Are You Rapture Ready?

[Lovette]

Matthew 24:40
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left..../KJV

If all of the evil people are dead at this time, when does this happen, two in the field, one taken one left...? Left behind where? All alone since everyone else is dead? Taken? Taken where? When?

And will he respond this time or not? I'm guessing no beyond a change of subject and rabbit trails designed to confuse and distract from the truth.

Where and when? Taken to Mount Olivet, post trib. In this very context which you disregard.

“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. (Matt. 24:29-30)

As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. (Matt. 24:37)

 

[Lovette]

What is this? Are you a tag team with 2nd times is the charm?

This is Rev. 14:1-4.

 

[Lovette]

Rapture is Pre-Trib ----according to scripture if you read and understand it RIGHT -----as the Saints come with Jesus when He comes the 2nd time to fight Satan and his tribe --the Saint witness Jesus defeat Satan ----

So the Rapture cannot be Post -Trib ----that makes no sense ----Jesus is coming to defeat Satan and He sets up His New Earth immediately after he separated the saved people from the tribulation from the unsaved ----the unsaved he sends away ---and the saved He keeps here with the other Saints and sets up the New Earth ------

Rapture is POST-TRIB because resurrection is post trib, 1 Thess. 4:16, Rev. 20:5. Unless you can prove that there's a secret "zeroth" mass resurrection before the FIRST resurrection in Rev. 20:5, pre-trib rapture is false.

 

[Lovette]

SMH
Amazing your lack of knowledge.

1 cor 15
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.


You need to learn.
Do a study on firstfruits and get back to me.

Psssst...the 144,000 are firstfruit Jews.
...a totally different study that must also be new to you.

Also research what denial is.
Denying your misinformation is a no brainer.
Your study being so lacking.
You don't even know what firstfruits is.

You do realize all these is about resurrection, right? Christ is the sheaf of firstfruits that fulfills the Feast of First Fruits, the 144,000 are the first fruits that fulfill the Feast of Weeks.

Speak to the children of Israel, and say to them: ‘When you come into the land which I give to you, and reap its harvest, then you shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest to the priest. (Lev. 23:9)

"Count fifty days to the day after the seventh Sabbath; then you shall offer a new grain offering to the Lord. You shall bring from your dwellings two wave loaves of two-tenths of an ephah. They shall be of fine flour; they shall be baked with leaven. They are the firstfruits to the Lord. " (Lev. 23:17)

Also, the 144,000 are from all twelve tribes, Jews only consists of the tribe of Judah and Benjamin. It this you who lacks understanding and needs a humble pie.

 

[Lovette]

Lol
Who is in denial?
Rev 14:14 is toxic to your deal.
That is why you ran from it.

That fact alone, a gathering prior to your displacement blows your entire deal away.

It is comical that your teachers are so inept.

They have you believing the dead in Christ rise after the gathering mid trib By JESUS SITTING ON A CLOUD.

Study before you take a position.
When you get your info from teachers, sooner or later they will make a fool out of you.
Rev 14:14.....you run from it huh?
Actually I don't blame you.
I would be embarrassed also.

Boasts you who don't even know anything about the feast of first fruits, the feast of weeks and the biblical definition of Jews.

 

[Lovette]

We all know they are part of the 1st resurrection.
we all know that.

No you don't. 1st resurrection is 1st resurrection, there's no "part" of it.

 

[Lovette]

Amen.
The gathering of the last day is the general resurrection way way way after the trib.
1000 years later.

Yep a post trib gathering.
Super postrib.

But you run from the rapture verses.

Rapture IS gather. Secret teleportation at the random moment is your fabricated fiction.

 

[Lovette]

You post tribbers have never heard of Unification? WHy is it you post tribbers feel like it's ok to hijack a thread wherein the very first post said, this is not a debate thread about pre trib/post trib but speaking to fellow pre tribbers about being rapture ready. You freaking hijacked my thread and totally refuse to even respond to scripture....and only want to preach your post trib view and call people names.

That's very low brow.

What you asked is a loaded question. "Rapture ready" is built on a false narrative. "Rapture" is not a mass teleportation into high heaven, it's not secret, and it's not pre-trib.

 

[Luke1813]

Jesus was not incorrect.
But you are.

Interesting. I agree that Jesus is always correct, and never made any claims to the contrary I made no doctrinal statements either. I did however, ask two serious questions, which have yet to be answered.

At what point does a pretribber throw in the towel? And will their faith endure the disappointment.

 

[Edward429451]

Apparently it's related to your lacking eyes which can see?

Or there's no "secret rapture" after all?

Oh I see what happened. My post there is not complete. A typo of sorts, soory to mislead you but there should be "Not" between can and see. Make it can not see. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Edward429451]

Where and when? Taken to Mount Olivet, post trib. In this very context which you disregard.

“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. (Matt. 24:29-30)

As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. (Matt. 24:37)

So we...go up and meet Jesus in the air and then come right back down with Him to Mt of Olives? wadr, that's goofy.

 

[Edward429451]

What you asked is a loaded question. "Rapture ready" is built on a false narrative. "Rapture" is not a mass teleportation into high heaven, it's not secret, and it's not pre-trib.

WHy do want to hijack my thread and disrupt the flow of conversation with calling names and disparaging people? Do you get some sort of thrill from it?

Why come here and tempt me to believe your nonsense? I reject it.

 

[Edward429451]

What you asked is a loaded question. "Rapture ready" is built on a false narrative. "Rapture" is not a mass teleportation into high heaven, it's not secret, and it's not pre-trib.

It's not teleportation, I'll tell you that. It's called Translation and anyone who reads scripture knows this.

 

[Lovette]

So we...go up and meet Jesus in the air and then come right back down with Him to Mt of Olives? wadr, that's goofy.

As goofy as Acts 1:11-12 describes.

Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.” Then they returned to Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is near Jerusalem, a Sabbath day’s journey.

 

[Lovette]

WHy do want to hijack my thread and disrupt the flow of conversation with calling names and disparaging people? Do you get some sort of thrill from it?

Why come here and tempt me to believe your nonsense? I reject it.

"Nonsense" is yours and others as long as post-trib resurrection is ignored.

 

[Lovette]

It's not teleportation, I'll tell you that. It's called Translation and anyone who reads scripture knows this.

Anyone who reads scripture knows the scripture should be interpreted by itself, not man made doctrines and philosophies.

 

[Lovette]

So we...go up and meet Jesus in the air and then come right back down with Him to Mt of Olives? wadr, that's goofy.

Also as goofy as Zech. 14:1-4, says specifically that the Lord will land on the Mount of Olives, exactly where he ascended.

Behold, the day of the Lord is coming,
And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
The city shall be taken,
The houses rifled,
And the women ravished.
Half of the city shall go into captivity,
But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Then the Lord will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives,
Which faces Jerusalem on the east.
And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two,
From east to west,
Making a very large valley;
Half of the mountain shall move toward the north
And half of it toward the south.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Also as goofy as Zech. 14:1-4, says specifically that the Lord will land on the Mount of Olives, exactly where he ascended.

Behold, the day of the Lord is coming,
And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
The city shall be taken,
The houses rifled,
And the women ravished.
Half of the city shall go into captivity,
But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Then the Lord will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives,
Which faces Jerusalem on the east.
And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two,
From east to west,
Making a very large valley;
Half of the mountain shall move toward the north
And half of it toward the south.

It's really not goofy.

It's like when friends meet at an agreed-upon spot to get together (the rapture) so once everyone is there, they go to the movies or the park, etc.

Since this is on the last day, Lord Jesus will gather us at the agreed-upon meeting spot (the air) and we all go with Him together to the main event at the Mount of Olives.


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[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

WHy do want to hijack my thread and disrupt the flow of conversation with calling names and disparaging people? Do you get some sort of thrill from it?

Why come here and tempt me to believe your nonsense? I reject it.

You reject what Jesus said?

John 6:39 "And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose none of those He has given Me, but raise them up at the last day."

If you reject what He says, what does that mean?


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[Psalm1]

Interesting. I agree that Jesus is always correct, and never made any claims to the contrary I made no doctrinal statements either. I did however, ask two serious questions, which have yet to be answered.

At what point does a pretribber throw in the towel? And will their faith endure the disappointment.

Jesus said his coming is compared to "before the flood."
Then gave the setting.
Oooops, that setting IN JESUS WORDS , is OPPOSITE you postrib rapture setting error.

Jesus himself disproved your deal.

Not only that, he said one taken, one left,
AGAIN...BEFORE THE FLOOD.

Do you agree with Jesus?
No you do not.

Then, you are unaware that because the gathering in Rev 14:14 is During the gt,
.....and you say the dead in Christ are raised after the trib, you have now placed the rapture AFTER THE LIVING GATHERED.
SMH

Then I suppose you are unaware that power is given to the AC DURING THE TRIB, and all take the mark, or die.

Are you going through the trib by taking the mark?

The bible says you take it or die.

So there is 3 things your doctrine stands against the word of God.

Your postrib rapture has no verses sir.
It is made up.
100% made up .
I will stick eith God's word.
No some emotions that despise the rapture.
You guys just hate the rapture concept and made up a rapture postrib.

Ask yourself why postribbers change the virgin parable.
That alone should bring a hundred red flags.
But they celebrate changing the bible.