliner doctrine is to eliminate the hardliners themselves.
 
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The year before 911 we had a rally in front of the UN when they opened up in September concering what was happening Sudan and said if we don't stand against in in Sudan it will come to the US. The next year we were going to have our second rally on September 13th, but they shut down the city after 911.

I questioned the whole narrative about Saddam Hussein supporting Al Qaeda saying he had a secular government, didn't sound like something he would do. I was attacked like I was a terrorist. Common sense and critical thinking were gone.

BTW I met one of the 911 terrorists and told my boss he was a terrorist and would have gotten fired had 911 not happened and proved I was right.
People forget that. Democrats AND republicans all talked about how we MUST Invade.
 
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Even if you're not the biggest fan of Israel gotta give them credit, for their first real joint operation ever with USA they've been pretty open actually. Despite the almost superstitious level of their detractors actually Israel has not only been effective in the technical sense of eliminating cult heads, but also been pretty transparent and organized in presenting its information taken. Though the total elimination of the IRGC is not yet done, as you can see now in one quick handy graphic, it's pretty largely completed even already. God bless USA, God protect Israel, and God frees Iran, praise Jesus

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Jeremiah 49:36 And upon Elam will I bring the four winds from the four quarters of heaven, and will scatter them toward all those winds; and there shall be no nation whither the outcasts of Elam shall not come. 37 For I will cause Elam to be dismayed before their enemies, and before them that seek their life: and I will bring evil upon them, even my fierce anger, saith the Lord; and I will send the sword after them, till I have consumed them:
 
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