Revolution in Iran

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No, this is not the US attacking Iran, it is internal dispute among Iranians over this agreement.
Yep got that! They can’t even have peace between themselves so how can they settle on a deal? Much internal conflict.
 
Yep got that! They can’t even have peace between themselves so how can they settle on a deal? Much internal conflict.
Simple really, if you can wash off the leopards spots you can convert terrorists to be peaceful. Oh wait, the Bible says you "can't" change the leopards spots, not that you can. OK, my bad.
 
Yep got that! They can’t even have peace between themselves so how can they settle on a deal? Much internal conflict.

Simple really, if you can wash off the leopards spots you can convert terrorists to be peaceful. Oh wait, the Bible says you "can't" change the leopards spots, not that you can. OK, my bad.
I do not see you guys coming up with any better alternatives for peace.

In the meantime

D VANCE JUST EXPOSED THE MASSIVE LIE ON CNN

The media and Iranian hardliners are flooding the zone with the claim that President Trump agreed to pay Iran billions and immediately unfreeze assets. Vice President JD Vance shut it down cold: “There hasn’t been a SINGLE DOLLAR of sanctions relief or unfrozen assets!”

He called out the misreporting, saying he suspects it’s coming from certain hardliners within the Iranian system to sell it to their own people. To be very clear: Any sanctions relief is ONLY for the Iranian people — and ONLY IF they meet their obligations. And that “$300 billion”? It’s NOT coming from American taxpayers. It would come from the Gulf as investments — not U.S. tax dollars.

This is Trump negotiating from strength. No blank checks. No free money to the regime. The propaganda stops here.

Watch JD Vance destroy the fake narrative live.
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Gulf State Investments? GROK

It's potential private and state-backed investments from Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) countries — not direct US taxpayer money or unconditional grants.

thehill.com

According to JD Vance's statements (e.g., on CBS and elsewhere), any access to a reported $300 billion reconstruction fund (or similar scale of investment) for Iran would come from Gulf Arab states, conditional on Iran fully complying with the framework agreement. This includes dismantling its nuclear program, giving up enriched uranium stockpiles, accepting strict IAEA inspections, ending proxy conflicts, and reopening the Strait of Hormuz.



 
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I do not see you guys coming up with any better alternatives for peace.
All you had to do was ask.

The gospel of Jesus Christ will bring in one world government, it will bring in a thousand years of peace and prosperity. If you are looking for an alternative and you are watching CNN or Fox news you are looking in the wrong place. Jesus is building His masterpiece in the Holy of Holies, it is behind the veil and will be unveiled shortly. The stage is being set for this global revelation.

If you look at Christianity and think "that can't be it" well you are partly right. Think of the last 2,000 years as a process where the Lord Jesus has been refining ore into pure gold, silver and precious stones. What you are probably looking at when you think that "christianity can't be it" is the slag heap. Most ore is 1% or less of the silver or gold. So after melting and refining you are left with 99% slag, the stuff that the gold and silver was refined from. So the big, established religions are the slag heap while the martyrs and those excommunicated for their faith would be the refined gold product.

The best the world can come up with is a man like Donald Trump. Yes, he portrays himself as a messianic figure, a man of faith who will change the world. By all means pray for this man, but on the other hand God is going to heap up ridicule and scorn on anyone who rejected His son Jesus, or any of His prophets for people who are the most brazen and transparent liars anyone has ever witnessed. Whereas men of faith have looked for a city whose builder and maker is God, the alternative the world has is looking for a city in the image of Las Vegas built on the Meditteranean, over the grave yard of millions of Palestinians. All those who oppose God building the New Jerusalem are useful idiots supporting liars and scam artists building Atlantic City in Gaza.
 
This is why Trump/Israel needs to finish the job. No matter what they agree to it wont last very long.
Exactly. It's already clear that Mr Trump and Iran have entirely different ideas of what the supposed deal is. Iran declares that America has capitulated. Muslims around the world agree. Ordinary Iranians feel betrayed. If America's military might can't subdue Iran, what hope has an unarmed Iranian got?
 
I do not see you guys coming up with any better alternatives for peace.

In the meantime

D VANCE JUST EXPOSED THE MASSIVE LIE ON CNN

The media and Iranian hardliners are flooding the zone with the claim that President Trump agreed to pay Iran billions and immediately unfreeze assets. Vice President JD Vance shut it down cold: “There hasn’t been a SINGLE DOLLAR of sanctions relief or unfrozen assets!”

He called out the misreporting, saying he suspects it’s coming from certain hardliners within the Iranian system to sell it to their own people. To be very clear: Any sanctions relief is ONLY for the Iranian people — and ONLY IF they meet their obligations. And that “$300 billion”? It’s NOT coming from American taxpayers. It would come from the Gulf as investments — not U.S. tax dollars.

This is Trump negotiating from strength. No blank checks. No free money to the regime. The propaganda stops here.

Watch JD Vance destroy the fake narrative live.
-----------------------------------------

Gulf State Investments? GROK

It's potential private and state-backed investments from Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) countries — not direct US taxpayer money or unconditional grants.

thehill.com

According to JD Vance's statements (e.g., on CBS and elsewhere), any access to a reported $300 billion reconstruction fund (or similar scale of investment) for Iran would come from Gulf Arab states, conditional on Iran fully complying with the framework agreement. This includes dismantling its nuclear program, giving up enriched uranium stockpiles, accepting strict IAEA inspections, ending proxy conflicts, and reopening the Strait of Hormuz.



If Mr Vance is correct, and I have no reason to doubt him, there is no deal. Iran is not even in the same book, let alone the same page.
 
Exactly. It's already clear that Mr Trump and Iran have entirely different ideas of what the supposed deal is. Iran declares that America has capitulated. Muslims around the world agree. Ordinary Iranians feel betrayed. If America's military might can't subdue Iran, what hope has an unarmed Iranian got?
To be clear, the ideal that Trump has is a shiny new glass and steel gleaming city, built like Atlantic city, on the graves of millions of Palestinians, with slave labor kept in the fifteen minute servants quarters, people who live to serve the elites.
 
If Mr Vance is correct, and I have no reason to doubt him, there is no deal. Iran is not even in the same book, let alone the same page.
If one listens to Trump carefully and takes him at his word he never says he has been talking to the "leader of Iran". He doesn't even say he is talking to the crown Prince. Instead the deal he has signed is with Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, etc. over building this city in Gaza. Saudi Arabia wants to cash in by building a rail line from the East and that "ribbon" city they are building is simply a way to make merchandise off of the travelers coming by train.

They bought "Gaza", raised it to the ground, and now they are going to build Atlantic City on the graves of all the people who died there. That is his vision that he is signing people up for.
 
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If one listens to Trump carefully and takes him at his word he never says he has been talking to the "leader of Iran". He doesn't even say he is talking to the crown Prince. Instead the deal he has signed is with Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, etc. over building this city in Gaza. Saudi Arabia wants to cash in by building a rail line from the East and that "ribbon" city they are building is simply a way to make merchandise off of the travelers coming by train.

They bought "Gaza", raised it to the ground, and now they are going to build Atlantic City on the graves of all the people who died there. That is his vision that he is signing people up for.
That is quite a conspiracy that you've formed there. I am far from convinced. The Iran deal is separate from Gaza, which has gone of the radar for the time being. Gaza is actually Israeli territory. Israel is not going to accept vast numbers of its enemies constructing who knows what on its borders. No one has put their hand up to help defeat Hamas. That's the first step and its not done yet.
 
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All you had to do was ask.

The gospel of Jesus Christ will bring in one world government,
All this would not bring about peace in the current situation meaning you got nothing. You cannot build a car by making predictions from Scripture. There has to be a plan, and you have to be willing to get your hands dirty.


The best the world can come up with is a man like Donald Trump. ..... All those who oppose God building the New Jerusalem are useful idiots supporting liars and scam artists building Atlantic City in Gaza.
Useful idiots for supporting peace efforts via Trump and company, who, according to you, must be Godless and a scam artist. Classic TDS and stop the judging. Jesus also said Blessed are the peacemakers which is what Trump is attempting to do in this situation, not building in Gaza, which is a red herring.
 
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Why is that? Got anything other than opinion? Looks to me like they are on the same page with the current agreement but not for the same reasons. The same page is due to be signed Friday (?) In the meantime. Worth watching

Have you read the response from Iran?

Israel must withdraw from Lebanon. No chance.
Hamas and Hezbollah left alone to rebuild and attack Israel again. Dream on
Iran controls Hormuz. Not according to Mr Trump
Iran gets 12 billion as soon as the ink dries on the "deal"
Iran gets a rebuilding program worth $300 billion
America lifts the blockade and withdraws all military forces from the region
Iran sets the terms for how to deal with uranium
America stays out Iran's internal affairs. Sure, let them get on with nuclear weapon construction
Iran is free to keep developing ICBMs

America is not even able to force Israel to leave Lebanon. What will Mr Trump do, send in the Marines?
 


US and Iran agree deal to end war; signing expected Friday

The US and Iran have agreed a deal to end the war, which mediator Pakistan says will be signed in Switzerland this week.

By Nathan Morley

The United States and Iran have reached an agreement to end the war, a breakthrough Pakistan says will be formally signed on Friday in Switzerland, marking what mediators describe as the most credible step toward peace after months of stalled efforts and false starts.

President Donald Trump said the deal includes the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz, a key demand for Washington since the conflict began. In Tehran, the deputy foreign minister announced on state television that an agreement had been secured, while Iran’s top military leadership hailed the outcome as a victory for the country.

Pakistan, which announced late Sunday that the deal had been reached, said the agreement would halt “military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon.” Israel has not yet issued a formal response. However, on Monday, Defence Minister Israel Katz said the Israel Defence Forces intended to maintain their presence in Lebanon “without any time restraints,” signalling that Israeli operations there would continue despite the wider cease-fire framework.