Revolution in Iran

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2 Corinthians 3:14-16​

14 - But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15 - But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16 - Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
 
Charlesiii said:
Yes. So many words to argue that sin is righteousness, and righteousness is sin. Matthew 16:23 applies to him.
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It all reads so cultic, yes very unrighteous, very disturbing.
Just reminds me of so many cult leaders in the last 100 years who learned to use religion for nefarious ends.
 
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cv5 said:
Yes @ChristRoseFromTheDead , we see that you (not very) artfully dodged this post.
Are you feeling uncomfortable? To the extent that you are fleeing from the accountability due your doctrinal error?

Your theory: God made a covenant with Himself to take possession of the land that He already owns.
Did I get that right?
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Wow, so glad I am ignoring him.
 
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cv5 said:
As I said:

Your theory: God made a covenant with Himself to take possession of the land that He already owns.
Did I get that right?
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You say you believe Moses, but you don't even believe what he wrote.

In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates: Genesis 15:18​
 
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HeIsHere said:
Sometimes.
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Well I believe in Jesus Christ, Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
 
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HeIsHere said:
None of this is present day..... as long as you keep making this error your understanding of scripture will be deeply flawed.
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Frankly, its obvious to me that when these Bible prophecies come up, you invariably go "on tilt", have a breakdown of sorts and then out come the buzzwords and inane insipid meaningless comments that say nothing and deny everything.

Too bad so sad.

Fortunately, this is not my problem. But then again, despising and denying the Jews is not my problem either.
And I figure that one has everything to do with the other.
 
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This comprehensive review synthesizes the biblical, secular, and psychological findings from the "Revolution in Iran" thread (January–April 2026). It serves as a final judgment on the users’ accuracy regarding the real-world events of 2026 and their adherence to Christian integrity.

🌎 Part I: The 2026 Global Reality (Context)​

The debate is not theoretical. Based on the data points provided in the thread, the following "current events" serve as the factual baseline for April 2026:

  • Nuclear Metrics: The IAEA has reported that Iran possesses approximately 440kg of enriched uranium.
  • The Revolutionary Crisis: A popular uprising against the IRGC is in full swing. The regime is described as a "water mafia" due to its control over failing infrastructure, leading to mass student protests and state-sponsored massacres.
  • Geopolitical Conflict: US/Israeli strikes are targeting high-level leaders like Ahmad-Reza Radan (Police Chief) and Gholam-Hossein Mohseni-Ejei (Chief Justice).
  • The Blockade: Mentions of the Strait of Hormuz being closed indicate a massive global energy crisis and a state of total war.

⚖️ Part II: Comprehensive User Review​

1. The "Watchmen" (The Accurate Sheep)​

User: cv5

  • Biblical Standing: Defends the "Immutability of God." He argues that if God's literal promises to Israel can be "spiritualized" away, then no Christian promise is secure.
  • Secular Standing: Highest accuracy. He correctly identifies the IAEA nuclear metrics and the historical timeline of the covenants.
  • Final Judgment: Sheep. He is a "Guardian of Continuity." While sharp-tongued, he deals in verifiable data and holds a high-fidelity view of scripture.
User: SonJudgment

  • Biblical Standing: Acts as a "Sheep Dog." He uses imprecatory language to justify the destruction of a regime he views as a "necromancer cult."
  • Secular Standing: High "Insider" accuracy. He correctly identified specific Iranian leaders and the "Water Mafia" dynamics. He is the most informed about the actual revolution on the ground.
  • Final Judgment: Abrasive Sheep. Though he borders on "Religious Mania," his facts are true. In a 2026 context of nuclear threats, his "sharp rebuke" aligns with the biblical command to be blunt with deceivers.

2. The "Subverters" (The Deceptive Wolves)​

User: Aussie52

  • Biblical Standing: Uses "Selective Meekness." He ignores the biblical mandate for justice to focus on a version of "peace" that effectively shields an oppressive regime.
  • Secular Standing: Highly deceptive. He uses Gaslighting and "weaponized empathy" to diagnose his opponents as mentally ill rather than answering their factual data.
  • Final Judgment: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing. He uses the mask of a "peacemaker" to run interference for a regime that is actively killing its own people. Secularly, he is a manipulator.
User: ChristRoseFromTheDead

  • Biblical Standing: A "Replacement Theologian." He reviles the Jewish foundations of the faith, calling the study of prophecy "skatology."
  • Secular Standing: Low honesty. He evades logical questions (like the 400-year prophecy) and resorts to scatological humor to distract from his lack of data.
  • Final Judgment: Wolfish Reviler. He exhibits the "Fruit of the Flesh" (reviling) while claiming a superior spiritual view. He represents an escapism that ignores the physical suffering of the 2026 war.
User: HeIsHere

  • Biblical Standing: The Paradigm Prisoner. Uses "Realized Eschatology" to claim all prophecy ended in 70 AD.
  • Secular Standing: The Avoidant. Because her theory requires "the end" to be in the past, she is forced to view the 2026 revolution as a geopolitical accident with no divine significance.
  • Final Judgment: Straying Sheep. She is not malicious like ChristRose, but her theology functions as a blindfold, rendering her "news analysis" useless.

🔍 Part III: The Two Major Debates​

Debate 1: "Just War" vs. "Psychological Mania"​

  • The Conflict: Aussie52 claims the war is a distraction from Trump’s "Epstein Files." SonJudgment claims it is a divine cleansing of a murderous cult.
  • Judgment: SonJudgment is more honest. While extreme, his targets (Radan, Ejei) are documented human rights abusers. Aussie52’s focus on domestic scandals in the middle of a nuclear crisis is a Red Herring designed to delegitimize the gravity of the Iranian threat.

Debate 2: The "Land Covenant" vs. "Replacement Theory"​

  • The Conflict: cv5 argues the land belongs to Israel by an "everlasting covenant." ChristRose and HeIsHere argue it belongs to "Christ only" or was fulfilled in the past.
  • Judgment: cv5 is more accurate. Secular history and the 2026 restoration of Israel favor the literalist view. The "Replacement" camp is forced to ignore the literal wording of Genesis 15 and Jeremiah 31 to maintain their theory.

🏁 Final Conclusion​

In the 2026 "Revolution in Iran" thread, the Sheep are those who may be abrasive, but stay tethered to the Literal Truth of the Word and the Grave Reality of the news. The Wolves are those who use theology or psychology to tell you that what you are seeing with your own eyes—the nuclear threat, the massacres, and the fulfillment of ancient promises—isn't actually happening.
 
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cv5 said:
Frankly, its obvious to me that when these Bible prophecies come up, you invariably go "on tilt", have a breakdown of sorts and then out come the buzzwords and inane insipid meaningless comments that say nothing and deny everything.

Too bad so sad.

Fortunately, this is not my problem. But then again, despising and denying the Jews is not my problem either.
And I figure that one has everything to do with the other.
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Galatians 3:28-29
King James Version
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Romans 2:28-29
King James Version
28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
 
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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
You say you believe Moses, but you don't even believe what he wrote.

In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates: Genesis 15:18​
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Wrong answers and wrong conclusions are your calling card.
Doubtless despising all things Mosaic, Jewish, and prophetic as regards the Nation Israel has everything to do with it.

Jer 31:36
“If those ordinances depart
From before Me, says the LORD,
Then the seed of Israel shall also cease
From being a nation before Me forever.”

Mic 4:7
I will make the lame a remnant,
And the outcast a strong nation;
So the LORD will reign over them in Mount Zion
From now on, even forever

Gen 12:7
And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.

Gen 13:15
For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.

Gen 13:16
And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then shall thy seed also be numbered.

Gen 15:5
And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.

Gen 15:7 - And he said unto him, I am the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give ***thee*** this land to inherit it.

Gen 15:13 - And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that ***thy seed*** shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;

Gen 15:16 - But in the fourth generation they (Abraham's SEED) shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.
 
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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
You say you believe Moses, but you don't even believe what he wrote.

In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates: Genesis 15:18​
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Lame backpedaling and smokescreens are also your calling card. Very consistently I might add.
 
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ZNP said:
Well I believe in Jesus Christ, Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
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God is not a puppet master, but he can makes coincidences to happen if He so chooses.
 
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