Calvinism is Gospel !

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Irresistible grace, or efficacious grace, is a third of the five points of Calvinism. This doctrine refers to the actual saving of fallen men by the Holy Spirit, in applying to them the redemption accomplished on the cross. This work of salvation is wholly the work of God; it takes place by grace alone. Negatively, this means two things. First, the salvation of a man is not something that any man deserves, or makes himself worthy of, in any way. Second, salvation is not a work that man accomplishes, in whole or in part. Man does not co-operate with God in bringing about his salvation. Positively, that salvation takes place by grace alone means that salvation is freely given to men by God, merely out of His love and goodness. Also, it means that this salvation is accomplished by God's power, the Holy Spirit. He regenerates; He calls; He gives faith; He sanctifies; He glorifies. This work of saving and the power of grace by which the Holy Spirit performs this work are efficacious. In carrying out this work, the Spirit and His grace do not make a man's salvation possible, but effectually save him. It is not on the order of a mere attempt by God that depends, ultimately, on the man whom God tries to save and that may, therefore, be frustrated and come to naught; but it is on the order of a work of creation that sovereignly and unfailingly makes the man whom God is pleased to save a new creature in Jesus Christ.

It is not Calvinism, that God forces men, kicking and screaming, into heaven, but that God makes a man willing, who before was unwilling. In the Canons of Dordt, the Reformed believer describes the saving work of irresistible grace this way:

...it is evidently a supernatural work, most powerful, and at the same time most delightful, astonishing, mysterious, and ineffable; not inferior in efficacy to creation, or the resurrection from the dead... so that all in whose heart God works in this marvelous manner, are certainly, infallibly, and effectively regenerated, and do actually believe ... (III,W,12) 3
 
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The Bible mentions in many places the 'righteousness of God' in relation to the believer. It does not ever mention any righteousness of 'Christ' being imputed to the believer.
And yes, I believe in the Trinity.
If the Rightiousness of God is perfect rightiousness and that is imputed to men,, and you believe God and Jesus are One then whats the actual basis of your oppositon to the rightiousness of Jesus being imputed to men?? Was Jesus perfect and without sin, just like the Father?
 
The doctrine of the perseverance of saints, or "eternal security," as some call it, follows from the truth of irresistible grace. Not one person to whom God gives the grace of the Holy Spirit will perish, because that grace and Spirit preserve him unto the perfect salvation of the Day of Christ.

It is not Calvinism, that one may do as he pleases and still be saved, or that a saint can never fall into sin. Against the charge that the doctrine of perseverance implies that one may do as he pleases and still go to heaven, Calvinism replies that the Holy Spirit preserves us by sanctifying us, by strengthening our faith, and by giving us the gift of endurance. As for the "melancholy falls" of Christians, the saints can, and sometimes do, fall into sin, even "great and heinous sins," but the indwelling Spirit, never wholly withdrawn from them, brings them to repentance. Calvinism imparts to all true believers the inestimably precious comfort of the "certain persuasion, that they ever will continue true and living members of the church; and that they experience forgiveness of sins, and will at last inherit eternal life" (Canons of Dordt, V,9).

All of the salvation described above has its source in God's eternal election. The truth of election is another of the characteristic Calvinistic doctrines. God has from eternity elected, or chosen, in Christ, some of the fallen human race - a certain, definite number of persons - unto salvation. This choice was unconditional, gracious, and free; it was not due to anything foreseen in those who were chosen. Reprobation is implied. God did not choose all men; but He rejected some men, in the eternal decree. It makes no essential difference whether one views reprobation as God's passing by some men with His decree of election in eternity (which is, in fact, a Divine decision about their eternal destiny), or whether one views it as a positive decree that some men perish in their sin, their unbelief and disobedience. Election and reprobation make up predestination, the doctrine that God has determined the destiny of all men from eternity. This truth is regarded, not inaccurately, as the hallmark of Calvinism. The very heart of the Reformed Church is election, God's gracious choice of us sinners, guilty and depraved, worthy only of damnation, unto salvation.
 
If the Rightiousness of God is perfect rightiousness and that is imputed to men,, and you believe God and Jesus are One then whats the actual basis of your oppositon to the rightiousness of Jesus being imputed to men?? Was Jesus perfect and without sin, just like the Father?

This is how we may know we have received from God imputed righteousness in Christ.
It could not happen without it.

But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy,
made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions
—it is by grace you have been saved. And God raised us up with Christ
and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, in order
that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his
grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. Ephesians 2:4-7

We are now hidden"in Him."

In Him, just as Eve's body was in Adam before she was to be revealed as the bride of Adam!
And, we too...
We shall be bone of His bones, and glorious flesh of His Glorious Body.


But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there,
the Lord Jesus Christ, who, by the power that enables him to bring everything
under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his
glorious body. Philippians 3:20-21​


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The doctrine of the perseverance of saints, or "eternal security," as some call it, follows from the truth of irresistible grace. Not one person to whom God gives the grace of the Holy Spirit will perish, because that grace and Spirit preserve him unto the perfect salvation of the Day of Christ.

Jesus taught Jews as a rabbi. Not Christians.
Quite often, he was referred to as "rabbi."


Jesus said....

And then many will be led into sin and will betray one another and will hate one another,
and many false prophets will appear and will deceive many, and because lawlessness will
increase, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end—this person
will be saved. " Matthew 24:10-13

All that violence and betrayals?
Does that sound like he was describing the Church age?

"Those who endure to the end" (as read in its context? With all those horrible things and conflicts?

That speaks in reference to those who must endure the seven year Tribulation to the end.

For those who endure all those horrible things?
After they survive they will be saved to be alive to enter into the Millennium.

That's the context.
 
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What kinda statement is that ?
You need to learn to think in the historical context.

It was Paul was was given the mysteries for the Church.
Jesus came as a Jew, to the Jews.
He only mentioned a few things pointing to the coming church, but did not teach as one should to Christians filled with the Spirit.
Jesus was showing the religious Jewish leaders how Judaism was to be taught.
 
You need to learn to think in the historical context.

It was Paul was was given the mysteries for the Church.
Jesus came as a Jew, to the Jews.
He only mentioned a few things pointing to the coming church, but did not teach as one should to Christians filled with the Spirit.
Jesus was showing the religious Jewish leaders how Judaism was to be taught.
This is nothing but a distraction
 
This is nothing but a distraction
Yes... what you have gotten yourself wrapped up in is a distraction away from what is needed.
You are ignoring principles of Scripture in the meanwhile.

And you HATE correction.

that's a fact....

One more time...


We all need to learn to think in the historical context.

It was Paul who was given the mysteries for the Church.
Jesus came as a Jew, to the Jews.
Jesus only mentioned a few things pointing to the coming church, but did not teach as one should to Christians filled with the Spirit.
Jesus was showing the religious Jewish leaders how Judaism was to be taught.

Those who endure to the end?
Who was Jesus speaking to?
Jews?
Or who?
The Church was not yet existing!

Jesus said....

And then many will be led into sin and will betray one another and will hate one another,
and many false prophets will appear and will deceive many, and because lawlessness will
increase, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end—this person
will be saved. " Matthew 24:10-13​

Read that?
All that violence and betrayals?
Does that sound like he was describing the Church age?
No!

"Those who endure to the end" (as read in its context? With all those horrible things and conflicts?

That speaks in reference to those Jews who must endure the seven-year Tribulation to its end.
For Jesus was teaching Jews as a rabbi!

For those who endure all those horrible things?
After they survived?
They will be saved to be alive to enter into the Millennium.

That's the context.

Those who endure to the end will be saved was not written to the Church.
For the Church will not be going through the time of the great Tribulation!

Context.. context... context.
 
Yes... what you have gotten yourself wrapped up in is a distraction away from what is needed.
You are ignoring principles of Scripture in the meanwhile.

And you HATE correction.

that's a fact....

One more time...


We all need to learn to think in the historical context.

It was Paul who was given the mysteries for the Church.
Jesus came as a Jew, to the Jews.
Jesus only mentioned a few things pointing to the coming church, but did not teach as one should to Christians filled with the Spirit.
Jesus was showing the religious Jewish leaders how Judaism was to be taught.

Those who endure to the end?
Who was Jesus speaking to?
Jews?
Or who?
The Church was not yet existing!

Jesus said....

And then many will be led into sin and will betray one another and will hate one another,
and many false prophets will appear and will deceive many, and because lawlessness will
increase, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end—this person
will be saved. " Matthew 24:10-13​

Read that?
All that violence and betrayals?
Does that sound like he was describing the Church age?
No!

"Those who endure to the end" (as read in its context? With all those horrible things and conflicts?

That speaks in reference to those Jews who must endure the seven-year Tribulation to its end.
For Jesus was teaching Jews as a rabbi!

For those who endure all those horrible things?
After they survived?
They will be saved to be alive to enter into the Millennium.

That's the context.

Those who endure to the end will be saved was not written to the Church.
For the Church will not be going through the time of the great Tribulation!

Context.. context... context.
More distraction, Calvinism is the Gospel
 
Yes... what you have gotten yourself wrapped up in is a distraction away from what is needed.
You are ignoring principles of Scripture in the meanwhile.

And you HATE correction.

that's a fact....

One more time...


We all need to learn to think in the historical context.

It was Paul who was given the mysteries for the Church.
Jesus came as a Jew, to the Jews.
Jesus only mentioned a few things pointing to the coming church, but did not teach as one should to Christians filled with the Spirit.
Jesus was showing the religious Jewish leaders how Judaism was to be taught.

Those who endure to the end?
Who was Jesus speaking to?
Jews?
Or who?
The Church was not yet existing!

Jesus said....

And then many will be led into sin and will betray one another and will hate one another,
and many false prophets will appear and will deceive many, and because lawlessness will
increase, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end—this person
will be saved. " Matthew 24:10-13​

Read that?
All that violence and betrayals?
Does that sound like he was describing the Church age?
No!

"Those who endure to the end" (as read in its context? With all those horrible things and conflicts?

That speaks in reference to those Jews who must endure the seven-year Tribulation to its end.
For Jesus was teaching Jews as a rabbi!

For those who endure all those horrible things?
After they survived?
They will be saved to be alive to enter into the Millennium.

That's the context.

Those who endure to the end will be saved was not written to the Church.
For the Church will not be going through the time of the great Tribulation!

Context.. context... context.
Preach it Brother. Amen.
 
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More distraction, Calvinism is the Gospel
It is the Gospel to you. Calvinism 16:31...........Believe on the Lor.....oh wait, you cant, so what's the point.

Acts 16:31~~They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”
The Lord Jesus Christ is the Gospel to ALL.
 
It is the Gospel to you. Calvinism 16:31...........Believe on the Lor.....oh wait, you cant, so what's the point.

Acts 16:31~~They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”
The Lord Jesus Christ is the Gospel to ALL.
Yeah Tulip is still the Gospel
 
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Election is the fountain of all salvation! As such, it is the ultimate, decisive, convincing proof and guarantee that salvation is gracious - that salvation does not depend upon man, but upon God; that salvation is not man's idea, but God's; that salvation is not man's work, but God's; that salvation is not due to man's decision for God, but to God's eternal decision for man.

This is how Calvin himself viewed predestination - as the final, conclusive, incontrovertible testimony to, and guarantee of, gracious salvation. Therefore, in his definitive edition of the Institutes (1559), Calvin treated predestination at the end of Book III, after his treatment of redemption in Christ and his treatment of the application of redemption by the Holy Spirit. Calvin wrote:

We shall never feel persuaded as we ought that our salvation flows from the free mercy of God as its fountain, until we are made acquainted with His eternal election, the grace of God being illustrated by the contrast - viz, that He does not adopt promiscuously to the hope of salvation, but gives to some what He denies to others" (III,XXI,1).
This is Calvinism!

This is the Gospel!


The Gospel proclaims man's misery as total depravity, including the bondage of his will. Ephesians 2:1 diagnoses the spiritual condition of the sinner, prior to the quickening of the Spirit of Christ, thus: "dead in trespasses and sins." Spiritually dead, the sinner is lacking all good, any ability for good, and both the power and the inclination to effect a change in this condition. Himself is helpless and his condition, hopeless - the helplessness and hopelessness of death. Romans 8:7-8 passes the same judgment upon fallen man: "Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God." The "carnal mind" is human nature as it is by virtue of natural birth. Its condition is such that it is incapable of being in subjection to God's law. Those who are in the flesh are those who are not born again by the Spirit of Christ, those who are outside of Christ. Their spiritual condition is such that they are incapable of pleasing God; all that they are able to do is sin. For a sinner to will and to do of God's good pleasure, God must work in him both the willing and the doing, by the Spirit of Jesus Christ (Philippians 2:13). 4
 
Election is the fountain of all salvation! As such, it is the ultimate, decisive, convincing proof and guarantee that salvation is gracious - that salvation does not depend upon man, but upon God; that salvation is not man's idea, but God's; that salvation is not man's work, but God's; that salvation is not due to man's decision for God, but to God's eternal decision for man.

This is how Calvin himself viewed predestination - as the final, conclusive, incontrovertible testimony to, and guarantee of, gracious salvation. Therefore, in his definitive edition of the Institutes (1559), Calvin treated predestination at the end of Book III, after his treatment of redemption in Christ and his treatment of the application of redemption by the Holy Spirit. Calvin wrote:


This is Calvinism!

This is the Gospel!


The Gospel proclaims man's misery as total depravity, including the bondage of his will. Ephesians 2:1 diagnoses the spiritual condition of the sinner, prior to the quickening of the Spirit of Christ, thus: "dead in trespasses and sins." Spiritually dead, the sinner is lacking all good, any ability for good, and both the power and the inclination to effect a change in this condition. Himself is helpless and his condition, hopeless - the helplessness and hopelessness of death. Romans 8:7-8 passes the same judgment upon fallen man: "Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God." The "carnal mind" is human nature as it is by virtue of natural birth. Its condition is such that it is incapable of being in subjection to God's law. Those who are in the flesh are those who are not born again by the Spirit of Christ, those who are outside of Christ. Their spiritual condition is such that they are incapable of pleasing God; all that they are able to do is sin. For a sinner to will and to do of God's good pleasure, God must work in him both the willing and the doing, by the Spirit of Jesus Christ (Philippians 2:13). 4
You're brainwashed.

You show one maybe "plausible" answer.
But you miss the mark.
And, embrace it with the fervor of a man who has little depth, but with a deep desire to be sure about something.

Stop gaslighting us.

God the Father chose us before the foundation of the earth to be the Bride for His beloved Son.
He does not choose us to get saved.
For that destroys man's volition (which Calvinists despise)...
Instead, God has chosen what is to become of those whom He knows will believe.

For it says... He chose us *in Him.*
That's where Eve was before she was to be removed.
For she was in Adam.
She was the bride of Adam.

And, we are?
We are the Bride of Christ!
Chosen IN HIM!

Even as [in His love] He chose us [actually picked us out for Himself as His own] in Christ
before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy (consecrated and set apart for Him)
and blameless in His sight, even above reproach, before Him in love.



Ephesians 1:4
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Yes, they are part of His Body the Church ! Moses suffered for Christ Heb 11:25-26

25 Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season;

26 Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.

If every saved person is His Bride?

Then, whom is He and His Bride to reign over?

Themselves?
 
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