Obama says UFO exists

[Citizen]

Project Bluebeam was the idea of a slightly nutty French Canadian who probably got the idea from a Startrek episode.

Some people do not know the difference between reality and fantasy. I knew someone, a heavy dope user, who seriously thought that Star Wars and such were documentaries. 50 years ago, he would have been locked up as a nut job. He was a school teacher and bass player. I knew him through church. He stayed with me for a while. The voices told him that we would be invaded like Independence Day.

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[TruthDefender]

It doesn't work that way. If you're going to claim alien tech as fact, the burden of proof is on you, not me. I'm not going to just take your word for it, and you shouldn't expect anyone to do that. Truth and facts matter.

It’s fine, doubting Thomas didn’t believe that Jesus rose from the dead either, even though others had seen Him. Some people can’t handle Truths outside of their construct.

 

[Brasspen]

But the Lochness Monster is real! Do not cast doubts on Nessie!!

One reason for stories like the lockness monster, is to turn people away from the faith of Jesus Christ. They are able to say, see, it's all fake, just like Jesus. Jesus is just like Santa Claus.

 

[Charlesiii]

One reason for stories like the lockness monster, is to turn people away from the faith of Jesus Christ. They are able to say, see, it's all fake, just like Jesus. Jesus is just like Santa Claus.

I doubt all those people are lying.

 

[TruthDefender]

One reason for stories like the lockness monster, is to turn people away from the faith of Jesus Christ. They are able to say, see, it's all fake, just like Jesus. Jesus is just like Santa Claus.

That’s exactly what doubting Thomases say when they don’t want to believe in things!
These kinds of people never believe in the 1000’s of eyewitness accounts, simply because it’s outside of their understanding. They would rather believe in the lie that something doesn’t exist…. Narrow focus construct

 

[TruthDefender]

https://www.texasstandard.org/stori...cap-whistleblower-david-grusch-uap-testimony/

https://www.gaia.com/series/disclosure-with-dr-steven-greer

https://drstevengreer.com/dpia/

https://drstevengreer.com/


https://www.theblackvault.com/docum...et-las-vegas-warehouse/#:~:text=“Under Mr. ,”

 

[TruthDefender]

One reason for stories like the lockness monster, is to turn people away from the faith of Jesus Christ. They are able to say, see, it's all fake, just like Jesus. Jesus is just like Santa Claus.

That has nothing to do with faith in Jesus!! lol
God created ALL things through Jesus.

 

[Citizen]

One reason for stories like the lockness monster, is to turn people away from the faith of Jesus Christ. They are able to say, see, it's all fake, just like Jesus. Jesus is just like Santa Claus.

To note: I'm not confirming Nessie as true or false. However...

...how does the potential existence of a very large aquatic creature turn anyone away from Jesus Christ? There are other descendants of prehistoric animals in existence today, like horseshoe crabs, whale sharks, komodo dragons, etc. If it's true, then it's still a creation of God. If it's false, it can be ignored. The fact is that we've not fully explored oceans, seas, and lakes. There's a whole lot of crazy stuff down there that are continually being discovered.

Personally, I think it would be AWESOME if Nessie pops her head out and proves us all wrong. How amazing to have a prehistoric descendant swimming around in a lake. But that's just me.

 

[Citizen]

It’s fine, doubting Thomas didn’t believe that Jesus rose from the dead either, even though others had seen Him. Some people can’t handle Truths outside of their construct.

Jesus rising from the dead has nothing to do with you expecting people to just take your word for something as evidence. "Trust me, bro" is not a valid argument. Berating someone for not taking your word for it is pretty lazy.

1 Jn 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Testing for truth isn't an option. It's a commandment. If you're going to state something as fact, you should be prepared to provide solid evidence rather than deflect and distract away from valid questions.

 

[TruthDefender]

Jesus rising from the dead has nothing to do with you expecting people to just take your word for something as evidence. "Trust me, bro" is not a valid argument. Berating someone for not taking your word for it is pretty lazy.

1 Jn 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Testing for truth isn't an option. It's a commandment. If you're going to state something as fact, you should be prepared to provide solid evidence rather than deflect and distract away from valid questions.

You’re right, I didn’t mean to berate people. Not everyone has this interest, so I normally keep quiet about it. However, I do take offense when people start saying things like, “What you believe in is a sin”, or “You either believe in Jesus, or you believe in fairy tales” kind of things. This is what I call narrow minded. We should never think this way! God never itemized His creation list in detail so this makes it very exciting when we discover things!!

I’m using evidences that other people have collected, government employees that have validated such things existing; there are ample proofs of UAPs and EBEs, and other things. it’s just whether or not you’re interested in listening….

 

[Citizen]

You’re right, I didn’t mean to berate people. Not everyone has this interest, so I normally keep quiet about it. However, I do take offense when people start saying things like, “What you believe in is a sin”, or “You either believe in Jesus, or you believe in fairy tales” kind of things. This is what I call narrow minded. We should never think this way! God never itemized His creation list in detail so this makes it very exciting when we discover things!!

I’m using evidences that other people have collected, government employees that have validated such things existing; there are ample proofs of UAPs and EBEs, and other things. it’s just whether or not you’re interested in listening….

A few problems -
1. These things are unidentified. It's therefore a false conclusion to assume aliens or alien technology. You need hard evidence.

2. It's totally possible that alien encounters are either fabricated or demons. It's also possible the things you are calling alien tech are inspired by demons. Read up on Jack Parsons, found of JPL. He was brilliant, but he also used satanic rituals to gain scientific and technological knowledge that was way ahead of it's time. If he was successful in the rituals, that would mean his some of his knowledge was literally demon-inspired. Fast forward to today and it's possible the same thing is being done.

I'm not saying the above as absolute fact. I'm saying they are valid possibilities. By concluding aliens and alien tech as fact, you have indeed narrowed your own mind to other possibilities.

 

[TruthDefender]

A few problems -
1. These things are unidentified. It's therefore a false conclusion to assume aliens or alien technology. You need hard evidence.

2. It's totally possible that alien encounters are either fabricated or demons. It's also possible the things you are calling alien tech are inspired by demons. Read up on Jack Parsons, found of JPL. He was brilliant, but he also used satanic rituals to gain scientific and technological knowledge that was way ahead of it's time. If he was successful in the rituals, that would mean his some of his knowledge was literally demon-inspired. Fast forward to today and it's possible the same thing is being done.

I'm not saying the above as absolute fact. I'm saying they are valid possibilities. By concluding aliens and alien tech as fact, you have indeed narrowed your own mind to other possibilities.

Aren’t demons spirit? Aliens aren’t spirit.

You would know these things, if you delved into the subject matter. Sure, there are aliens who don’t have our best interest at heart, but they’re not spirit.


https://www.gaia.com/series/disclosure-with-dr-steven-greer

https://drstevengreer.com/dpia/

https://drstevengreer.com/

https://www.theblackvault.com/docum...et-las-vegas-warehouse/#:~:text=“Under Mr. ,”

 

[Citizen]

Aren’t demons spirit? Aliens aren’t spirit.

You would know these things, if you delved into the subject matter. Sure, there are aliens who don’t have our best interest at heart, but they’re not spirit.

Please provide verifiable, solid evidence [not hearsay, secondhand info, rumor...] that aliens exist, and what they are. Thanks.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

100% agree.

if you have not heard of it, look up " project bluebeam' . it is all about creating giant holograms in the sky..

Wasn't it's purpose to wage psycho_logical warfare against Christians and Muslims?
I remember interviews with whistle blowers and researchers who said it would be used to depict Alah in the middle East and Jesus in the Christian countries.
What is this project?
It's spearheaded to be an anti-christ takeover of the world.
This is the theme of anything having to do with so called space aliens. They appear initially benevolent and eventually come out of the dark closet as devils in disguise.

 

[Brasspen]

Wasn't it's purpose to wage psycho_logical warfare against Christians and Muslims?
I remember interviews with whistle blowers and researchers who said it would be used to depict Alah in the middle East and Jesus in the Christian countries.
What is this project?
It's spearheaded to be an anti-christ takeover of the world.
This is the theme of anything having to do with so called space aliens. They appear initially benevolent and eventually come out of the dark closet as devils in disguise.

And they don't do it until it's too late going back.

 

[TruthDefender]

Please provide verifiable, solid evidence [not hearsay, secondhand info, rumor...] that aliens exist, and what they are. Thanks.

I gave u links that provide evidence that they exist. Some of these people worked in classified programs, and saw them. You just have to read and listen to the accounts. Many military branches know about them, and that they’re not from this world.

It’s only recently that classified documents have been declassified. There is a host of info here. Obviously, if one is not interested in this subject they won’t know the simplistic bites of info.

The same goes for BF.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

A few problems -
1. These things are unidentified. It's therefore a false conclusion to assume aliens or alien technology. You need hard evidence.

2. It's totally possible that alien encounters are either fabricated or demons. It's also possible the things you are calling alien tech are inspired by demons. Read up on Jack Parsons, found of JPL. He was brilliant, but he also used satanic rituals to gain scientific and technological knowledge that was way ahead of it's time. If he was successful in the rituals, that would mean his some of his knowledge was literally demon-inspired. Fast forward to today and it's possible the same thing is being done.

I'm not saying the above as absolute fact. I'm saying they are valid possibilities. By concluding aliens and alien tech as fact, you have indeed narrowed your own mind to other possibilities.

You mentioned Jet Propulsion Labs founder Jack Parsons.
I've spent too many hours reading his history and listening to the documentaries on his wicked life and business dealings. As Christians we should not be deceived by the Satanists like him and Alister Crowley who originated the modern "higher evolved being" space alien movement.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

A few problems -
1. These things are unidentified. It's therefore a false conclusion to assume aliens or alien technology. You need hard evidence.

2. It's totally possible that alien encounters are either fabricated or demons. It's also possible the things you are calling alien tech are inspired by demons. Read up on Jack Parsons, found of JPL. He was brilliant, but he also used satanic rituals to gain scientific and technological knowledge that was way ahead of it's time. If he was successful in the rituals, that would mean his some of his knowledge was literally demon-inspired. Fast forward to today and it's possible the same thing is being done.

I'm not saying the above as absolute fact. I'm saying they are valid possibilities. By concluding aliens and alien tech as fact, you have indeed narrowed your own mind to other possibilities.

You mentioned Jet Propulsion Labs founder Jack Parsons.
I've spent too many hours reading his history and listening to the documentaries on his wicked life and business dealings. As Christians we should not be deceived by the Satanists like him and Alister Crowley are often credited for the modern "higher evolved being" space alien movement.

 

[Citizen]

Wasn't it's purpose to wage psycho_logical warfare against Christians and Muslims?
I remember interviews with whistle blowers and researchers who said it would be used to depict Alah in the middle East and Jesus in the Christian countries.
What is this project?
It's spearheaded to be an anti-christ takeover of the world.
This is the theme of anything having to do with so called space aliens. They appear initially benevolent and eventually come out of the dark closet as devils in disguise.

I know people put Project Blue Beam down as conspiracy theory, which is fine, but here's how I look at it -

1. Is hologram tech quickly moving forward and progressing? Yes.
2. Can they project giant holograms in the sky right now? Yes.
2. Is it possible for a government, corporation, or organization to abuse the technology and project holograms of a spaceship, false god/false christ? Yes.

To me it doesn't matter what anyone calls it. It just matters that it's possible. The idea of tech being abused to usher in a false christ isn't impossible considering where we are technology-wise.

 

[Brasspen]

If they do something like this, it would probably be something we haven't been thinking of. Right now everyone knows these ideas, so it would get derailed easy.