Revolution in Iran

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You mean you have averted and / or ignored many of the words of Christ Jesus, Peter, John and Paul quite consistently so that you

could arrive

at a system which has a very thin veneer of a "conclusion" but is really a house of cards.
You have lost your case because you have not provided evidence to support it.
Sorry fake sorry.
 
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It really is game over.
Its 2 Tim 2:18 "Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some."

That chart says 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 was already fulfilled in the lifetime of that generation. Do you understand the implication of it? It would be that the resurrection has already happened, and the vast majority of the church missed it.

That is clearly incorrect. Even unbelievers will be resurrected, to a resurrection of damnation, but all Christians will be raised at the parousia, coming of the Lord
 
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It really is game over.
Its 2 Tim 2:18 "Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some."

That chart says 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 was already fulfilled in the lifetime of that generation. Do you understand the implication of it? It would be that the resurrection has already happened, and the vast majority of the church missed it.

That is clearly incorrect. Even unbelievers will be resurrected, to a resurrection of damnation, but all Christians will be raised at the parousia, coming of the Lord

Even if you see that as a future event which many do, or see another coming of Christ which many do, still way ahead of the nonsense of dispensationalism, the two groups and a gap between 69h and 70th week by far.

Dispensationalism is a political ideology wrapped up in Bible verses using a very faulty hermeneutic with Bible verses wretched out of context and randomly put together.
 
Even if you see that as a future event which many do, or see another coming of Christ which many do, still way ahead of the nonsense of dispensationalism, the two groups and a gap between 69h and 70th week by far.

Dispensationalism is a political ideology wrapped up in Bible verses using a very faulty hermeneutic with Bible verses wretched out of context and randomly put together.
Okay so you do believe in a future resurrection? Glad to hear it. I do not see a gap either I believe the weeks were fulfilled in chronology. There is only one people of God, that is made up of ethnic Israel AND the gentiles united in Christ as Ephesians 2 teaches
 
Even if you see that as a future event which many do, or see another coming of Christ which many do, still way ahead of the nonsense of dispensationalism, the two groups and a gap between 69h and 70th week by far.

Dispensationalism is a political ideology wrapped up in Bible verses using a very faulty hermeneutic with Bible verses wretched out of context and randomly put together.
On the contrary, I have proved my case as a Biblical fact beyond all refutation.
In fact thus far there has not BEEN any cogent refutation. None. Zero.

And BTW, what you offer as supposed refutation is so embarrassingly infantile that everyone should be mortified by it.
 
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On the contrary, I have proved my case as a Biblical fact beyond all refutation.
In fact thus far there has not BEEN any cogent refutation. None. Zero.

And BTW, what you offer as supposed refutation is so embarrassingly infantile that everyone should be mortified by it.

You ignore audience relevance and correct hermeneutics ..which means you have nothing but a bunch of verses interpreted in any manner you see fit, anybody can do that.
 
Okay so you do believe in a future resurrection? Glad to hear it. I do not see a gap either I believe the weeks were fulfilled in chronology. There is only one people of God, that is made up of ethnic Israel AND the gentiles united in Christ as Ephesians 2 teaches
Well, a lot of people SAY than the 70th week contiguous with the 69th.
But so far, nobody has (or can) PROVEN that that it is.

And they conveniently forget (or more likely don't know to begin with) about the Passover Pattern and the Seven Moadim, the Seven Appointed Times.

But I didn't forget and I do in fact know. Know how this all-prevailing pattern concatenates SEAMLESSLY with the foregoing.

Lucky me huh?
 
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You ignore audience relevance and correct hermeneutics ..which means you have nothing but a bunch of verses interpreted in any manner you see fit, anybody can do that.
You have trouble "interpreting" the term "UNTIL"?

No problem on my end.
 
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Perfectly acceptable interpretation that no one disputes. The things that happened to Israel in 70 AD were prophesied.

However,


Zec 12:2. Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

This did not happen in 70 AD. The only ones trembling were those in Jerusalem. However, in 2023 all those round about Israel did attack, they did lose, and Jerusalem was a cup of trembling to all the nations round about Israel, all the ethnic groups mentioned in Psalm 83, and that never happened previously in human history and if you read Psalm 83, it never happens again.

Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

This also never happened in 70 AD. In fact the first time it has ever happened is right now with this war with Iran and the Straight of Hormuz being shut down, and the oil exports being cut off.

Zec 12:6. In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem.

This was not 70 AD, to say that is absurd. But to describe what happened to Gaza like this, yes, that makes perfect sense, to describe what Israel is doing to Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houthis, and the IRGC, yes that makes sense.

Zec 12:8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.

Once again, this did not happen in 70 AD, so if some of these prophecies can be attributed to 70 AD, the others cannot but can be attributed to today.

Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

Once again, this did not happen in 70 AD, but is happening now before our eyes. In WW2 Germany sought to destroy Israel, take a look at what happened to them.

Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn

This begins with "and" which means this happens along with God seeking to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. That did not happen in 70 AD.
 
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I find it weird that the same people who want to spiritualize all the prophecies in the Bible, saying that you are horrible for saying that the destruction of Gaza could be something prophesied by God and yet these same ones have no problem saying the destruction of Jerusalem is something prophesied by God. They have no issue with atrocities happening to the Jews being a fulfillment of prophesy, but if those who were seeking to destroy Israel reap what they sow, then you are a horrible person for even suggesting that.
 
Ecclesiastes 1:9
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9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
 
Zec 12:2. Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

This did not happen in 70 AD. The only ones trembling were those in Jerusalem. However, in 2023 all those round about Israel did attack, they did lose, and Jerusalem was a cup of trembling to all the nations round about Israel, all the ethnic groups mentioned in Psalm 83, and that never happened previously in human history and if you read Psalm 83, it never happens again.

Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

This also never happened in 70 AD. In fact the first time it has ever happened is right now with this war with Iran and the Straight of Hormuz being shut down, and the oil exports being cut off.

Zec 12:6. In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem.

This was not 70 AD, to say that is absurd. But to describe what happened to Gaza like this, yes, that makes perfect sense, to describe what Israel is doing to Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houthis, and the IRGC, yes that makes sense.

Zec 12:8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.

Once again, this did not happen in 70 AD, so if some of these prophecies can be attributed to 70 AD, the others cannot but can be attributed to today.

Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

Once again, this did not happen in 70 AD, but is happening now before our eyes. In WW2 Germany sought to destroy Israel, take a look at what happened to them.

Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn

This begins with "and" which means this happens along with God seeking to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. That did not happen in 70 AD.

This happened during Antiochus IV Ephiphanes' wars on Judea
 
Perfectly acceptable interpretation that no one disputes. The things that happened to Israel in 70 AD were prophesied.

However,


Zec 12:2. Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

This did not happen in 70 AD. The only ones trembling were those in Jerusalem. However, in 2023 all those round about Israel did attack, they did lose, and Jerusalem was a cup of trembling to all the nations round about Israel, all the ethnic groups mentioned in Psalm 83, and that never happened previously in human history and if you read Psalm 83, it never happens again.

Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

This also never happened in 70 AD. In fact the first time it has ever happened is right now with this war with Iran and the Straight of Hormuz being shut down, and the oil exports being cut off.

Zec 12:6. In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem.

This was not 70 AD, to say that is absurd. But to describe what happened to Gaza like this, yes, that makes perfect sense, to describe what Israel is doing to Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houthis, and the IRGC, yes that makes sense.

Zec 12:8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.

Once again, this did not happen in 70 AD, so if some of these prophecies can be attributed to 70 AD, the others cannot but can be attributed to today.

Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

Once again, this did not happen in 70 AD, but is happening now before our eyes. In WW2 Germany sought to destroy Israel, take a look at what happened to them.

Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn

This begins with "and" which means this happens along with God seeking to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. That did not happen in 70 AD.

24 Now this is an allegory: these women are two covenants. One is from Mount Sinai, bearing children for slavery; she is Hagar.
25 Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia; she corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children.
26 But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother. (Gal. 4:24-26, RSV)

Zech. 12:2-9 is pointed at the remnant of Judah and the faithful of Jerusalem. God protected those Jews who received the gospel with a true heart and His new church or body under Christ during the siege.
 
Perfectly acceptable interpretation that no one disputes. The things that happened to Israel in 70 AD were prophesied.

However,


Zec 12:2. Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

This did not happen in 70 AD. The only ones trembling were those in Jerusalem. However, in 2023 all those round about Israel did attack, they did lose, and Jerusalem was a cup of trembling to all the nations round about Israel, all the ethnic groups mentioned in Psalm 83, and that never happened previously in human history and if you read Psalm 83, it never happens again.

Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

This also never happened in 70 AD. In fact the first time it has ever happened is right now with this war with Iran and the Straight of Hormuz being shut down, and the oil exports being cut off.

Zec 12:6. In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem.

This was not 70 AD, to say that is absurd. But to describe what happened to Gaza like this, yes, that makes perfect sense, to describe what Israel is doing to Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houthis, and the IRGC, yes that makes sense.

Zec 12:8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.

Once again, this did not happen in 70 AD, so if some of these prophecies can be attributed to 70 AD, the others cannot but can be attributed to today.

Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

Once again, this did not happen in 70 AD, but is happening now before our eyes. In WW2 Germany sought to destroy Israel, take a look at what happened to them.

Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn

This begins with "and" which means this happens along with God seeking to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. That did not happen in 70 AD.
Not to mention that absolutely nothing happened in 30AD +7 years.
37AD, 40AD, doesn't matter. It will never work.

But the main contention is the willful repudiation of the intended lessons/prophecies/insights provided by the "types".

The replacement theology crew is obsessed with kicking NAOMI/GOMER (aka the NATION ISRAEL) to the curb forevermore.
Contrarily, Jesus Messiah their Kinsman redeemer is obsessed with REDEEMING them forevermore.

How anybody could in good conscience take the wrong side of that bet is beyond me.

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Oh, and BTW, Joseph (in his role as a type of Christ) secretly weeps for his brethren, and then openly.
No Christian fails to understand these situational dynamics, one can only willfully deny them.

Gen 42:24
And he turned himself about from them, and wept; and returned to them again, and communed with them, and took from them Simeon, and bound him before their eyes.

Gen 43:30
And Joseph made haste; for his bowels did yearn upon his brother: and he sought where to weep; and he entered into his chamber, and wept there.

Gen 45:1
Then Joseph could not refrain himself before all them that stood by him; and he cried, Cause every man to go out from me. And there stood no man with him, while Joseph made himself known unto his brethren.

Gen 45:2
And he wept aloud: and the Egyptians and the house of Pharaoh heard.