The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

[pinebeach]

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The actual transgression of the Sabbath....not keeping it...was death. I don't think coming in this forum on the Sabbath is considered keeping it. Arguing with people, calling them names and what have you, is not exactly worship

Numbers 15
32Now while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day. ;And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation. 34;They put him under guard, because it had not been explained what should be done to him.

35Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” 36;So, as the Lord commanded Moses, all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him with stones, and he died.

And they think they can keep the commandments. Death is the end result there too unless you are perfect in your keeping

 

[vassal]

Not surprising, since like all SDA, none of their congregations keep their sabbaths in the first place.
ut time is runninh out
Only a few will admit that they do not command against employment/careers requiring work on their sabbath days. What they do instead is accept corban donations to defray the 'transgression'.

All modern pseudo sabbath-keepers are frauds. Many of them would have been stoned, when the 4th commandment was law in the OT.

Like the JW's, they just fill themselves up with their volumes of study for corrupting the Bible.

why does the truth scares you so much, its not too late but time is running out. Step out of the darkness and step into the Light of Jesus and listen to him, and do as he asked, only His words can save, they are eternal life.

 

[ATG]

false accusations, show me what you say here that I corrupt scripture and saying dismissed the col verses, prove it or keep silent, you guys always accuse but NEVER demonstrate because you cannot.

Reread the response to your original complaint about hearkening to Paul. Then point out any error showing your complaint about Paul is dismissing his words as irrelevant.

Meanwhile, the worst thing about your phony sabbath preaching, is that your congregation doesn't even keep your phony sabbath.

How long are your new sabbath proselytes given, to learn to start corban-donating their sabbath-day pay to your ministerial coffers?

Or, are all military, police, first reponder, professional contractor converts commanded to quit and break their career contracts immediately, else they continue profaning your sabbath days with their unholy work?

 

[pinebeach]

why does the truth scares you so much, its not too late but time is running out. Step out of the darkness and step into the Light of Jesus and listen to him, and do as he asked, only His words can save, they are eternal life.

You say you are not SDA, but you use the same tactics. You attack the person instead of responding to what others say. You are doing it here and you have done the same to me. Sabbathkeep does the same. You use the same playbook.

It seems you think just like SDA members who consult the same scriptures as do you which consistently makes their teaching erroneous....just like you.

The covenant is not the 10 commandments. That, is the antithesis of the New Testament. Should people follow you or should they follow scripture? It certainly seems you think your words are above scripture and hold authority over others who actually hold the Bible as the authoritative word of God

 

[ATG]

ATG said:
Not surprising, since like all SDA, none of their congregations keep their sabbaths in the first place.
Only a few will admit that they do not command against employment/careers requiring work on their sabbath days. What they do instead is accept corban donations to defray the 'transgression'.

why does the truth scares you so much, its not too late but time is running out.

Not surprising, since like all SDA, none of their congregations keep their sabbaths in the first place.

Only a few will admit that they do not command against employment/careers requiring work on their sabbath days. What they do instead is accept corban donations to defray the 'transgression'.

You can take all the time you want to deny this truthfully. If you keep coming back without an honest answer, then I'll just keep repeating it for you.

 

[Just_A__Follower]

1. VERIFIED EGW STATEMENTS ABOUT KELLOGG (WITH CONTEXT)​

A. She supported his role as a physician​

Here are authentic statements (paraphrase kept minimal, wording preserved where reliable):

✔ 1904 (Letter 303, 1903 / published in Manuscript Releases)​

Meaning:

• She believed Kellogg had a God-given role in medical work
• Not that everything he did was approved

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✔ 1885 (Manuscript 19, 1885)​

Again:

• Role-based language
• Not blanket endorsement

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B. She affirmed medical missionary work as the “right arm”​

This is a real EGW concept, but often misused.

✔ 1901 (Testimonies, Vol. 7, p. 59)​

Important:

• This refers to the work itself
• Not to Kellogg personally as “the right arm”

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C. She warned AGAINST elevating any one man​

This is where the viral quotes fall apart.

✔ 1899 (Letter 70, 1899)​

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✔ 1903 (Letter 300, 1903)​

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✔ 1904 (Special Testimonies, Series B, No. 2)​

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These directly contradict the claim:

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2. WHAT ABOUT THOSE SPECIFIC QUOTES YOU POSTED?​

Let’s compare:

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Claim #1:​

Reality:​

• No verified EGW source contains this wording
• Contradicted by her later warnings

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Claim #2:​

Reality:​

• No credible EGW source supports this
• Opposite of her repeated teaching:
  • Don’t follow human authority blindly
  • Test everything

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Claim #3 (partially true but altered):​

Reality:​

• TRUE: “medical missionary work = right arm”
• FALSE: tying that directly to Kellogg personally as unquestioned leader

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Important historical context​

In the 1800s:

• Many mainstream physicians promoted similar harsh “anti-masturbation” treatments
• Kellogg was not uniquely extreme for his time, though still troubling today

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4. HER LATER BREAK WITH KELLOGG (CRUCIAL)​

By 1902–1907:


She becomes very direct:

✔ 1903​

✔ 1904​

✔ 1907​

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This shows:

• Her earlier support was conditional and limited
• She ultimately rejected his leadership

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5. CLEAN SUMMARY (NO SPIN)​

✔ TRUE​

• EGW supported Kellogg as a physician and leader for a time
• She used “God-appointed” language about his role
• She promoted medical missionary work strongly

✔ ALSO TRUE​

• Kellogg promoted harmful treatments by modern standards

NOT SUPPORTED BY EVIDENCE​

• That EGW:
  • Endorsed those specific treatments
  • Declared opposing Kellogg = opposing God
  • Commanded blind obedience to him

✔ CLEAR FROM RECORD​

• She later rebuked and distanced herself from him strongly

God does not judge us based on association what would that say about Judas being one of the 12 disciple's. We were not there, no one knows the heart of EGW but God. I trust His righteous Judgment will all have to face one day soon Ecc12:13-14

As painful as it was, just for you I went to her site to give you some:

“God has specified his(Kellogg) appointed work as His physician” Ellen G White

Letters and Manuscripts — Volume 19 (1904)

m.egwwritings.org

“God is very near you(Kellogg) in your work, angels are close in attendance; then let not any feelings or any words or works of human beings overwhelm you.” Ellen G White

Manuscript Releases, vol. 11 [Nos. 851-920]

m.egwwritings.org

“The Lord has given Dr. Kellogg his work” Ellen G White

Letters and Manuscripts — Volume 13 (1898)

m.egwwritings.org

“Dr. Kellogg’s connection with God enables him to take the presence of the Holy Spirit with him into assemblies where there is generally much levity, and where many things are spoken that might better be left unsaid. The people respect the doctor’s religious principles, and show that they are somewhat under the influence of this faith. The Lord would have His people awake, and realize that Dr. Kellogg is and must be connected with God, and stand as a rock to the principles of our faith. The Lord has given him knowledge and understanding.” Ellen G White

Lt 38, 1899

m.egwwritings.org

“Students should be willing to work under Dr. Kellogg, heed his suggestions, follow his advice, go as far as possible in thought, training, and intelligent enterprise” Ellen G White

Counsels to Physicians and Medical Students

m.egwwritings.org

Her site also has a nice write up on Kellogg. Weird they decided not to mention his sadistic side. He had no problem mentioning it in his book.

Ellen G. White® Estate: Pathways of the Pioneers - John Kellogg

Ellen White Online Books; Selection of Ellen G. White's Best-Known Books - Available Here to Purchase or to Read Online, Download 10 most popular PDA Books

whiteestate.org

 

[Rob7]

I've read quite a bit of Sister White, medical advice, (eg. Ministry of Healing ), very little of Dr. Kellogg and have never heard of any such "treatment" You will have to support your slander with a verifiable quote, from EGW .. as I do, when pointing out the disobedience to God, here in these forums. SHOW ME !!

God does not judge us based on association what would that say about Judas being one of the 12 disciple's. We were not there, no one knows the heart of EGW but God. I trust His righteous Judgment will all have to face one day soon Ecc12:13-14

This information about Dr. Kellogg is NEWS to me ... I knew that EGW supported his earlier health work and recommended his building the sanitarium in Battle Creek, and knew they had a falling out, where Sister White chastised him by letters, which I've read a couple.
Very interesting Pinebeach, but "You will have to support your slander of EGW with a verifiable quote from EGW. Not quotes from some other person, silly !

It's like me acknowledging Christlike characteristics, in these doctors, mutilating children's genitals TODAY and claiming to be Christian and following Christ. I don't know Kellogg's mind and neither do you. And calling Sister White evil, by association, is WRONG, just like you calling yourself righteous, while claiming to follow Jesus, when your fruits ( your spirit ) say otherwise. Your fruits bear witness to your un- Christ like Character. IMHO Matthew 23:29-31, 34-36

Ellen White and Dr. John Harvey Kellogg shared a long and close relationship beginning in 1876, where she initially defended him as a "pillar of strength" for the Seventh-day Adventist medical work, writing him thousands of pages of counsel. However, their relationship deteriorated into a major crisis starting in the late 1890s due to Kellogg's introduction of pantheistic teachings, which he publicly presented as "God in nature" and "God in man."

Go ahead and slander J.H. Kellogg all you want. That doesn't negate EGW being a messenger of God, as millions of us SDAs believe.
As I've said many times before here in the CC, you and your "church of rebellion" of disobeying God, ... hating and or ignoring God's Prophets becuz they proclaim & promote obedience & loyalty to God. ( As the Pharisees ignored the prophets, condemning Jesus )

Read EGW's medical advice, (eg. Ministry of Healing , The Health Reformer, or Child Guidance ) I have read much of these
... and NO WHERE, is EGW ever unloving, abusive or promoting the suffering of anyone. Because that would be un-Christlike !

You are on quite the rampage to discredit the messenger because you don't like the message from God, as did the Pharisees.

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[Just_A__Follower]

This information about Dr. Kellogg is NEWS to me ... I knew that EGW supported his earlier health work and recommended his building the sanitarium in Battle Creek, and knew they had a falling out, where Sister White chastised him by letters, which I've read a couple.
Very interesting Pinebeach, but "You will have to support your slander of EGW with a verifiable quote from EGW. Not quotes from some other person, silly !

It's like me acknowledging Christlike characteristics, in these doctors, mutilating children's genitals TODAY and claiming to be Christian and following Christ. I don't know Kellogg's mind and neither do you. And calling Sister White evil, by association, is WRONG, just like you calling yourself righteous, while claiming to follow Jesus, when your fruits ( your spirit ) say otherwise. Your fruits bear witness to your un- Christ like Character. IMHO Matthew 23:29-31, 34-36

Go ahead and slander J.H. Kellogg all you want. That doesn't negate EGW being a messenger of God, as millions of us SDAs believe.
As I've said many times before here in the CC, you and your "church of rebellion" of disobeying God, ... hating and or ignoring God's Prophets becuz they proclaim & promote obedience & loyalty to God. ( As the Pharisees ignored the prophets, condemning Jesus )

Read EGW's medical advice, (eg. Ministry of Healing , The Health Reformer, or Child Guidance ) I have read much of these
... and NO WHERE, is EGW ever unloving, abusive or promoting the suffering of anyone. Because that would be un-Christlike !

You are on quite the rampage to discredit the messenger because you don't like the message from God, as did the Pharisees.

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Anyone who read kelloggs book was aware of how he treated children. It was a bestseller and even translated into other languages for international sells. I can assure you that ellen was aware of it. All the “great and wonderful” things she said about him was years after his book was published. She only broke off her friendship with him because he challenged her theology. And as far as her medical advice, she had zero background in nutrition or medicine. Most of all her advice was stolen ideas and plagiarism. You are too blinded to see it. Cult members never see their leader’s flaws.

 

[vassal]

Reread the response to your original complaint about hearkening to Paul. Then point out any error showing your complaint about Paul is dismissing his words as irrelevant.

Meanwhile, the worst thing about your phony sabbath preaching, is that your congregation doesn't even keep your phony sabbath.

How long are your new sabbath proselytes given, to learn to start corban-donating their sabbath-day pay to your ministerial coffers?

Or, are all military, police, first reponder, professional contractor converts commanded to quit and break their career contracts immediately, else they continue profaning your sabbath days with their unholy work?

no, show me, too many messages. About the sabbath, Remember exodus 16:2829! I ask the same question how long before you do God's will?

 

[Qt]

Well I will say your consistency in error and taking verses out of context shows how dependable you are.

All you do is talk about people. Go back and read the last couple posts of yours. Your fruits are showing and they ain’t good.

 

[vassal]

No sin, because Jesus is Lord of the Torah and commanded the Gospel that superseded it,
It is sad your brain-washing does not allow you to understand that truth.
Perhaps God understands and will cut you some slack,

A question, where did you get this from""No sin, because Jesus is Lord of the Torah and commanded the Gospel that superseded it,"" can you explain, any verses?

 

[pinebeach]

This information about Dr. Kellogg is NEWS to me ... I knew that EGW supported his earlier health work and recommended his building the sanitarium in Battle Creek, and knew they had a falling out, where Sister White chastised him by letters, which I've read a couple.
Very interesting Pinebeach, but "You will have to support your slander of EGW with a verifiable quote from EGW. Not quotes from some other person, silly !

It's like me acknowledging Christlike characteristics, in these doctors, mutilating children's genitals TODAY and claiming to be Christian and following Christ. I don't know Kellogg's mind and neither do you. And calling Sister White evil, by association, is WRONG, just like you calling yourself righteous, while claiming to follow Jesus, when your fruits ( your spirit ) say otherwise. Your fruits bear witness to your un- Christ like Character. IMHO Matthew 23:29-31, 34-36

Go ahead and slander J.H. Kellogg all you want. That doesn't negate EGW being a messenger of God, as millions of us SDAs believe.
As I've said many times before here in the CC, you and your "church of rebellion" of disobeying God, ... hating and or ignoring God's Prophets becuz they proclaim & promote obedience & loyalty to God. ( As the Pharisees ignored the prophets, condemning Jesus )

Read EGW's medical advice, (eg. Ministry of Healing , The Health Reformer, or Child Guidance ) I have read much of these
... and NO WHERE, is EGW ever unloving, abusive or promoting the suffering of anyone. Because that would be un-Christlike !

You are on quite the rampage to discredit the messenger because you don't like the message from God, as did the Pharisees.

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You posted the exact same thing in the other thread about White. Doubling down on false teaching does not make it right.

What a bunch of nonsense to state I don't know Kellogg's mind! If you learn about a child abuser in the news, are you going to defend that monster also?

Unbelievable.

 

[pinebeach]

“Dr. Kellogg’s connection with God enables him to take the presence of the Holy Spirit with him into assemblies where there is generally much levity, and where many things are spoken that might better be left unsaid. The people respect the doctor’s religious principles, and show that they are somewhat under the influence of this faith. The Lord would have His people awake, and realize that Dr. Kellogg is and must be connected with God, and stand as a rock to the principles of our faith. The Lord has given him knowledge and understanding.” Ellen G White

Well, he might be a rock of White's faith, but not of anything in scripture.

 

[Gideon300]

These folk won't go near Romans. Or much of the rest of the New Testament either as we all know by now. I'm not sure what they make of the Holy Spirit either or prayer since the only thing that seems to be on their minds is the law...well 613 items would take up alot of room in yr brain I guess so they shorten it to 10.

Yes, they have a loose leaf Bible. Just tear out the pages they don't like. They live in the OT and the gospels. Mostly the OT.

 

[Gideon300]

This information about Dr. Kellogg is NEWS to me ... I knew that EGW supported his earlier health work and recommended his building the sanitarium in Battle Creek, and knew they had a falling out, where Sister White chastised him by letters, which I've read a couple.
Very interesting Pinebeach, but "You will have to support your slander of EGW with a verifiable quote from EGW. Not quotes from some other person, silly !

It's like me acknowledging Christlike characteristics, in these doctors, mutilating children's genitals TODAY and claiming to be Christian and following Christ. I don't know Kellogg's mind and neither do you. And calling Sister White evil, by association, is WRONG, just like you calling yourself righteous, while claiming to follow Jesus, when your fruits ( your spirit ) say otherwise. Your fruits bear witness to your un- Christ like Character. IMHO Matthew 23:29-31, 34-36

Go ahead and slander J.H. Kellogg all you want. That doesn't negate EGW being a messenger of God, as millions of us SDAs believe.
As I've said many times before here in the CC, you and your "church of rebellion" of disobeying God, ... hating and or ignoring God's Prophets becuz they proclaim & promote obedience & loyalty to God. ( As the Pharisees ignored the prophets, condemning Jesus )

Read EGW's medical advice, (eg. Ministry of Healing , The Health Reformer, or Child Guidance ) I have read much of these
... and NO WHERE, is EGW ever unloving, abusive or promoting the suffering of anyone. Because that would be un-Christlike !

You are on quite the rampage to discredit the messenger because you don't like the message from God, as did the Pharisees.

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This link is to a vision that EGW supposedly had. It includes a statement that Satan was answering prayers offered to God in Jesus name. Satan is supposedly by the throne of God. The whole vision is a contradictory, unbiblical farce. How anyone can take Mrs White seriously is beyond me. I won't post the text as it's too long. If you have any credibility at all, you will read it and explain how the "vision" has any relation to God's Word.

Holy Place Confusion

Contradictory statements from Ellen White regarding the location of Jesus? Holy Place? Most Holy Place?

www.nonegw.org

 

[TMS]

This illustrates a point SDA members and vassal, whatever he is since he says he is not SDA, keep trying to make with regards to CHRISTIANS (believers in Christ for salvation, including all we have and are IN Him) hinting that we believe it is ok to sin.

You all know better that that. But since deception is such a large part of the SDA doctrine, you will keep on with this false narrative while pointing at the commandments that tell you not to create false witness against your neighbor. Jesus told us who are neighbors are.

That's what it comes down to.

What is sin?
If transgression of the law is sin, (which I believe). Then the loving thing to do for your neighbour is to tell them.

You can tell people they are saved in sin and ignore the sins that you see people doing. Or you can lovingly tell them to repent for the hour of His judgment is near.

I would much prefer my neighbour to tell the truth. Rather then tell me I'm saved in sin and don't need to repent..

Believing your saved does not necessarily mean you are.


Mat 7:21-23
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Ye that work INIQUITY.
If iniquity is the transgression of the law then we should be encouraging people to keep the commandments. Jesus and the Holy Spirit can't help those that refuse to listen.

Noah lovingly told people a flood was coming but Jesus did not force them to listen.

 

[Qt]

Yes, they have a loose leaf Bible. Just tear out the pages they don't like. They live in the OT and the gospels. Mostly the OT.

. Most of our lessons we do for Sabbath are based in the NT. It is Sad that you were miss informed.
I would hate to think you are making things up.

There is an archive located here: www.sabbath.school

Maybe next time do some research before you post things. Bearing a false witness is not of God

Take care

Heb 4:8
For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

The 7th day of rest was not a Sabbath in the beginning,

Yes it was, God sabbathed on the Seventh Day of creation. The word rest in Gen 2:2 in the KJV is translated from the Hebrew word which we get the word for Sabbath. It means to cease and is literally pronounced shabath. please take a look at the definitions provided below from the BDB lexicon. Please note how similar they are.

Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

שָׁבַת
shâbath
BDB Definition:
1) to cease, desist, rest
1a) (Qal)
1a1) to cease
1a2) to rest, desist (from labour)
1b) (Niphal) to cease
1c) (Hiphil)
1c1) to cause to cease, put an end to
1c2) to exterminate, destroy
1c3) to cause to desist from
1c4) to remove
1c5) to cause to fail
2) (Qal) to keep or observe the sabbath
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: a primitive root


שַׁבָּת
shabbâth
BDB Definition:
1) Sabbath
1a) sabbath
1b) day of atonement
1c) sabbath year
1d) week
1e) produce (in sabbath year)
Part of Speech: noun feminine or masculine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: intensive from H7673

Will post on the rest of your post as our God allows.

Take care

 

[TMS]

But but but! That is exactly what you and your false Ellen White doctrine do! You teach that going to church on Sunday is the mark of the beast. So how many millions are you condemning?

Integrity. Get some.

If Sunday is the mark of the beast then do you believe it is important to tell people. ??

I know you don't believe, but I do, and we are told to give a loud cry to the whole world.

I can listen to you or I can obey God.

Act 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

Rev 14:9-10
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

Isa 58:1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.

 

[Rob7]

Ellen also considered sex to be dirty and said women must avoid doing anything to 'seduce' their husbands (although how you seduce someone you have perfect legal right to do that with, if you are so iniclined, is bizarre). So, why did she even get married? The insane teachings of this obviously not quite right in the head woman are to be kicked out with the empty cans of your dogs food)

Okay ! Now you are getting somewhere other than "Guilt by association" with Kellogg.. you are making "some truth" progress.
Now you need to show the audience a referenced quote, to substantiate your allegations. I have read ALOT of EGW and have never read anything such as you are claiming.

She wrote over 25 million word, of enlightenment of God's Word, councils for The Righteousness of Christ, inspired by the Holy Spirit and I can't image the Holy Spirit giving council for what you are claiming she said.

So ! Like you found quotes of Kellogg, .... SHOW ME !!, EGW's comment of "sex to be dirty" .. cuz I DON"T BELIEVE YOU !!

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You and @Gideon300 et al, are trying to make EGW & ALL SDA's look evil, God judges people on the character of our individual hearts. ... Good or Evil ... Not as groups ! There are many, many Evil People in all denominations, (&SDAs) delutional and calling themselves Christians. These CC forums are a good example. You shall know them by their fruits of the Spirit. ( which leads to Obedience to God )

None of us SDA's have ever said that we are perfect, sinless, saved or uninfluenced by Satan, not even Ellen G White, being Gods Messenger.

Your Character Assassination of Ellen White, is the same as the Pharisees, character assassination of Jesus, and FOR THE SAME REASONS. You hate her revelations of Truth Jesus, and her counsels shining light on the Word of God, where we are required obedience to God, sanctification to be SAVED.

You folks hate EGW & SDA's in general (me) for showing you your love of DISOBEDIENCE & SIN, to God ( "Kill the Messenger !" )
Matt 23:29-31

The Spirit of the Roman Church hates EGW for these same reason, as it hates ALL true Protestants of her. ( eg. The RCC Jesuit order )

Satan hates EGW for helping to bring so many people to Jesus, just as Satan hates ANYONE believing and supporting Jesus. Satan is all about Kill, stealing and destroying people & their Jesus like characters of hearts,

... Just as YOU & Gideon and are trying hard to destroy EGW's character reputation ... "Kill God's Messenger ! "

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We Commandment Keepers who have the Testimony and Faith of Jesus, supporting scriptural understanding, fostering obedience to God, His righteousness, and abhorrence of sin, while many of you folks are supporting disobedience to God, unrighteousness and preference for sin by your aligning with the " Man of sin " in his promoting his "doctrines of demons". ... Those in rebellion against God’s Truth, Jesus ~~> Psalm 119:142 ""Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness (JESUS), and thy law is the truth.**""

Romans 3:21–22___"But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law,** ( in Jesus) although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it—the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction."

Revelation 19:10
"And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, 'Do not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers who rely on the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.'"_

Gal 2:20"For I through the law am dead to the law,_ (by Christ IN ME) that I might live to God. I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ lives in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me."

~~ Christ and His Righteousness ~~
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1 Timothy 4:1"Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared." ( continuing in disobedience & sinning, "kill the messenger" )

II Thessalonians 2-3
"Let no one deceive you by any means; for that day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God."

II Thessalonians 2:10_
"And with all delusion of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

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[GWH]

A question, where did you get this from""No sin, because Jesus is Lord of the Torah and commanded the Gospel that superseded it,"" can you explain, any verses?

Heb. 4:15, Rom. 10:4&9 (Torah = Law), Phil. 2:10-11, 1Cor. 8:6, Acts 2:36, Matt. 12:8, John 6:29, Rom. 3:21-5:1, Heb. 7:11-10:1.