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The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?
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sin is lawlessness this is what Jesus said. the ""Law"" here are the covenant , the ten commandments. Jesus said so you want all the verses again? why don't you believe what he said?
Not one of those verses say not to keep the Sabbath, in fact James 2:10-12 tells us the exact opposite quoting directly from the Ten breaking one we break them all quoting the "He who said" which is God and there is no one greater, and in doing so we have become a transgressor of the law which is a sinner 1John3:4 and not the direction we want to continue in Heb10:26-30
- Romans 3:31 - "Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law."
- This passage highlights that faith does not nullify God's law; rather, it establishes it. Paul's affirmation of God's law, including the Sabbath, shows that it remains relevant and binding.
- Romans 7:12 - "Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good."
- Here, Paul directly speaks of the holiness and goodness of God's law, indicating its continued validity.
- 1 Corinthians 7:19 - "Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters."
- This verse underscores the importance of keeping God's commandments, which would include the moral law, such as the Sabbath commandment.
- Galatians 3:29 - "And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."
- This passage highlights that Gentiles who are in Christ are heirs to God's promises, which include the laws of God, reaffirming the continued relevance of the law for Gentiles, including the Sabbath.
I refer to Gal. 1:6-9 often in referring to the many "Religion of Disobedience" people here in the CC "... there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ ... let him be accursed." Gal 1:7,8 ... Which is the main characteristic of the "False Prophet" Preverting God's Gospel into a "gospel of disobedience" which ain't good news at all, but leads to perdition. Arg !
Key verses to address the issue:
- Galatians 1:6-9 – "I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed."
- In these verses, Paul is addressing the issue of a false gospel ( promoted & proclaimed by false prophets )—not a reversion to the old covenant per se. The error that Paul is correcting here is not about returning to the Old Covenant but about following a distorted version of the Gospel that mixes grace with works of the Law. Paul's strong language is directed toward those who are introducing teachings that divert from the pure Gospel of grace through faith in Jesus Christ. Reverting to the old covenant in the sense of trusting in the works of the Law (like circumcision) alongside faith in Christ is what Paul condemns here, not the acknowledgment of God's eternal covenant promises.
- Romans 9:30-32 – "What shall we say then? That Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness of faith; but Israel, pursuing the law of righteousness, has not attained to the law of righteousness. Why? Because they did not seek it by faith, but as it were, by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumbling stone."
- In these verses, Paul emphasizes that righteousness comes by faith, not by works of the Law. The failure of Israel to attain righteousness under the Old Covenant was due to their reliance on works rather than faith in Christ. This is a key distinction in understanding the transition from the Old Covenant (based on works) to the New Covenant (based on faith in Christ).
- Romans 10:1-4 – "Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is that they may be saved. For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. For they, being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes."
- Here, Paul affirms that the Old Covenant, with its laws and rituals, was not sufficient for salvation. Christ is the fulfillment of the law (Matthew 5:17), and through faith in Him, believers are justified. The New Covenant, established by Christ's sacrifice, brings the righteousness that the Old Covenant pointed to but could never fully achieve.
- 2 Corinthians 3:6-9 – "Who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away, how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious?"
- This passage contrasts the Old Covenant (the letter of the law, which brings death) with the New Covenant (the Spirit, which gives life). Paul is not rejecting the Old Covenant but highlighting that the New Covenant, through the Holy Spirit, brings true transformation and salvation, far beyond the limitations of the Old Covenant.
- The Old Covenant, as Paul shows in Romans and Corinthians, was preparatory and pointed to Christ. The New Covenant brings the full revelation of salvation through Jesus Christ.
- A person's conversion remains valid, even if they acknowledge the Old Covenant in its historical or typological sense, as long as they do not trust in it for salvation. The Gospel stands firm, and true conversion is maintained as long as a person relies on faith in Christ rather than works of the law.
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To address the statement that "Hebrews encourages Christians to enter God’s Sabbath rest by persevering faith in Christ’s atonement" (Heb. 2:14-4:11). The Book of Hebrews emphasizes both faith in Christ's atonement and obedience to God's commands, including the Sabbath.
While the focus of Hebrews is on Christ's ultimate work and the rest He offers, it also underscores the importance of responding to that rest through faith and obedience.
Here’s an explanation with the relevant Bible verses from Hebrews 2:14-4:11, showing how they both point to faith in Christ’s atonement and encourage obedience to God's Sabbath:
1. Hebrews 2:14-15 – "Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, and release those who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage."
- These verses emphasize Christ's victory over death and Satan, which secures freedom for believers. Christ’s atoning sacrifice is the foundation of the Sabbath rest, as His work of salvation provides the opportunity to enter into spiritual rest through faith.
2. Hebrews 3:7-11 – "Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says: 'Today, if you will hear His voice, Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion, In the day of trial in the wilderness, Where your fathers tested Me; They tried Me, though they saw My works. For forty years I was grieved with that generation, And said, ‘It is a people who go astray in their hearts, And they do not know My ways.’ So I swore in My wrath, ‘They shall not enter My rest.’"
- This passage refers to the Sabbath rest as something God offers but which requires faith and obedience. The rebellion in the wilderness illustrates that unbelief and disobedience prevent entry into God’s rest. Hebrews draws a parallel to the spiritual rest offered through Christ, which must be embraced by faith.
3. Hebrews 4:1-2 – *"Therefore, since a promise remains of entering His rest, let us fear lest any of you seem to have come short of it. For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in those who heard
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Spiritual Rest in Jesus
The spiritual rest that Hebrews speaks of is a rest from striving in our own efforts and trusting in Christ’s finished work of salvation. The Israelites' failure to enter God's rest was a result of their unbelief and disobedience (Hebrews 3:7-11). This historical example points to a spiritual rest in Christ, which is made available to believers through faith in His atonement. It is not about physical rest, but rather a spiritual peace and security found in trusting Christ and His promises.- Hebrews 3:12-13 warns that unbelief and disobedience to God’s word hardens our hearts and keeps us from experiencing this spiritual rest. To experience God’s rest, we must accept Christ by faith and live in obedience to His commands.
- Hebrews 4:1-3 shows that the Gospel brings this rest, but it must be mixed with faith for it to benefit us. This spiritual rest is linked to believing in Christ’s atonement, which frees us from the burden of sin and self-effort, and leads to true peace.
Spiritual Rest Evident in Obedience, Including the Sabbath
This spiritual rest in Jesus is not a mere theoretical concept but is shown in how we live out our faith. The physical Sabbath rest is one of the key commandments that illustrates our spiritual rest in Christ.- Christ's rest through His finished work calls us to cease from our own works, just as He did at creation and after His work of salvation on the cross (Genesis 2:2-3, Hebrews 4:9-10). The physical Sabbath serves as a sign of our spiritual rest and faithfulness to God, symbolizing our trust in God's provision and His completed work.
- Hebrews 4:9-10 connects the Sabbath rest with this spiritual reality: "There remains therefore a rest for the people of God. For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His." This passage reinforces the idea that just as God ceased from His work at creation, believers also cease from their own efforts to achieve righteousness, trusting in Christ alone.
- Obedience to the Fourth Commandment, which requires keeping the seventh-day Sabbath, is a sign of our faith and obedience to God’s word, acknowledging the finished work of Christ. Keeping the Sabbath is an outward expression of spiritual rest—a rest that acknowledges that salvation and righteousness come from God alone, not through our own works.
Spiritual Rest in Jesus and Sabbath Obedience
In conclusion, spiritual rest in Jesus is deeply connected to our obedience to God’s commandments, including the seventh-day Sabbath. This rest is a result of our faith in Christ’s atonement, where we cease from our own works and trust in His completed work. The Sabbath rest, as taught in Hebrews, is a symbol of the spiritual rest we have in Christ and an act of obedience to God’s law. Thus, keeping the Sabbath is not only an acknowledgment of God’s creation and salvation, but also a way to enter into the spiritual rest He offers through faith in Christ and obedience to His commandments.
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uh huh. And when or where did I say those verses say do not keep the Sabbath? Perhaps try to read with understanding.
You don't say anything about the verses though. Is the Sabbath like a one trick pony for you?
We have no photographic pictures of Jesus, silly ~!!
We have Scripture as a "picture" of The Character of Christ & His Righteousness !
WE ARE NOT Judged by the color of our skin, but by the color of our hearts, spiritually.
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You are not convincing. You know, you cannot hide from God at all...why do you seem to think you can do so for awhile?
And how's your day of rest treating you? Can't be too interesting or you would not be here trying to be smarter than everyone else
sigh....right back to your 10 commandments are the covenant; perhaps for you they are, but for myself and other believers here, Jesus is the author of the New Covenant. That's actually in the Bible.
I don't think anyone but your SDA crowd believe much of what you say anymore. ho hum. Maybe Monday, but you do need your rest so better get back to it
Amen,
This is literally spelled out for us in the Scripture. The exact warning in this passage is what people are teaching to do!
The children of Israel was promised the land full of milk and honey which is a symbol heaven on the condition, they love God with all their heart, mind and soul which means to keep God’s commandments
Deut 6:2that you may fear the Lord your God, to keep all His statutes and His commandments which I command you, you and your son and your grandson, all the days of your life, and that your days may be prolonged. 3 Therefore hear, O Israel, and be careful to observe it, that it may be well with you, and that you may multiply greatly as the Lord God of your fathers has promised you—‘a land flowing with milk and honey.’
4“Hear, O Israel The Lord our God, the Lord is one! 5. You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength.
That was the condition- keep My commandments and love the God with all your heart, mind and soul and all will be well and you will receive your inheritance a land flowing with milk and honey.
So did that happen?
Heb 3:7Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says:
“Today, if you will hear His voice,
8 Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion,
In the day of trial in the wilderness,
9 Where your fathers tested Me, tried Me,
And saw My works forty years.
10 Therefore I was angry with that generation,
And said, ‘They always go astray in their heart,
And they have not known My ways.’
11 So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest.’ ”
No, in the trial in the wilderness they hardened their hearts and rebelled against God.
What did they rebel? This is God speaking here.
Eze 20:13Yet the house of Israel rebelled against Me in the wilderness; they did not walk in My statutes; they despised My judgments,‘which, if a man does, he shall live by them’; and they greatly defiled My Sabbaths. Then I said I would pour out My fury on them in the wilderness, to consume them.
So according to God, they did not love God with all their heart mind and soul and did not keep His commandments but rebelled and God specified the Sabbath as their rebellion.
And what was the result of that rebellion.
Again this is God speaking
Eze 20:15 So I also raised My hand in an oath to them in the wilderness, that I would not bring them into the land which I had given them, ‘flowing with milk and honey,’ the glory of all lands, 16 because they despised My judgments and did not walk in My statutes, but profaned My Sabbaths; for their heart went after their idols.
They were not able to enter into God’s promised rest because of their rebellion and disobedience God and specified the reason they would not enter was because disobeyed and profaned God’s Sabbath.
So the Israelites which represented God’s people were promised an inheritance a land flowing with milk and honey on the condition they fear God, keep God’s commandments and love God with all their heart, mind and soul.
They didn’t do that they harden their hearts and rebelled and didn’t keep God’s Sabbath which God related to idolatry.
We are told in the NT not to follow in their same example of disobedience lest we also fail to enter into His rest Heb4:11
Jesus is the NT said the greatest commandments that there are no other commandments greater than these quoting OT which included the Sabbath hence the condition was loving God with all their heart and ended by not entering because they profaned the Sabbath which God related to idolatry.
Why we are called now to
Rev 14:7saying with a loud voice, “Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.”
Which is basically the same condition He gave to the children of Israel as we have to enter into our rest which came according to God with a condition
Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city
This idea we can rebel and not keep God’s commandments and He is going to love us more than everyone else in the OT, is really sadly a sad deception Rom2:11
The whole point of this, if we really love God with all our heart, mind and soul why would we want to profane God and not keep His commandments, why would we not want to live by every word that proceeds out of His mouth, why would we want to elevate man-made traditions over the commandments and Testimony of God when Jesus Himself said not to and thats the path that leads to a ditch Mat15:3-14 Mark7:7-13
It says breaking one you break them all and James only quoted and contrasted what God said in the Ten Commandments that according to God included the Sabbath. Exo20:1-17 Deut4:13. Man can try to remove this one commandment that God said Remember, but its essentially saying God made a mistake that I know better than my Maker, the LORD of the Sabbath.. It is essentially idolatry which is what God Himself related it to Eze 20:16 because its replacing the voice of God with another and whoever we obey in Scripture is who we serve Rom6:16KJV- God invited everyone to serve Him Isa56:6 - life is about choices and one day soon, ours will be sealed Rev22:11
Your prophet would call it idolatry. Many would call it hypocrisy for sure since artwork is one of the main things yall condemn the Catholics for. I’ll just call his artwork complete trash especially since he thinks a Jewish man looks Swedish.
Where in Hebrews is obedience of the OT Sabbath law commanded?
The Sabbath rest is faith in Jesus for salvation per Rom. 3:21-5:1.
The Sabbath rest is according to the commandment in the NT because God promised not to change a jot or tittle Psa89:34 Mat5:18-19 and doing so it against the clear will of God.
Luke 23:56 Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.
Luke 23:56 Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.
I pity you "So Called Follower" for not being able to understand the art works spiritual message.
You are trying to kill the messenger, because you don't like the message.
Just like Israel in the Old Testament. They rejected and killed God's prophets, because they didn't want to hear God's requiring them to be obedient.
"The natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them because they are spiritually discerned."
— 1 Corinthians 2:14 (ESV)
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I understand the message. The painting themselves are trash. Your so called prophet did condsider it idolatry. And the hypocrisy is real when sda’s condemn Catholics for the same thing. I’m not trying to kill anyone. I just don’t worship false prophets or paintings like you do. But you are correct on one thing. I don’t like satan’s message.
I know you are having a hard time understanding "spiritual discernment", as evident by your having a hard time gleaning understand of the "The Faith OF Jesus" that IS His Righteousness, which is what Hebrews is talking about. Our resting in Jesus AND HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Romans 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, ( =The righteousness of Christ = His obedience ) being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Jesus' Righteousness IS His obedience to The Father's Will, => which He did perfectly, His whole life, to be the "Lamb of God", never having been disobedient, Jesus never sinned, never broke any of the 10 Commandments of the Father's Will, including the Keeping of the Sabbath, along with all His Believers & Followers, ie disciples, ( which I am as well per Matt. 22:37 )
The Remnant Church => Rev. 14:12 " Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." ( The Faith of Jesus, to do the Father's Will, by not sinning, by keeping The Father's Commandements, including the Sabbath )
(Please pray for the Holy Spirit to give you discernment of the following scripture, ~ Hebrews, To reveal God's Will for us to obey Him)
"Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin." (Hebrews 3:12-13)
"This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them." (Hebrews 10:16)
"Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:" (Hebrews 12:14)
1 John 3:4 (KJV) "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." including the Sabbath
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I'll not be responding to you any longer .. you don't even know what "idolatry" is.
and I'll not waste any more time arguing with a "Natural man" not having spiritual discernment.. God's Truth is "folishness to you"
"Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness"
Have a Blessed Day !