Revolution in Iran
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It is covenant/promised fulfillment/ expanded theology nor a replacement nor a parenthesis .. and it is indisputable.
How can one understand the details without understanding God's promises given to Abraham in Genesis.
“for in Christ Jesus you are ALL sons of God, through faith. . . And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise” (i.e., the promise made to Abraham) (v. 28, 29).
What has that to do with the end of the times of the gentiles, the rapture of the Church, the beginning of the 70th week of Daniel, the time of Jacobs trouble, and the final redemption/resoration of the Sons of Jacob the Nation Israel that can only occur at the Second Coming of Elijah and Christ Jesus?
- 70th week of Daniel - fulfilled nearly 2000 years ago
- Time of Jacobs trouble - Fulfilled nearly 2500 years ago with the destruction of Jerusalem by the Babylonians
- The final redemption/resoration of the Sons of Jacob the Nation Israel - to be fulfilled at the resurrection when Jesus brings all Israel with him.
Let him take his victory lap so he can end this s**tshow
Can Hamas retaliate in like manner against Israeli military command personal?
No they cannot. The Israelis have vastly superior F2T2EA.
No they cannot. The Israelis have vastly superior F2T2EA.
Very good point.
We have been trying to tell you all along that there was no replacement.
God's true kingdom of Israel continues under it's rightful king Jesus, not as the other nations of the world, as God always intended.
Absolutely nothing.
Build a house on sand and you are in a weak position, build a tower on top of the house and your position is weaker still.
That was supposed to be a joke.I never made the statement regarding this present war....."just about oil."
Standard bafflegab pablum meant to deceive that ignores vasts tracts of hyper-critical Scripture that utterly ruin your preposterous pretensions.
Despite your ignorance and biblical illiteracy, this Church age will certainly end in the RAPTURE, and usher in the "AGE TO COME".
Mat 24:3 - Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”
Mat 13:39 - “The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels.
Mat 13:49 - “So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just,
Mat 13:40 - “Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age.
Mat 28:20 - “teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen
Ephesians 1:21: "[Christ is seated] far above all principality and power and might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come."
Luke 20:34-35: "Jesus answered and said to them, 'The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage. But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage...'"
Titus 2:12-13: "...teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age, looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ..."
2 Peter 3:10: "But the day of the Lord will come (YET FUTURE) as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up."
2 Thessalonians 1:7-8: "...when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God..."
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17: "For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air."
Quit embarrassing yourself. You and your cadre of Israel deniers are getting absolutely wrecked on this thread.
Which confirm that you DO adhere to replacement theology dogma. Or some kind of bizarre permutation thereof.
The virgin Bride gentile Church is NEVER referred to as a continuation of the kingdom of Israel!
You are spot on. The New Testament uses highly specific language to demonstrate that the Church is not just "Israel phase two" or a rebranded geopolitical kingdom, but an entirely distinct, unprophesied, and newly created entity.
The NT emphasizes this discontinuity primarily through two major concepts: the creation of the "One New Man" and the revelation of the "Mystery."
1. The "One New Man" (A Brand New Entity)
The strongest textual evidence for your point is found in Ephesians. Paul explains that God did not simply bring Gentiles into the existing structure of the Jewish kingdom, nor did He make Jews into Gentiles. He took the two and created a third, entirely new category.
Ephesians 2:15: "...having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace..."
The Greek word used for "new" here is kainos. In Greek, there are two words for new: neos (new in time, like a recent purchase) and kainos (new in quality or kind, completely unprecedented). The Church is kainos—a fresh creation that had never existed before.
2 Corinthians 5:17: "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation (kainos); old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." (While this applies individually, it also defines the corporate nature of the Body of Christ).
2. The "Mystery" (Hidden from the Old Testament)
If the Church were simply the continuation of the kingdom of Israel, it would have been clearly laid out in Old Testament prophecy. The OT prophets wrote extensively about the restoration of Israel, the coming of the King, and the Kingdom.
However, Paul explicitly states that the Church was completely hidden from those prophets.
Ephesians 3:3-5: "...by revelation He made known to me the mystery... which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets..."
Colossians 1:26: "...the mystery which has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now has been revealed to His saints."
In biblical Greek, a "mystery" (mysterion) is not a puzzle to be solved, but a divine secret that was entirely concealed in the past and is only now revealed. The fact that the Church—a single body composed of equal parts Jew and Gentile with no distinction—was a mysterion proves it cannot be a continuation of the prophesied Kingdom of Israel.
Key insight: The Old Testament prophets saw the Suffering Servant (Christ's first coming) and the Conquering King (Christ's second coming), but they did not see the "valley" in between. That unprophesied valley is the Church Age—a completely new creation functioning under the New Covenant.
No need to ask if you actually understand these passages. You don't. Obviously. Bummer to be you!
Gal 6:15 - For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but a new creation.
Gal 6:16 - And as many as walk according to this rule, peace and mercy be upon them, ***and*** upon the Israel of God.
Were it not so genuinely appalling, your clueless posturing might pass for amusement.
Mat 28:20 - “teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen
Your humble side does not shine through much in your posts here.
I hope that after modern "Israel" collapses we will still continue to hear from you.
