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A Defense of Calvinism as the Gospel​


Prof. David J. Engelsma

The term "Calvinism" is not the name by which we Calvinists prefer to have our faith called; nor do we prefer to call ourselves "Calvinists." Calvin was the name of a man, a great servant of God, John Calvin. He was one of the Reformers by whom the Holy Spirit reformed the Church in the 16th century. To call ourselves "Calvinists" and our faith "Calvinism" leaves the impression that we follow a man and that these beliefs are the invention of a man. In fact, these terms originally were terms of derision used by our enemies, as were also the names "Christian" and "Protestant." Therefore, from the very beginning, Calvinists called themselves "Reformed" or "Presbyterian." Thus, they deliberately distinguished themselves from the other great branch of the Protestant Reformation, the Lutheran Church, which did call itself by the name of a man (contrary to the wishes of Luther himself).

Nevertheless, "Calvinism" and "Calvinist" are useful terms, today. They are widely known, even though that be, in part, through the attack upon, and reproach of, Calvinism by its enemies. Also, the name "Calvinist" is embraced by persons and churches who are not Reformed or Presbyterian but who confess those tenets of Calvinism which they call "the doctrines of grace." "Calvinism" has come to stand for certain doctrines, a certain system of truth. We have no objection to calling these doctrines "Calvinism" as long as two things are clearly understood. First, it must be understood that not the man, John Calvin, but Holy Scripture is the source of them. Second, it must be understood that we who embrace these truths are not disciples of a man, Calvin, but are concerned exclusively to follow God's eternal Son in our flesh, Jesus Christ, exactly by confessing these doctrines.

There are different ways of viewing Calvinism. Some have discovered political implications in Calvinism, e.g., strong opposition to every form of tyranny. Others have found Calvinism important for economics. Max Weber thought to trace the spirit of capitalism to Calvinism, indeed, to Calvinism's doctrine of double predestination. We could examine Calvinism as a total world-and-life-view. It is more, much more, than a set of doctrines, and certainly much more than five points of doctrine. Like humanism or Marxism, Calvinism is a world-and-life-view with which a man takes a stand in every area of human life. Also, Calvinism involves one with the Church, the instituted Church, and is not only the personal beliefs of the individual; it is through and through ecclesiastical. With the early Church, Calvinism fervently holds that "outside the Church is no salvation."

At its heart, however, Calvinism is theology, true religion; and this means doctrine. This is how we will be viewing Calvinism, here. We limit ourselves to a consideration of Calvinism as the Gospel.

Calvinism is the Gospel. Its outstanding doctrines are simply the truths that make up the Gospel. Departure from Calvinism, therefore, is apostasy from the Gospel of God's grace in Christ. Our defence of Calvinism, then, will proceed as follows. First, we will show that Calvinism is the Gospel. This is necessary because of its detractors, who criticize it as a perversion of the Gospel. Second, we will defend it as the Gospel. In doing this, we carry out the calling that every believer has from God. Paul wrote that he was "set for the defence of the Gospel" (Philippians 1:17). I Peter 3:15 calls every believer to give an answer, an "apology" or defence, to everyone who asks us a reason for the hope that is in us. As the name indicates, Calvinism is a certain teaching associated with John Calvin; it refers to biblical doctrines that he propounded.

Calvin was a Frenchman, born in 1509 and died at 55 in 1564, who lived during the Reformation of the Church, a contemporary of Martin Luther. He was converted from Roman Catholicism early in his life, "by a sudden conversion," he tells us in his preface to his commentary on the Psalms, "since I was too obstinately devoted to the superstitions of Popery to be easily extricated from so profound an abyss of mire," and laboured on behalf of the Protestant Faith all the rest of his life. He lived and worked in Geneva, Switzerland as a pastor and theologian. His labour was prodigious. He preached almost daily; did an immense pastoral work; carried on a massive correspondence; and wrote commentaries, tracts, and other theological works. He is remembered especially for his great work on Christian theology, Institutes of the Christian Religion (which still exercises great influence, which every professing Protestant could profitably read and which every critic of Calvinism ought to have studied, if he wishes to be taken seriously), and for his commentaries on almost every book of the Bible. Calvin's Protestant contemporaries recognized his outstanding gifts, especially in theology and exposition of Scripture. They referred to him simply as "the Theologian."

Calvin's influence in all the world, already during his lifetime and ever afterwards, was tremendous. Luther, of course, stands alone, as the founder of the Protestant Reformation. But Calvin, benefiting from Luther, outstripped even Luther in influencing the Church of Christ in all the world.

In the history of the Church, Calvinism is the name for the faith of the Reformed and Presbyterian branch of the Protestant Reformation. These Churches were called "Reformed" in Germany, France, Switzerland and the Netherlands. In England, Scotland and the north of Ireland, they were called "Presbyterian." This faith was early expressed in written confessions, or creeds. Among the confessions of the Reformed Churches are the Heidelberg Catechism, the Belgic Confession of Faith and the Canons of Dordt. The great Presbyterian creeds are the Westminster Confession of Faith and the Westminster Catechisms. All of these confessions are in essential agreement.

The Reformed and Presbyterian Churches insisted that the teaching embodied in these creeds, that which is now called Calvinism, was the revelation of God in Holy Scripture. Calvinism bases itself on Scripture. It holds fully the Protestant principle of sola scriptura (Scripture alone). The doctrine of Scripture is the very foundation of Calvinism. It is a mistake, therefore, to define Calvinism apart from its belief concerning Scripture.

The Bible is the only authority in and over the Church. It is this because it is the inspired Word of God, as II Timothy 3:16 claims: "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness." As such, Scripture is the "infallible rule" (Belgic Confession 7). It may not be ignored, questioned or subjected to criticism, but must be received, believed and obeyed. This is vital for Calvinism because Calvinism teaches many things about which man complains, "These are hard sayings, who can hear them?" For Calvinism, the question is not, "will men in the 20th century like these things?" But the question is, "Does the Word of God say so?"

Calvinism is concerned to proclaim the Scriptures. The preaching of Scripture, both within the Church and outside the Church, is the central interest of Calvinism. It is false to conceive of Calvinism as a theoretical, abstruse science carried on by heady intellectuals in ivory towers. With the entire Reformation, it wanted, and wants today, to preach the Gospel, which is the power of God unto salvation to every one who believes.

Calvinism, then, can rightly be viewed as certain basic doctrines, the so-called "five points of Calvinism." But even here, a word of caution is in order. Historically, it is something of a misnomer to call these doctrines "Calvinism." On these doctrines, there was no difference between Luther and Calvin. These two leading Reformers were in agreement in their teaching on the doctrines of predestination, the depravity of the fallen man and justification by faith alone. Indeed, almost without exception, all of the Reformers embraced what we now call "Calvinism." Besides, the "five points of Calvinism," as five particular doctrines that distinguish Calvinism, originated after Calvin's death. They were formulated by a Synod of Reformed Churches in the Netherlands, in 1618-l619, the Synod of Dordt, in response to an attack on these five doctrines by a group within the Reformed Churches that were known as the Remonstrants or Arminians. This Synod set forth, confessed, explained and defended these five truths in the Canons of the Synod of Dordt. But it was Calvin who developed these truths, systematically and fully; and therefore, they came to be called by his name.


 
Joshua, Chapter 24:
15And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD,
choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

1 Deuteronomy Chapter 30:19-20

“I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: that thou mayest love the Lord thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days…”
This verse calls for a deliberate choice between life and death, blessing and cursing, emphasizing personal responsibility

3. Proverbs 16:9

“A man’s heart deviseth his way: but the Lord directeth his steps.”
This verse acknowledges human planning and decision-making while affirming God’s guiding role

4. John 7:17

“If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.”
Jesus affirms that those who choose to follow His will can discern whether His teaching is from God


5. Romans 10:9–10

“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”
This passage shows that belief and confession are personal choices with eternal consequences




8. Revelation 3:20

“Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.”
Jesus offers Himself to those who choose to respond


100 Bible Verses about Free Will (KJV) | StillFaith.com

 
Total depravity is one of the five points of Calvinism. This doctrine teaches that man, every man, is by nature sinful and evil—only and completely sinful and evil. There is in man, apart from God's grace in Christ, no good and no ability for good. By "good" is meant that which pleases God, namely, a deed that has its origin in the faith of Jesus, its standard in the Law of God and its goal in God's glory. From conception and birth, every man is guilty before God and worthy of everlasting damnation. This is man's plight because of the fall of the entire human race m Adam, as Romans 5:12-21 teaches: "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned ..." Not only is every man guilty from conception and birth, but he is also corrupt or depraved. This depravity is total. One aspect of this misery of man is the bondage, or slavery, of man's will. The will of every man, apart from the liberating grace of the Spirit of Christ, is enslaved to the Devil and to sin. It is willingly enslaved but it is enslaved. It is unable to will, desire or choose God, Christ, salvation or the good. It is not free to choose good.

It is not Calvinism, that God forces men to sin or that men sin unwillingly, but that the natural man's spiritual condition is such that he cannot think, will or do anything good. On this doctrine, Luther and Calvin were in perfect agreement. Luther, in fact, wrote a book called The Bondage of the Will in which he asserted that the fundamental issue of the Reformation, the basic difference between genuine Protestantism and Roman Catholicism, is this issue, whether the will of the natural man is bound or free. Calvinism shows itself as pure Protestantism by its confession concerning the will in the Westminster Confession of Faith:

Man, by his fall into a state of sin, hath wholly lost all ability of will to any spiritual good accompanying salvation; so as a natural man, being altogether averse from that good, and dead in sin, is not able, by his own strength, to convert himself, or to prepare himself thereunto. When God converts a sinner, and translates him into the state of grace, he freeth him from his natural bondage under sin, and by his grace alone enables him freely to will and to do that which is spiritually good ... (9:3-4).
 
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The idea that God chose you and not others can make a person feel special, but the question is if it is true. The words predestinate and elect can refer to a category that was offered to people and not them as specifically selected individuals.
 
Total depravity shows the need of Gods Grace for Salvation:

Total depravity is one of the five points of Calvinism. This doctrine teaches that man, every man, is by nature sinful and evil—only and completely sinful and evil. There is in man, apart from God's grace in Christ, no good and no ability for good. By "good" is meant that which pleases God, namely, a deed that has its origin in the faith of Jesus, its standard in the Law of God and its goal in God's glory.

Paul writes that they which are in the flesh, which all by nature, unregenerate are, cannot please God Rom 8:8

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

And Faith pleases God Heb 11:6

6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

1 John shows that believing in Christ is one of the things that is pleasing in Gods sight 1 Jn 3:22-23


22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.

23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

Now unfortunately the unregenerate, in the flesh cannot do those things that are pleasing in Gods sight like believing on the Name of His Son Jesus Christ nor love the brethren

So the need for regenerating grace !
 
Total depravity shows the need of Gods Grace for Salvation:

Total depravity is one of the five points of Calvinism. This doctrine teaches that man, every man, is by nature sinful and evil—only and completely sinful and evil. There is in man, apart from God's grace in Christ, no good and no ability for good. By "good" is meant that which pleases God, namely, a deed that has its origin in the faith of Jesus, its standard in the Law of God and its goal in God's glory.

Paul writes that they which are in the flesh, which all by nature, unregenerate are, cannot please God Rom 8:8

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

And Faith pleases God Heb 11:6

6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

1 John shows that believing in Christ is one of the things that is pleasing in Gods sight 1 Jn 3:22-23


22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.

23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

Now unfortunately the unregenerate, in the flesh cannot do those things that are pleasing in Gods sight like believing on the Name of His Son Jesus Christ nor love the brethren

So the need for regenerating grace !
They need 'prevenient grace' to free the will, so they can either accept the offer of saving grace or refuse it.
 
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They need 'prevenient grace'
False, no such thing, Thats a man made doctrine. They need grace to enliven them from the dead Eph 2:5

Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)
Grace actually quickens us. The word quicken zōopoieō :

  1. to produce alive, begat or bear living young
  2. to cause to live, make alive, give life
    1. by spiritual power to arouse and invigorate
    2. to restore to life

Without this Grace they remain dead in sin

Your false doctrine wants to bypass quickening grace, and make a counterfit grace that gives man the ability to become alive if he so wills
 
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John Calvin's TULEP theology is flawed theology, or falst teaching at worst.

Even some Calvinists today have directly modified his original teachings.

Be very careful about professing his teachings to be Biblical, because they are not, and those who profess them to be could be held accountable for anyone their beliefs lead astray.
 
Another of the five points of Calvinism is the truth of limited atonement. There is deliverance for fallen men only in Jesus Christ, God's eternal Son in our flesh. This deliverance occurred in the death of Christ on the cross. His death was atonement for sins, inasmuch as He satisfied the righteousness of God, suffering the penalty of God's wrath in our stead who deserved that wrath because of our sins. Jesus' death was efficacious; it saved! It saved everyone for whom He died. It removed, in full, the punishment of everyone in whose stead Jesus died. He atoned for some, particular men, not for all without exception His atonement was limited as regards the number of men for whom He died and whom He redeemed. They are "His people" (Matthew 1:21); His "sheep" (John 10:15: "I lay down my life for the sheep"); and "as many as (the Father) hast given (Jesus)" (John 17:2).

It is not Calvinism, that any, even one, who seeks salvation will be denied, but that the death of Jesus saved, that it was efficacious, that it was not in vain.

The Lord Jesus, by his perfect obedience and sacrifice of himself, which he through the eternal Spirit once offered up unto God, hath fully satisfied the justice of his Father; and purchased not only reconciliation, but an everlasting inheritance in the kingdom of heaven, for all those whom the Father hath given unto him. To all those for whom Christ hath purchased redemption, he doth certainly and effectually apply and communicate the same ... (Westminster Confession of Faith, Chap. VIII,V,VIII) 2
 
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Total Depravity: Humans are inherently sinful and completely unable to choose God or save themselves on their own.

We cannot save ourselves on our own for in the flesh dwells no good thing.

No person can be saved unless God intervenes in their life for the flesh will not accept the truth.

But people have acknowledged the God of Israel and worshipped Him despite them being a heathen.

King Nebuchadnezzar was a heathen king that believed in many gods and a system that engaged in sin but he acknowledged the God of Israel as the greatest God and his kingdom was blessed and they rode on eagle's wings.

Unconditional Election: God chooses (or "elects") specific individuals to be saved purely based on His own will, not because of any goodness or faith He foresees in them.

We have a choice in our salvation because His kingdom is true love.

And He is not evil to condemn people who have no choice but to reject the truth.

1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

God wants all people to be saved.

Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

1Co 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called.

If God chooses people to be saved or not saved without their choice then why is He calling people but not choosing them.

If He is calling them then He wants them to be saved but some fall short for eternal life so they are not chosen.

God does the calling and choosing on earth.

So then we have a choice in our salvation and that is because God's kingdom is true love.

When God calls a person according to their heart condition He will work in their life concerning the truth but they have to make the choice to walk through the door of truth for His kingdom is true love but they would of not got to the point to make that choice unless God intervened in their life.

Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

2Ti 3:4 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Not everybody makes that decision at the door of truth for they will not let go of the flesh and no good thing dwells in the flesh and those in the flesh cannot please God.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

If a person hold on to sin the blood of Christ cannot wash it away.

Limited Atonement: Jesus Christ’s death on the cross was specifically intended to save only the "elect," rather than all of humanity.

Joh 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Jesus takes away the sins of the world so anybody can have salvation.

Irresistible Grace: When God chooses to save someone, the Holy Spirit draws that person to Him in a way that cannot be resisted or refused.

Mar 4:14 The sower soweth the word.
Mar 4:15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.
Mar 4:16 And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness;
Mar 4:17 And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended.
Mar 4:18 And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word,
Mar 4:19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.
Mar 4:20 And these are they which are sown on good ground; such as hear the word, and receive it, and bring forth fruit, some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some an hundred.

Some people do not make it to salvation.

Perseverance of the Saints: Those whom God has elected are eternally secure and cannot lose their salvation; they will continue in faith until the end.

2Pe 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
2Pe 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
2Pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

These people were saved but they lost salvation.

Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Heb 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

These people were saved but they departed the truth for an alternate reality whether another religion, atheist, or Jesus is not Savior.

They lost salvation and cannot be saved again.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron.

This is an example that some shall depart from the faith and believe Jesus is an ascended master and not Savior the new age christianity.

Rom 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Luk 11:50 That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation.

Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God.

Predestination means God already had the plan to give mankind salvation from the foundation of the world and this salvation is to whoever wants it for God wants all people to be saved.
 
If a person hold on to sin the blood of Christ cannot wash it away.
Absolutely false. Christ blood washed us from our sins Rev 1:5

5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

This word washed is λύσαντι :

: To loose, to release, to dissolve, to break, to destroy

to release one bound by the chains of sin, ἐκ τῶν ἁμαρτιῶν, Revelation 1:5

So you have seriously undervalued the efficacy of Christs Blood !
 
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I’ve noticed that those who attack Calvinism, are usually guilty of one of three things.

One, just as the Jehovah’s Witnesses string proof texts together claiming it denies the Deity of Jesus Christ, but do not present any proof that they can properly exegete their proof texts. In like manner I find many who attack Calvinism do the same thing. It is a proof text method that is superficial and does not show why the verses they think upholds their position mean what they claim.

Two, they ramble on with their humanizing logic, coming from the mind of sinful us sinful creatures, but they do not present the scripture.

Three, they usually refuse or cannot logically deny the Calvinist’s proof texts or explain them away. Discussing a single verse itself in detail to support their view, they seem unwilling or unable to do so. Have you read those who claim "world" in John 3:16 refers to any and all persons without exception, have you read any who show evidence why they believe it means all without exception, since world has many meanings.
 
Judgmental are we? (I’ve noticed that those who attack Calvinism, are usually guilty of one of three things.)
Calvinism is a confusing set of doctrines based on the five points of Calvinism in TULIP. Calvinists are famous for complicating the Bible, for reading Bible verses in a vacuum and for reading the Bible through the filter of some proof text verses with their own preferable interpretation.

Their unfortunate theology frequently leads to contradictions such as Jesus not dying for everyone and God causing people to sin, which they often disregard by stating “God’s ways are higher than your ways” or “who are you to argue against God?“. The very first church fathers (up until close to the advent of Augustine) did not teach anything close to Calvinism which is semi-gnostic in nature. Calvinism is therefore based on the tradition of men rather than on the Bible and the understanding of the very first apostles/saints (see Jude 3)

10 common calvinist proof text arguments debunked, like


35 Bible Verses Against Calvinism - Bible Repository


Calvinism Refuted, debunked as heresy and false doctrine


19 dominos of Calvinism:

1. Let’s praise God!

2. God is Great!

3. God knows everything

4. God know the past

5. God knows the present

6. God knows the future

7. God causes everything to happen

8. Unconditional election (Predestination)

9. Man is a puppet on a string

10. Man has no freewill

11. God chose man to be sinful

12. Total Hereditary Depravity (Inherited sin)

13. Man cannot choose good

14. Irresistible grace (Direct action of the Holy Spirit in salvation)

15. God chose who will be saved and lost before creation in Genesis 1:1

16. Jesus did not die for those God chose to be destined for hell.

17. Limited Blood atonement (Jesus’ blood is only for the saved, never intended for the lost)

18. God’s saved list he wrote before creation cannot change. The saved cannot sin to be lost and the lost cannot believe or be baptized to be saved.

19. Perseverance of the saints (Once saved, always saved. Once lost, always lost)

Calvinism. So very sad, and so very unBiblical...
 
Judgmental are we? (I’ve noticed that those who attack Calvinism, are usually guilty of one of three things.)
Calvinism is a confusing set of doctrines based on the five points of Calvinism in TULIP. Calvinists are famous for complicating the Bible, for reading Bible verses in a vacuum and for reading the Bible through the filter of some proof text verses with their own preferable interpretation.

Their unfortunate theology frequently leads to contradictions such as Jesus not dying for everyone and God causing people to sin, which they often disregard by stating “God’s ways are higher than your ways” or “who are you to argue against God?“. The very first church fathers (up until close to the advent of Augustine) did not teach anything close to Calvinism which is semi-gnostic in nature. Calvinism is therefore based on the tradition of men rather than on the Bible and the understanding of the very first apostles/saints (see Jude 3)

10 common calvinist proof text arguments debunked, like


35 Bible Verses Against Calvinism - Bible Repository


Calvinism Refuted, debunked as heresy and false doctrine


19 dominos of Calvinism:

1. Let’s praise God!

2. God is Great!

3. God knows everything

4. God know the past

5. God knows the present

6. God knows the future

7. God causes everything to happen

8. Unconditional election (Predestination)

9. Man is a puppet on a string

10. Man has no freewill

11. God chose man to be sinful

12. Total Hereditary Depravity (Inherited sin)

13. Man cannot choose good

14. Irresistible grace (Direct action of the Holy Spirit in salvation)

15. God chose who will be saved and lost before creation in Genesis 1:1

16. Jesus did not die for those God chose to be destined for hell.

17. Limited Blood atonement (Jesus’ blood is only for the saved, never intended for the lost)

18. God’s saved list he wrote before creation cannot change. The saved cannot sin to be lost and the lost cannot believe or be baptized to be saved.

19. Perseverance of the saints (Once saved, always saved. Once lost, always lost)

Calvinism. So very sad, and so very unBiblical...

I appreciate the links.

It is very sad, heretical and not supported by scripture... "Perseverance of the Saints" is also the wrong framing of eternal security in Christ, the Calvinists also ruined that doctrine.

"Saved is saved" is supported and taught in scripture.
 
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I’ve noticed that those who attack Calvinism, are usually guilty of one of three things.

One, just as the Jehovah’s Witnesses string proof texts together claiming it denies the Deity of Jesus Christ, but do not present any proof that they can properly exegete their proof texts. In like manner I find many who attack Calvinism do the same thing. It is a proof text method that is superficial and does not show why the verses they think upholds their position mean what they claim.

Two, they ramble on with their humanizing logic, coming from the mind of sinful us sinful creatures, but they do not present the scripture.

Three, they usually refuse or cannot logically deny the Calvinist’s proof texts or explain them away. Discussing a single verse itself in detail to support their view, they seem unwilling or unable to do so. Have you read those who claim "world" in John 3:16 refers to any and all persons without exception, have you read any who show evidence why they believe it means all without exception, since world has many meanings.

Pretty much incorrect,

Calvinism has been completely refuted by many scholars who have successfully used context, exegesis using the Greek and the Hebrew

verbiage, however change is slow to get out to the people and those indoctrinated in the false soteriology probably will not abandon

it because it is the source of the assurance that they are members of the specially created and chosen for salvation.
 
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I’ve noticed that those who attack Calvinism, are usually guilty of one of three things.

One, just as the Jehovah’s Witnesses string proof texts together claiming it denies the Deity of Jesus Christ, but do not present any proof that they can properly exegete their proof texts. In like manner I find many who attack Calvinism do the same thing. It is a proof text method that is superficial and does not show why the verses they think upholds their position mean what they claim.

Two, they ramble on with their humanizing logic, coming from the mind of sinful us sinful creatures, but they do not present the scripture.

Three, they usually refuse or cannot logically deny the Calvinist’s proof texts or explain them away. Discussing a single verse itself in detail to support their view, they seem unwilling or unable to do so. Have you read those who claim "world" in John 3:16 refers to any and all persons without exception, have you read any who show evidence why they believe it means all without exception, since world has many meanings.
This was me. I did this even on this forum until God changed my mind on it. Instead of answering the calvinist proof texts I would just quote 2 Peter 3:9, John 3:16 adnauseum thinking that gets rid of Romans 9, Ephesians 1, John 6, Acts 13:48, the entirety of the old testament where God chose only Israel, the sacrifices were only for Israel, not for the egyptians or babylonians.

Salvation is 100% God

Well, the whole point is growing in the faith, you live and you learn.

Without a decree you cannot have prophecy, because Judas could of just decided not to betray Jesus, Cyrus' parents could of chosen to name him something else.

I still wouldnt call myself a calvinist though, too much baggage- I just call myself a Christian, SAVED BY GRACE.
 
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Judgmental are we? (I’ve noticed that those who attack Calvinism, are usually guilty of one of three things.)
Calvinism is a confusing set of doctrines based on the five points of Calvinism in TULIP. Calvinists are famous for complicating the Bible, for reading Bible verses in a vacuum and for reading the Bible through the filter of some proof text verses with their own preferable interpretation.

Their unfortunate theology frequently leads to contradictions such as Jesus not dying for everyone and God causing people to sin, which they often disregard by stating “God’s ways are higher than your ways” or “who are you to argue against God?“. The very first church fathers (up until close to the advent of Augustine) did not teach anything close to Calvinism which is semi-gnostic in nature. Calvinism is therefore based on the tradition of men rather than on the Bible and the understanding of the very first apostles/saints (see Jude 3)

10 common calvinist proof text arguments debunked, like


35 Bible Verses Against Calvinism - Bible Repository


Calvinism Refuted, debunked as heresy and false doctrine


19 dominos of Calvinism:

1. Let’s praise God!

2. God is Great!

3. God knows everything

4. God know the past

5. God knows the present

6. God knows the future

7. God causes everything to happen

8. Unconditional election (Predestination)

9. Man is a puppet on a string

10. Man has no freewill

11. God chose man to be sinful

12. Total Hereditary Depravity (Inherited sin)

13. Man cannot choose good

14. Irresistible grace (Direct action of the Holy Spirit in salvation)

15. God chose who will be saved and lost before creation in Genesis 1:1

16. Jesus did not die for those God chose to be destined for hell.

17. Limited Blood atonement (Jesus’ blood is only for the saved, never intended for the lost)

18. God’s saved list he wrote before creation cannot change. The saved cannot sin to be lost and the lost cannot believe or be baptized to be saved.

19. Perseverance of the saints (Once saved, always saved. Once lost, always lost)

Calvinism. So very sad, and so very unBiblical...
I will say you are fair in your Profile to tell what church you are a member of, just as I have my such information in my Signature. Since you are okay with links, I'll post the Wikipedia article the church of which you are a member:
 
This was me. I did this even on this forum until God changed my mind on it. Instead of answering the calvinist proof texts I would just quote 2 Peter 3:9, John 3:16 adnauseum thinking that gets rid of Romans 9, Ephesians 1, John 6, Acts 13:48, the entirety of the old testament where God chose only Israel, the sacrifices were only for Israel, not for the egyptians or babylonians.

Salvation is 100% God

Well, the whole point is growing in the faith, you live and you learn.

Without a decree you cannot have prophecy, because Judas could of just decided not to betray Jesus, Cyrus' parents could of chosen to name him something else.

I still wouldnt call myself a calvinist though, too much baggage- I just call myself a Christian, SAVED BY GRACE.
Slimsumo, I agree, salvation is solely, 100% by the grace of God. I believe it was Charles H. Spurgeon who made a statement similar to what I am going to paraphrase: "We tend to be Arminian when first saved, and then after maturing and growing grace, we see the truth of Calvinism, all of God, behind it all."

"Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure." (Phil 2:12-13, KJV)

"And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul." (Acts 16:14, KJV)
 
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