Revolution in Iran

[JayWalker]

It's already proven

Judging by the videos and pictures sure a few hundred were killed.

The claim that 30k were killed has not been proven and is most likely just propaganda by the Iranian leaders.

Still waiting for your "proof" that 30k have been killed.

you're quibbling over the numbers to try to downplay it to run cover for the Enemy

No, I'm asking for verification and you are claiming I should just believe whatever you tell me to believe.

It's OK to admit you have no verification and you are just speculating. That's what people do now days is speculate and then get their feelings hurt if someone asks for them to prove their claims and provide verification.

It be wiser for you to just surrender, admit your error

It would be wiser for you to provide PROOF 30k have been killed but since you cannot provide proof of your claims you will apparently continue with your speculation and making a mountain out of a mole hill.

 

[cv5]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2039361355141337509

https://twitter.com/x/status/2039363416276771044

 

[cv5]

Yes, as did most churches prior to the time of the "great propaganda" in the west, good to see some maintained orthodoxy!

“Your people shall be my people, and your God my God.” (Ruth 1:16)

That is the confession of the Church.


Ruth represents Gentiles who attach themselves ***TO Israel’s Messiah***.

 

[SonJudgment]

Judging by the videos and pictures sure a few hundred were killed.

The claim that 30k were killed has not been proven and is most likely just propaganda by the Iranian leaders.

Still waiting for your "proof" that 30k have been killed.




No, I'm asking for verification and you are claiming I should just believe whatever you tell me to believe.

It's OK to admit you have no verification and you are just speculating. That's what people do now days is speculate and then get their feelings hurt if someone asks for them to prove their claims and provide verification.




It would be wiser for you to provide PROOF 30k have been killed but since you cannot provide proof of your claims you will apparently continue with your speculation and making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Well then why did you shift your position? You're making progress, now you're at least admitting the massacre happened, but like I said you're quibbling over numbers. 30,000 is the low end estimate by the way.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

The Church age corresponds to Ruth gleaning.

Israel’s national restoration corresponds to Naomi’s fullness.

Both converge in the Davidic Kingdom.

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The New Covenant has DIFFERENT ASPECTS in consideration of the "who" and the "when" of receiving it.
A Biblically supported nuance that seems to be far above the pay grade of the Biblical illiterate deniers.

These DIFFERING ASPECTS hard "hard wired" into the Biblical narrative both OT and NT.

For example the story of Ruth and Naomi and the Kinsman Redeemer.
The Kinsman marries the gentile bride Ruth, Naomi obtains her land, title, and secures her future in it.

There are many other examples of this "hard wired" codified (and actually written in code BTW) support for the future for National Israel in the New Covenant.

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The book of Book of Ruth is often taught devotionally, but it also serves as a prophetic type — illustrating the distinction between national Israel (Naomi) and a Gentile bride (Ruth) while showing how both ultimately share in covenant blessing.

Below is a structured summary along those lines.

Naomi — A Picture of National Israel
Her Condition

Famine in Bethlehem → departure from the land

Loss of husband and sons

Emptiness (“Call me Mara”)

No redeemer operating on her behalf yet

Prophetic parallel:

Israel scattered among the nations

Spiritual barrenness

Under discipline

Covenant promises dormant but not cancelled

Naomi is not replaced — she is restored.

Ruth — A Picture of the Gentile Church
Her Identity

A Moabitess (outside covenant privilege)

No legal claim to Israel’s promises

Comes purely by grace

Personally chooses Naomi’s God

“Your people shall be my people, and your God my God.”

Prophetic parallel:

The Church comes from the nations

Saved apart from land or national promise

Brought near by grace, not genealogy

Gains intimate relationship to the Redeemer

Ruth is not given Israel’s national inheritance — she is given a bride’s position.

Boaz — The Kinsman-Redeemer

Boaz redeems:

The land (Naomi’s inheritance)

The bride (Ruth)

This mirrors Christ as:

Redeemer of Israel’s covenant promises

Bridegroom of the Church

But note the nuance:

Naomi’s inheritance is land-based and covenantal

Ruth’s inheritance is relational and marital

Different spheres, same Redeemer.

How Both Fulfill the New Covenant — Differently

The New Covenant (Jeremiah 31) is made with “the house of Israel and Judah.”

In this typological reading:

Naomi (Israel)

Receives restoration to inheritance

Experiences covenant faithfulness

Ultimately rejoices when the child (Obed) is born

Ends full — not empty

This parallels:

National repentance

Regathering to land

Kingdom blessing

Davidic throne fulfilled

Ruth (Gentile Church)

Receives personal redemption now

Enters intimate union with the Redeemer

Bears fruit through grace

Is brought into the lineage of David

This parallels:

Spiritual regeneration

Union with Christ

Heavenly identity

Co-heirship through grace

The Nuanced Differences
Naomi (Israel) Ruth (Church)
Earthly inheritance Heavenly calling
National covenant Spiritual union
Land restored Bride relationship
Prophetic fulfillment in kingdom Present spiritual fulfillment
Public national redemption Personal redemptive intimacy

Both share redemption — but the purpose differs.

The Larger Prophetic Pattern

Ruth takes place “in the days when the judges ruled” — a time of chaos.

Many dispensational teachers see the pattern:

Israel in discipline (Naomi bitter).

A Gentile bride called out (Ruth).

The Redeemer revealed.

The land restored.

Joy in Bethlehem.

Davidic line secured.

In that framework:

The Church age corresponds to Ruth gleaning.

Israel’s national restoration corresponds to Naomi’s fullness.

Both converge in the Davidic Kingdom.

The Main Truth

God does not cancel promises.
He fulfills them according to their original intent.

Israel is restored as a nation.

The Church is joined as a bride.

The Redeemer secures both.

Different roles.
Different spheres.
One covenant faithfulness.
One Redeemer.

lol whose minds get deceived by this type of nonsense except the people's minds who concoct this sort of disjointed gibberish?

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

The claim that 30k were killed has not been proven and is most likely just propaganda by the Iranian leaders.

The official Iranian government death toll was something like 3000 last time I looked. That included innocent civilians killed by the protesters.

 

[sovereignminds]

U think God promised Israel land that doesn't belong to them. Just cause they are some special people or something which makes no sense. God doesn't work like that. The real reason that Israle wants to commit genocide on Palestinians is to control energy which helps them control the financial markets and in turn print more money. Control the money supply u control the power of currency. Ur letting the epstein class control ur mind and think Israel is doing God's work siding with people that are literally worse than the nazis.

 

[JayWalker]

you're at least admitting the massacre happened

I already said yes a few hundred were killed.

But you cannot and have not proven that 30k have been killed.

30,000 is the low end estimate by the way.

Which is speculation by arm chair quarterbacks such as yourself.

The official Iranian government death toll was something like 3000 last time I looked. That included innocent civilians killed by the protesters.

The regime has good reason to claim 30k have been killed as to put fear in to those that would protect against them.

I'd think whoever is out there claiming 30k have been killed are doing so on orders of the regime

U think God promised Israel land that doesn't belong to them. Just cause they are some special people or something which makes no sense. God doesn't work like that. The real reason that Israle wants to commit genocide on Palestinians is to control energy which helps them control the financial markets and in turn print more money. Control the money supply u control the power of currency. Ur letting the epstein class control ur mind and think Israel is doing God's work siding with people that are literally worse than the nazis.

The land belongs to God and He gave it to the descendants of Abraham

Those not accepting this are ignorant of what God teaches in His Word because they don't know the Lord as they are speaking for the devil.

 

[sovereignminds]

Another thing is never trust mainstream media for news. They are controlled by the crooked epsetein class and they use it to spread propoganda to support their agenda. If you want real news you'll have to go through independent media channels. Believe half of what u see and none of what u hear. I stopped watching the mainstream news except for local news a long time ago. Too many lies to count.

 

[cv5]

U think God promised Israel land that doesn't belong to them. Just cause they are some special people or something which makes no sense. God doesn't work like that.

Those with new resurrection bodies (like Daniel, David and John the Baptist) DO in fact inherit the land.
But also those of the Nation Israel who endure the Time of Jacobs trouble and REPENT and BELIEVE and RECEIVE their Messiah. They ALSO enter into the New Covenant, where they are given a new heart and new spirit. These are they who will be obedient to the Lord, never again to be dispossessed of their land their inheritance and their blessings thereof promised to Abraham.

Jer 31:31
Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

Jer 31:32
Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

Jer 31:33
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Gen 12:7
And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.

Gen 15:7
And he said unto him, I am the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it.

Gen 15:18
In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

 

[SonJudgment]

I already said yes a few hundred were killed.

But you cannot and have not proven that 30k have been killed.




Which is speculation by arm chair quarterbacks such as yourself.





The regime has good reason to claim 30k have been killed as to put fear in to those that would protect against them.

I'd think whoever is out there claiming 30k have been killed are doing so on orders of the regime




The land belongs to God and He gave it to the descendants of Abraham

Those not accepting this are ignorant of what God teaches in His Word because they don't know the Lord as they are speaking for the devil.

Oh well if we're playing really quibbling with it, sure, no one can prove 30k were killed until I put boots on the ground. Guess we better get Hegseth to call a huddle.

 

[JayWalker]

no one can prove 30k were killed

At least you admit that your speculation cannot be proven.

 

[SonJudgment]

At least you admit that your speculation cannot be proven.

Well no, I have clearly shown you how the estimates of the massacre can in fact be proven to fit your quibble. Also they're not my speculation, but nice try, it's the lower end estimate of the actual news and offical government positions. Since you were wise to pivot at least in the small way to admitting the massacre happened, which is the reason why the special miltiary operation happened, and if you're actually genuinely concerned about quibbling to that exact hard number, then I'm sure you'll full-throatedly support my speculation to send a large ground force to make inquiry and get harder data.

 

[JayWalker]

I have clearly shown you how the estimates of the massacre can in fact be proven

Yeah, that was while you were dreaming right before your alarm clock went off and it was time to wakey wakey eggs and bakey
(that's breakfast time for All Of You In Rio Linda)

You should look up "estimate" and understand that it means speculation that cannot be proven

if you're actually genuinely concerned about quibbling to that exact hard number

I really don't care how many have been whacked.

I just think it's funny that people claim somethings are true without being able to actually PROVE they are true.

This is what the gullible people do is accept speculation as though it were fact. Pretty funny stuff.

 

[SonJudgment]

Yeah, that was while you were dreaming right before your alarm clock went off and it was time to wakey wakey eggs and bakey
(that's breakfast time for All Of You In Rio Linda)

You should look up "estimate" and understand that it means speculation that cannot be proven

Well the estimates are corroborated by proofs which were provided to you. Your quibble is into the exact number. You falsely say it cannot be proven, but that's not the case. It can be proven. It's similar to your other problem where you're too lazy to do your homework or you think well if you just don't do the work that means its not there (ostrich bury head in sand dynamic). But it can be proven if I send in a bunch of ground troops, which by your logic you should support this idea too.

 

[JayWalker]

Well the estimates are corroborated by proofs which were provided to you

The proof you provided fails to prove 30k were killed.

Your proof only shows a few hundred died.

It can be proven

Well then prove 30k were killed.

I'll check back to see what you put up as "proof"

you're too lazy to do your homework

That's what people say when they are speculating and have no proof to provide.

They are just engaging in speculation celebration as though they have facts when they do not.

But it can be proven if I send in a bunch of ground troops

Now you are conflicting yourself.

Earlier you said it has been proven and now you say it will be proven at some point in the future IF ground troops are sent in

Thanks for further verifying that you have no proof and are just speculating

 

[Kroogz]

Yeah, that was while you were dreaming right before your alarm clock went off and it was time to wakey wakey eggs and bakey
(that's breakfast time for All Of You In Rio Linda)

You should look up "estimate" and understand that it means speculation that cannot be proven




I really don't care how many have been whacked.

I just think it's funny that people claim somethings are true without being able to actually PROVE they are true.

This is what the gullible people do is accept speculation as though it were fact. Pretty funny stuff.

This is an extensive early study of the massacre. At the time of the study, they had 7000+ documented protester deaths. With over 11,000 more they were working on. Iran only admitted to around 3000 protesters killed.

This report has all the names and pictures of the 7000+ documented murders. I'm sure if one was really interested in the numbers at this time, one could get up to date info.

Over 53k were arrested, and we all know what Iran does with dissenters.

30k killed is more than likely a very conservative estimate.

https://www.en-hrana.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/The-Crimson-Winter-English-version.pdf

 

[JayWalker]

This report has all the names and pictures of the 7000+ documented murders.

Still far short of the claimed 30k

 

[SonJudgment]

The proof you provided fails to prove 30k were killed.

Your proof only shows a few hundred died.




Well then prove 30k were killed.

I'll check back to see what you put up as "proof"




That's what people say when they are speculating and have no proof to provide.

They are just engaging in speculation celebration as though they have facts when they do not.




Now you are conflicting yourself.

Earlier you said it has been proven and now you say it will be proven at some point in the future IF ground troops are sent in

Thanks for further verifying that you have no proof and are just speculating

You mean the proof proves the massacre happened and that at least hundreds were killed in just towns and villages. Again remember that the massacre was nationwide and that the regime also blacked out their internet (it still is blacked out to this tday topically) specifically so they can play these little deniability games and games of lies and doubts. No contradiction at all, the massacre is proven and you shifted and pivoted, you're just rash about it but you shouldn't be it's good you at least acknowledge the massacre happened now.

Your new goalpost for me to quarterback up to is a quibble is on exact numbers, and I'm not complaining, I'll take another easy first down on your defense and advance up the field. We're already talking about thousands which you now admitted tacitly by admtiting the videos of hundreds n just the small cities and towns are genuine, and this corroborates well with the low end estimates of official mainstream media, human rights organizations ,and official government info. The quibble over the number is a moot point because once you acknowledge the truth that the massacre happened to begin with you've already tied the cult's noose.

Yet it is somewhat useful too, you maybe begrudgingly are becomign smarter and useful just by pivoting in a small way to the truth from denying the massacre to accepting th e truth but being skeptical at the quibble. You're right we shoudl get the full truth, not just for gulliblity nor for zeal, but for the sake of the truth itself is power of the vindication. I think we should get the official number and count, and for that we gotta send in boots on the ground. We should find out the full truth and make these wicked pagans and their sympaticos have to confront the truth too. Just like America marched the nazis up to the concentration camps after we won WW2 so they could never ever deny it in the future, we should do likewise to the Iranian cult and their lesser followers, praise Jesus.

 

[SonJudgment]

Still far short of the claimed 30k

Lol that's the numbers admitted by the people that conducted the massacre. First they tried to lie about it wholesale, predictable, then they admitted to 3k, then they admitted to 7k, then they in fairness couldn't admit to anymore after that as then the heroes of the age began to smite them as they deserve, praise Jesus.